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Ah! Amoeba Oct 18, 2006 11:05 PM

Hurley handled being mistaken for a charging polar bear pretty well. “Dude” was all he had to say about almost being killed, and he didn’t even take offense to the implied fat joke. Way to keep your head, Hurley! =)


I thought Eddie’s “Geronimo Jackson” t-shirt was a nice touch, until Mike went and pointed it out to everyone (in the world). I agree that the flashbacks were kinda lame, but overall it was a great episode.

Hantei Oct 19, 2006 01:18 AM

Great episode! Been wondering when they were gonna show what had happend to Locke, Desmond, and Eko.

Just a question:

Spoiler:
But with the scene where Locke held up Eddie, the cop, and ended the scene with him not firing. So was it just signifying that he's not the hunter he thought he was? Or that killing wasn't a characteristic of his? Cause it wasn't really clear to me as to what that sequence was supposed to demonstrate.

rockthepartay Oct 19, 2006 06:25 AM

I'm pretty sure that it implied that he was a farmer trying to impersonate a hunter. Afterall, it wasn't until he was on the island that Locke wasn't "lost" anymore, so he finally became the hunter that he always wanted to be. I have a feeling that we haven't seen the end of this flashback, but I could be wrong.

Locke being in the wheelchair probably started his "don't tell me what I can't do" phase, so I hope we will learn more about that this season.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Oct 19, 2006 08:33 AM

Pffth, I thought this episode was pretty lame. (What else is new.)

Locke was looking to commune with the island, so he decided to drag out the LSD, build a sweat hut, and have visions of Boone. So lame. And the whole pot thing - totally predictable. Not to mention as soon as that kid (whatshisname) that Locke picked up said he wanted in for blowing shit up, you could tell he was a cop.

Also, polar bear steals Eko. This is so laughable. Last-minute effort, guys? SINCE WHEN have polar bears ever dragged bodies off on the island? Since when have they even been a problem?

Why would the polar bear even DRAG EKO BACK TO THE CAVE and not bother eating him. Ugh. What the fuck. That irritated me so much.

Lets not even TALK about these two new fucktwats from the survivors - Nikki and Paulo or whoever. YEA HERE HAVE SOME NEW CHARACTERS.

Why is it that this show seems to be HARDLY MOVING ALONG?

I love this show. Seriously, I've never watched anything on TV religiously, but Lost is it for me. And they're REALLY fucking with me at this point. I am almost ready to give up the show, its getting so shit. ;_;

JazzFlight Oct 19, 2006 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass
Pffth, I thought this episode was pretty lame. (What else is new.)

Locke was looking to commune with the island, so he decided to drag out the LSD, build a sweat hut, and have visions of Boone. So lame. And the whole pot thing - totally predictable. Not to mention as soon as that kid (whatshisname) that Locke picked up said he wanted in for blowing shit up, you could tell he was a cop.

Also, polar bear steals Eko. This is so laughable. Last-minute effort, guys? SINCE WHEN have polar bears ever dragged bodies off on the island? Since when have they even been a problem?

Why would the polar bear even DRAG EKO BACK TO THE CAVE and not bother eating him. Ugh. What the fuck. That irritated me so much.

Lets not even TALK about these two new fucktwats from the survivors - Nikki and Paulo or whoever. YEA HERE HAVE SOME NEW CHARACTERS.

Why is it that this show seems to be HARDLY MOVING ALONG?

I love this show. Seriously, I've never watched anything on TV religiously, but Lost is it for me. And they're REALLY fucking with me at this point. I am almost ready to give up the show, its getting so shit. ;_;

Seconded.

I think the writers just don't know what the hell to do with these characters anymore, so it's all a muddled mess.

Next week looks like crap, too.
preview:
Just a long boring episode where the Others do tortures on Sawyer. Fun.

Add in the fact that after the next 3 episodes, we'll have to wait until February, and you start to realize that this is all just the writers wasting time.

LOST= the way to watch a shitload of commercials with a bit of show tacked on.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Oct 19, 2006 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzFlight
Seconded.

I think the writers just don't know what the hell to do with these characters anymore, so it's all a muddled mess.

Next week looks like crap, too.
preview:
Just a long boring episode where the Others do tortures on Sawyer. Fun.

O god, I know, right?

Spoiler:
Others: "DO YOU LOVE HIM?"
Kate: "DONT HURT HIM PLEASE!"
Others: "DO YOU LOVE HIM?"
Kate: "O WHAT THE HELL PLEASE?"
Others: "DO YOU LOVE HIM?"
KATE: "YEA, ALRIGHT, FINE, WHATEVER."


You know, I am all about the romance between Kate and Sawyer, but SERIOUSLY. I am getting so sick of the gratuitous saccharine there, too. Stop slopping it all over your shitty episodes which are literally 1/4 commercials.

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Add in the fact that after the next 3 episodes, we'll have to wait until February, and you start to realize that this is all just the writers wasting time.
You're telling me that we only get to see the first six episodes and then have to wait what, 3 months for the next episodes? Is that SERIOUSLY how they're doing this? I should stop watching now before they break my heart. Really.

It's like trying to remember a person before they got cancer and died. You don't want to remember them lying in a goddamned hospital bed, choking on their own vomit. REMEMBER THE GOOD TIMES.

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LOST= the way to watch a shitload of commercials with a bit of show tacked on.
Even then, "show" is starting to get muddled.

I thought they brought on new writers this season, no? What the hell happened, here. LeHah WARNED me about this. SO UPSET. ;_;

(also, I would like to know what happened to Danielle. Where the black smoke is. so on and so forth)

Majin yami Oct 19, 2006 01:39 PM

Loved the episode. The trippin' scene was brilliant I thought. I'm wondering if some of the thing Boone said are gonna happen. For example, when Locke pointed to Claire, Aaron and Charlie he said "they'll be ok...for now" or something like that. Might have to watch that scene again.

The only thing I didn't like was that they revealed that the Hatch was completely destroyed. I loved that bloody set...

MagicalVacation Oct 19, 2006 04:21 PM

Pfff, I used to love LOST. But every single new episode leaves me saying to myself "Wow, another 45 minutes of NOTHING" The whole rescueing Eko scene is such an obvious filler.

Come on, we all KNEW locke, Eko and Desmond would be ok. So no surprise there. We also could have guessed that locke was gonna be the first one to go after kate, sawyer and jack. If only for the fact that he desperately wants to know more about the others and the island and he's not gonna find out more on the beach now that the button is gone. And that's really all there was said :-s so it was just an absolutely EMPTY episode.

And I still had some hope for the cliffhanger at the end, they usually give you something relatively good. But Desmond seeing into the future? Yeah... That's like, euh... hm.

Trigunnerz Oct 19, 2006 05:10 PM

If you hate the frequent commercials, watch it online. ABC provides online viewing of Lost with limited commercials. Like you just have to wait 30 seconds. Then you can fast foward stuff you think are boring and stuff.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Oct 19, 2006 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Trigunnerz
If you hate the frequent commercials, watch it online. ABC provides online viewing of Lost with limited commercials. Like you just have to wait 30 seconds. Then you can fast foward stuff you think are boring and stuff.

I do hate the commercials, but at the same time, I struggle with the idea of seeing it with the rest of America, you know?

I think I can tolerate the commercials, no matter how numerous, and just use them as pee breaks or whatever.

How's the watching online? Is it streaming?

JazzFlight Oct 19, 2006 06:49 PM

I don't care about the commercials, I don't even watch them (I usually just browse on my computer during them, and when the show comes back on, I turn around).

However, the very fact that Lost is now becoming a very commercial-heavy show affects the storyline. It's obvious ABC wants to milk as much money out of it as they can (through advertising revenue), so the writers drag out the seasons.

I almost wish Lost had never gotten popular. The story would have been resolved by now and we could have been watching some new show.

fiercedeity Oct 19, 2006 09:19 PM

Have to admit I wasnt too impressed with this episode of lost. Im gonna put my post in spoiler tags though, cause I will probably give some stuff away by mistake.

Spoiler:
To start with, they introduced 2 new characters from the original plane crash and tried to brush them over as something that we just havent paid attention to in the last 2 seasons, which I think is a serious problem. The writers are almost passing the blame onto us for their awful mistake. They appear near the end of the episode chatting away as if they had always been there, not a good thing to do. Second, is the whole Locke losing his voice and becoming all spiritual again. This was just complete crap because it lead into the whole polar bear section of the story. Total shiite if you ask me there. Then there was the Locke flashback. They just seemed to have tacked another piece of highly non-plausable story onto the end of Locke's awfully unbelieveable life. I used to like this character, but now I wish he would go the way of Boon. Up next is the awful reactions from Claire and Charlie to Lockes return. Totally unlike both characters and it almost seemed like different actors. Bringing Mr Ecko back? The goddamn hatch IMPLODED!! For anyone who doesnt know, it basically means collapse in on itself, meaning Ecko would have been totally annhialated. The scottish guy returning? Why? His story was resolved and sorted.

I have to be honest, the only good part of the episode was seeing that Hurley had returned. He is one of the best characters there is.

They started the season with a mind blowing introduction, a great first episode leading into another stunning second episode. Seems the writers are just allowing things to get flabby now. I wish Lost never got as big as it is, then the story would have been over by now, and it would have been alot tighter. Lets pray it doesnt last as long as Friends did!!!


Well thats my opinion on the recent events in lost, im dissappointed to say the least, lets hope for some redemption in the next few.

rockthepartay Oct 19, 2006 09:45 PM

There is no doubt that the writers are "extending" the show more than it needs to be, but I feel people are definitely over exaggerating it. It's not a credible negative against the show yet.

After watching episode three again, the two new characters are barely noticeable.

Have we forgotten how Arzt was introduced? Ethan? Almost the exact same way.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Oct 19, 2006 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rockthepartay
Have we forgotten how Arzt was introduced? Ethan? Almost the exact same way.

But really, how much did Arzt matter? He was there only for dramatic effect, and had he not been giving a break to Hurley for comic relief, he would have served no real purpose. That was a mistake too, if you ask me - putting him in randomly.

Ethan is questionable, though. You weren't SUPPOSED to notice him. That was the entire point, though I admit he could have been expounded upon a little bit before hand.

makura Oct 20, 2006 03:32 AM

I never saw the first season, what's this Deja Vu thing that Hurley is talking about at the end?

The Plane Is A Tiger Oct 20, 2006 03:41 AM

Wasn't he just talking about how it felt like Deja Vu to hear Locke's speech just the way Desmond described it earlier? I'm really hoping that they aren't actually giving Desmond precognitive abilities, but that dramatic focus on him at the end is worrying. Locke had visions too when Charlie went to get water and he imagined Eko talking to him, so it could still be passed off as a product of the hatch implosion. The three of them caught in the blast were just given visions in their daze or something.

makura Oct 20, 2006 05:03 AM

Oh, OK. Dumb of me not to notice that before.
Yeah, Lost is getting pretty slow and irratating.

BTW, if the hatch in underground and imploded, why would it make a surface crater at one specific point (most likely the hatch door.) Why not the side door that they had or any of the hallways/tunnels that the hatch had.

The Others seemed to not care all too much about that hatch being imploded. If so, then what's the significance of it? Why go through all the trouble of Mr. Eko having his divine dream about pushing the button? Nothing bad seemed to be happening yet.

Were they really brought by fate/ the island? Or is this all turning out to be a big coincidence and The Others are pretty much in control of everything, even those mysterious other hatches (which could mean absolutely nothing if they're not interested in them much.)

Musharraf Oct 20, 2006 08:31 AM

Ehh, this weeks episode was a bit weird, though I somehow liked the flashback. Well, at least we know what happened to John and the others (not the Others) now.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Oct 20, 2006 08:47 AM

Yea, about the hatch just IMPLODING and everyone surviving - that seems like an AWFULLY EASY WAY to get rid of the hatch. Exactly one season ago at this time, the hatch was of dire importance. Now, the hatch is completely gone, and all the mysteries with it (the button, the doors, the new appliances) are gone.

It seems like an easy way to get rid of it - especially when it turns out to be so inconsequential. EVERYTHING is turning out to be inconsequential. Thats whats pissing me off. ;_;

Musharraf Oct 20, 2006 08:53 AM

I'm still trying to figure out how exactly John and Desmond got out of this, uhh, "implosion" alive. And why was Desmond naked, etc.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Oct 20, 2006 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Musharraf
I'm still trying to figure out how exactly John and Desmond got out of this, uhh, "implosion" alive. And why was Desmond naked, etc.

It was the will of the island, Musharraf! THE ISLAND WANTED THEM TO SURVIVE. (so lame)

But I'm with everyone else - why didn't at least Desmond die in the implosion? I like Desmond and all - maybe more than Eko - but someone should have seriously died in that - Desmond was all wrapped up. He should have died.

And also, Desmond says he put in the safety override key just before the implosion, which saved them all.

Which I can't really swallow, considering the condition of the hatch. (Did anyone else think the hatch looked rather small, area-wise, when Charlie and Locke looked down on it?)

Teioh Oct 20, 2006 10:00 AM

If Lost stays the way it is right now, I sure won't miss it during the winter break.
I read somewhere that Terry O'Quinn was given the opportunity to play the Locke he wants to this season. Damn, does Locke suck now.
The flashback was totally useless this time, didn't say a bit about the character, just used to introduce the "sweat lodge" >_>

Also, great way to introduce the new characters. The way they talked to Hurley, I already dislike them.

Oh, and Desmond looking into the future, isn't that *one* mystery too much for where the show's at right now. In season 5 the characters will be flying all over the island with their newly acquired abilities and no explanation given.

Trigunnerz Oct 20, 2006 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass
I do hate the commercials, but at the same time, I struggle with the idea of seeing it with the rest of America, you know?

I think I can tolerate the commercials, no matter how numerous, and just use them as pee breaks or whatever.

How's the watching online? Is it streaming?

It isn't too bad. It's streaming so you probably need at least a broadband connection. You can make the screen bigger, but it crashes for me for some reason. It's great for me because I don't tend to watch TV very often, and I can watch it anytime. There are only like three 30 second commercials.

As for the show,

Spoiler:
I thought it was a pretty good episode. Maybe it's because I just started watching it from the 3rd season so I'm not pissed off as everyone else thinking, "it's another filler show! ?#$#@$". I wonder why that fat kid said deja vu. But I wish they would concentrate on what happened to Jack and them and the Sun and the others.

JazzFlight Oct 20, 2006 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Trigunnerz
I thought it was a pretty good episode. Maybe it's because I just started watching it from the 3rd season so I'm not pissed off as everyone else thinking, "it's another filler show! ?#$#@$". I wonder why that fat kid said deja vu. But I wish they would concentrate on what happened to Jack and them and the Sun and the others.

You don't need to spoiler already-aired episode content.

Hurley said Deja Vu because Desmond had mentioned, "good speech" to him before (out of the blue), and then someone said "good speech" later after Locke talked.

It means that Desmond has some "seeing-the-future" bullshit. God I hate what this show's become.

nazpyro Oct 20, 2006 10:54 AM

I'm somewhat curious. Maybe Desmond IS dead, and Hurley (and Locke) were just imagning him. Hurley has the history of seeing imaginary people. He was at that mental hospital thingamabobberer, in Season 1 I think. And Locke, he's always seeing things, especially the last episode in that sweat room or whatever it was called with that "vision" of his. And hence Hurley's "deja vu": maybe, maybe not. Edit: nevermind, not. :/

Also, wouldn't this be Desmond's first time in the village? Wouldn't there have been more of a commotion over this? I'm also trying to remember if Hurley's even met Desmond prior to this. I think he did... I just forget since Season 2 never really held my attention.


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