First, nade spam isn't nearly as prevalent in MW2 and I have to wonder if you've seriously ever played it. Seconding that comparing a FPS to a Survival game is dumb.

Second, stop crying like a woman. "Oh no some dudes on the internet played the game wrong" I assume you must be new to online gaming. Random people suck, welcome to about ten years ago.

Now I don't have a problem with "speed running" as it were because our group (Daravon, Kyndig, LeHah and myself) would do it on certain levels if we knew there was no way we'd lose the game if we all wiped. And quite frankly, that kind of shit is hilarious when everyone is in on it. Sometimes only one person makes it, maybe two, and other times one person gets tripped up at the end only to have HERO PLAYER NUMBER TWO come in to save the day. I think one time all four of us made it past a tank, and I hear L4D1 players still tell of the legend of GFF in hushed tones.

Anyway if you hate it so much find a group of coordinated people (friends) to play with and stop your whinin'.

Jesus, sorry I poked your sacred cow with a stick.

"He's never played an online game before but he's complaining-- on the internet, of all things!! What a scoop! Sure hope no one's irony meter goes through the roof on this one!"

Jealous because you don't have mad game: confirmed.

I used to have mad game

but the trade-in value was too much to turn down

How can you trade in that which you never possessed to begin with?

Stop posing.

So in other news the game is actually pretty good when it is played cooperatively!

It's almost as if they had laid groundwork for the game to be played as such!

I mean seriously if you agree that douchebags exist in the game and they do this consistently why are you even talking right now

Your mom got turned down for trade-in value, I heard.

Because you ain't got no L4D2 skills, nugget.

It's true, she wasn't able to become a professional prostitute because I could not play Left 4 Dead sufficiently selfishly

Why do you go right for the heart, LeHah? :(

You see, the thing is that I realized long ago that playing with "douchebags" was a terrible idea, and thus I tend to utilize these things called "friends" to play L4D with instead.

maybe you should look into this

seems like a good idea!

Sometimes you want a friend game, and sometimes you want a pick-up game. There's no argument here. I play with friends when friends allow.

It is infinitely funny to me that I'm now under FULL SCALE INVESTIGATION because I commented on the state of the community that you all seem to agree is shit.

Because whining about shit that everyone knows is shit is redundant and/or a waste of our time.

Go preach to the choir elsewhere nigga

Sometimes you want to have sex with your beautiful girlfriend.

Sometimes you want to three dollar bareback a 50 year old Korean whore who lives down on the Greens.

I guess?

Even on rare occasions that I've played with randoms, I've never had this specific issue. Playing with random people in ANY game is going to be a mixed bag; complaining that random people are fucking you and aren't playing the game right happens with just about every online game, that's a people issue and not a game issue.

Also hauling ass with magnums is actually how everyone I've talked to recommended getting past expert/realism campaigns.

I just thank GOD every day that I have friends. That play games!

Any of you PC people tried playing L4D2 on the 20 person maps? There's something hilariously great about two tanks rushing 10 survivors. I can't figure out if I like the pro servers better than the point servers for that mode since both tend to be a lot of fun. The only really shitty thing about point servers is how most of the Russians can't seem to figure out how it works (and there's always so many of them on the servers).