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Matt May 8, 2008 06:46 PM

I checked it again, and apparently it's called a "Service Contract".
Details are here.

But then I dug around on xbox.com and found that MS will service any RRODs for up to 3 years from purchase.

Strange. I guess it's for the times when you want to send your console in for a small hiccup like a lost save file?

russ May 8, 2008 06:50 PM

No, it is for actual problems other than RRoD. Like maybe 16 months from now your optical drive passes away. That would be fixed under the extended warranty.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor May 8, 2008 07:22 PM

Well, you can always induce an RROD at that point, or simply state that it's intermittant on the report.

OmagnusPrime May 14, 2008 06:24 AM

There's a rumoured list of Xbox Live tweaks from an expected spring update that have appeared online. Most are fairly small changes, but there's some interesting ones in there. Here's the full list:

Spoiler:
Xbox LIVE
1. Option to delay sign-in to Xbox LIVE upon booting console (to allow user to set Online Status).
2. Option to promote Child Account from Family Settings.
3. Disallow Child Accounts (over 18) to override Family Settings by launching Privacy Settings through a title.
4. Option in Family Settings for Child Accounts to enable child-oriented/non-mature advertisements.
5. Introduce a group chat (4) for Private Chat and conferences through Video Chat.
6. Support to indicate media being watched to gamercard status (video content from Marketplace only).
7. Extend height for Bio field in Personal Profile, easier navigation through text.
8. More fields present in Personal Profile - recent achievements, interests, games, movies, links, custom section.
9. Compact Personal Profile for new fields (navigating to field will open it up).
10. Mandatory option to delete duplicate titles from gamercard (excludes Games for Windows - LIVE). User disconnected from Xbox LIVE when booting any title until action complete.
11. Option to remove payment information from gamertag.
12. New payment methods for international users.
13. Download History on Account Management better organized - games, genre, type, download date, miscellaneous.
14. Long descriptions of items on Marketplace can be scrolled using right stick.
15. Better organization of free content on Marketplace.
16. Option to 'ping' when testing connection.
17. Allow re-connection to Xbox LIVE if Ethernet cable is re-inserted whilst powered on.
18. New strip colors available to developers, staff gamercards.
19. New corner icon available to ambassadors.
20. Re-introduce Messages button for Inside Xbox updates only.
21. Option to store up to 10 messages permanently on server (excludes invites, status messages).
22. Increase character limit for text messages between friends only.
23. Option to disable invites from non-friends or all players.
24. Option to disable invites from titles not on gamercard (excludes demos).
25. Option to have smaller items moved up in Active Downloads.
26. Automatically re-connect to Xbox LIVE if disconnected unexpectedly (set intervals).
27. Option to download gamer picture (if available) from a gamercard being viewed.
28. Display random tips to replace static text on Xbox LIVE and Games blades.
29. New button on Marketplace for optional dashboard features - uses Storage Device memory.
30. Option to donate Microsoft Points to anybody with a Windows Live ID.
31. Option to purchase Membership for charities (includes benefits).
32. Integrate file-sharing for selected titles on Xbox LIVE and Games for Windows - LIVE.
33. Disable notifications to friends of user repeatedly signing into service (set period).
34. Option to see 'snippet' of text message in notification.
35. Windows Live Mail integration - includes support for Xbox LIVE Vision.
36. Web feeds integration - text, images, audio. Includes support for specific item codes on Marketplace.
37. Option to display gamer picture or standard picture as display picture in Windows Live Messenger.
38. Support for headset, Xbox LIVE Vision in Windows Live Messenger.
39. Support for limited 'winks' that display on dashboard interface. Option to disable 'winks' and 'nudges' added.
40. Notifications separate from Windows Live Messenger to Xbox 360 notifications.
41. Disable multiple languages from being used in any Xbox LIVE editable fields.

Games
1. Option to delete titles from gamercard with 0 gamerscore and 0 achievements (excludes some titles that will be re-added to launch another title).
2. Organize My Games at the Games Library section better (includes disc-based titles) - sort by genre, platform (Games for Windows - LIVE), percentage completion.
3. Support to display friends leaderboards for disc-based titles.
4. Show dates of an achievement unlocked when comparing.
5. Preload Games Library upon dashboard bootup for faster access.
6. Game updates now shown as items in Memory, increased amount of updates on Storage Device.
7. Option to delete game updates, removed 'cheat code' as no longer needed.
8. Support for more titles to display banner when accessing guide in-game.
9. Option to re-introduce awarded gamer pictures from titles that do not have their own re-introduce feature (requires saved game).
10. Disable gamer pictures from being awarded from trials.
11. Support for titles to store installation data on Storage Device for faster loading.
12. Synchronization to achievements offline/online that were deleted and then re-added from developers.

Media
1. Option to hold LT and RT for rewinding/fast-forwarding video content.
2. Option to delete individual music tracks from storage device.
3. Option to rip music CD at different quality.
4. Copy non-protected files (pictures, music, videos) from USB storage devices, CDs and computers to proprietary storage devices.
5. Support for menu, top-menu features on video content downloaded from Marketplace.
6. Section added for audio delivered through feeds (podcasts). Option to stream, download to Storage Device.
7. Support added for video titles/description to gamercard status.

Dashboard/Miscellaneous
1. Option to navigate quickly out of several menus back to respective blade home (applies to Games, Media, System).
2. New blade trim styles added.
3. Introduce expanded Inside Xbox as a portal to news, weather, entertainment, help and community features.
4. New sounds for various functions (notifications, blades, navigation).
5. Calibration options for display/sound.
6. Calibration options for motion sensor devices.
7. New effects for Xbox LIVE Vision and dashboard background.
8. Disable changing of Theme when on Memory to prevent 'hanging'.
9. Preload recent, limited items upon dashboard bootup on Memory.
10. Faster loading of Themes section on guide.
11. Option to see what items will not work offline due to DRM license changing from Memory.
12. Option to automatically associate new DRM to items downloaded for free.
13. Indicate 'charging' status on guide when Play & Charge kit is connected.
14. Option to change text colors on guide to better contrast some backgrounds.
16. Language improvements.
18. Word censor updated for fields.
19. Privacy Settings/Family Settings updated for new features.
20. Voice, picture messages can be read at Xbox.com (Gold accounts).

[ source ]


The things that caught my eye are:
- Group voice chat
- Donate MS points to another Live account
- Support for voice chat to Messenger contacts
- Ability to delete 0 point games from gamercard (about fucking time if it happens)
- Voice and picture messages accessible from Xbox.com (for Gold members)

Forsety May 14, 2008 07:08 AM

"11. Support for titles to store installation data on Storage Device for faster loading."

Finally going to allow optional HDD installs? If that's what that means, that's probably the best thing in the list.

Rotorblade May 14, 2008 07:10 AM

Provided it's handled properly, yes, I agree. I like the idea of exchanging MS Points between accounts. It'd be time to fuck up the Japanese economy if that's the case.

OmagnusPrime May 14, 2008 07:23 AM

The MS point exchange thing has me curious. Something tells me you'd be limited to gifting people in your region, because I pay more for my MS points than you fuckers in the States, so it'd be easy for me to get you guys to gift me points via Paypal and all that jazz, which would royally screw up their rip-off Europe plans. Something tells me that if it happens it'll be bollocksed up.

Rotorblade May 14, 2008 07:30 AM

Like many disappointing things, Heroes for instance, the speculation in our heads is probably going to be better than anything actually dished out from the source.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss May 14, 2008 08:10 AM

I like the sound of being able to set online status before I'm signed in. Much as I love playing with people online, some days you just want to play single player and it'd be easier to appear offline than to seem rude refusing game invites.

russ May 14, 2008 08:18 AM

Group voice chat finally. Even though it is only up to four participants, that is still something that was a long time coming.

nuttyturnip May 14, 2008 08:22 AM

24. Option to disable invites from titles not on gamercard (excludes demos).

Now I won't get invites to play Halo 3/CoD4.

Otherwise the things you listed sound like the very few things that Nintendo got right with their online service. Having the option to gift MS Points (why not XBLA titles?) is one of the few things that's missing from XBL. Plus it's about time they gave us group chat.

Dark Nation May 14, 2008 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis Franz (Post 604834)
I like the sound of being able to set online status before I'm signed in. Much as I love playing with people online, some days you just want to play single player and it'd be easier to appear offline than to seem rude refusing game invites.

This.

That's the reason is why I am not farther along in the missions on GTAIV. Everytime I get on its all "So-and-So would like to Play!".
I like Multiplayer as much as the next guy, but I wanna get to Time's Square one of these days! :gonk:

Quote:

"Support for titles to store installation data on Storage Device for faster loading."
Sweet, If this goes through, maybe that'll kill any load times from Lost Odyssey and GTAIV (Or at least reduce pop-in occurrences)

OmagnusPrime May 14, 2008 12:01 PM

You can always turn down invitations to games. People would understand. Just saying.

russ May 14, 2008 12:20 PM

I don't know, some people we know like to spam invites even when they know the person they are inviting don't even have the game in question.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor May 14, 2008 04:02 PM

I'm still skeptical. "Feature lists" for these updates always come out early, and they're always somewhat flakey looking or from sources that aren't always that trustworthy. I'd love a lot of what's on that list, but I remember reading rumour lists containing group chat as a feature the last time we got a major upgrade. I ain't doubting it, but I ain't believing it outright either. Seems too good to be true, and all that. Especially with some stuff like the installations being on there.

But the gifting points (I can finally buy a bit of content on a marketplace that's not American without tieing the credit card to another gamercard!), group chat, and clearing out of old crap on the gamercard will be nice.

Cetra May 14, 2008 04:08 PM

Good to be skeptical because Microsoft outright denied this list:

Quote:

"We don't comment on rumors or speculation, but what we can tell you is we've never seen this list before."
Rumor: 360 dashboard update to support game installs, 'motion sensor devices' [update] - Joystiq

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor May 14, 2008 04:26 PM

Well, that's a slight variation on the often used canned response they give to such things, that they have given it to both true and false rumours before, so it's hardly decisive.

I think the biggest knock against the list is how there are some wildly goofy things on it.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss May 15, 2008 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime (Post 604893)
You can always turn down invitations to games. People would understand. Just saying.

Oh no, absolutely but I feel bad telling Phong I don't want to play Halo or Rainbow with him, especially as rather than sending game invites he starts up private chat sessions (Which we normally forget we're in and wonder why nobody else in the game is talking to us...).

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor May 24, 2008 12:19 PM

Hahahahaha. Shit. No Spring update. AT ALL.

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: MS to Delist XBLA Titles : Next Generation - Interactive Entertainment Today, Video Game and Industry News - Home of Edge Online

Mclawl sandwich. Turned out it was correct to be skeptical! Once again, "news" blogs make shit up! Horray~

That's not the only strange thing, though! BEHOLD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by next-gen.biz
According to Whitten, XBLA titles that have been out for more than six months, have a Metacritic score of less than 65%, and have a conversion rate of less than 6% will be eligible for desliting. Microsoft will give three months of notice before these titles are removed.

Whitten also told us that there would be no spring dashboard update for Xbox 360 owners this year, saying that resources were instead focused on “building the proper infrastructure and scale for the service.” There will however be a change to DRM policy and a tool released next month that will allow 360 owners to re-license content to a single console—finally fixing the issue that forced gamers playing XBLA games to be connected to Xbox LIVE if their 360 broke down and was replaced.

What the fuck?

I'm all for a fix to that extremely broken DRM. That's need a fix since day one.

But removing titles from the service, even shitty ones, is ridiculous. Part of the point of digital distrobution is that there IS no shelf space one needs to consider. There is no concerns about lost revenue elsewhere if old product is left available. It lets people find whatever they want with ease, and not having to hear "sold out" or unavailable. This does nothing but hose over some devs.

What's truely mind boggling is the bit about metacritic. Are we allowing a corrupt media to collectively decide what games we are even ALLOWED TO PLAY anymore?

Just discount it and stick it in a special bargain bin catagory or something. There's literally NO REASON I can think of to remove the stuff other than realizing that browsing titles sucks on the Xbox.

Some games I own that fall under the "metacritic has determined it sucks" catagory is Mad Tracks, Time Pilot, and Triggerheart Exelica. If these need to be deleted to make space, am I gonna be able to redownload them later? Hell, most of the arcade classics are eligible for delisting thanks to this. While I might personally not like them, a few people do. It's just silly to remove it at all.

What argument do they have for doing this? GOOD GAMES NOT SELLING BECAUSE OF BAD GAMES? Then apply QA from here on out. But this is silly.

russ May 24, 2008 12:32 PM

Man, they are really hurting for hard drive space on their servers. Those 30 or so XBLA titles taking up those five total gigs of hard drive space simply have to go. I think I could donate them a couple 32 gig SCSI drives if they are hurting that bad.

Bloggs May 24, 2008 12:36 PM

I thought maybe instead of delisting titles they could cut the prices (or even give them away) at least that way there's a choice, removing them is just silly in my opinion. I kinda knew there wouldn't be any updates, that list was too good to be true. :(

value tart May 24, 2008 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin (Post 604834)
I like the sound of being able to set online status before I'm signed in. Much as I love playing with people online, some days you just want to play single player and it'd be easier to appear offline than to seem rude refusing game invites.

You can already do that, and I've done that many times on days where I've wanted to play by myself.

As for the delisting titles thing, are they fucking stupid? There is no logical reason that I can think of for them to need to remove titles that are performing poorly. There are plenty of people who've not taken their system online yet that might LOVE some of the games that are on the service. The fact that the games are online means that the game will never be impossible to find/sold out. It's right there, a button press away.

If they're worried about being able to find the good games, why not just put the crappy ones into a "Value" section? That's pretty much a euphemism for "Shit" at this point, you can just move all the crappy games into the Arcade Value section, knock them down a couple hundred MSP to justify them being a VALUE, then leave them there to rot.

Tube May 24, 2008 12:42 PM

Code:

236    Robotron: 2084      2006      65
237    Bankshot Billiards 2    2005    65
238    Feeding Frenzy    2006    65
239    Dig Dug    2006    65
241    Ms. Pac-Man    2007    65
246    Gauntlet    2005    65
247    Crystal Quest    2006    64
248    Speedball 2: Brutal Deluxe    2007    64
256    Texas Hold 'em    2006    63
258    Fatal Fury Special    2007    63
260    Contra    2006    63
261    Marathon: Durandal    2007    63
262    Triggerheart Exelica    2008    63
264    Missile Command    2007    63
265    Time Pilot    2006    63
266    Track & Field    2007    63
267    Hardwood Backgammon    2005    62
270    Hardwood Spades    2005    62
271    Pac-Man    2006    62
273    Frogger    2006    62
274    Mad Tracks    2007    62
278    Root Beer Tapper    2007    61
281    Super Contra    2007    61
288    Geon: Emotions    2007    59
289    Soltrio Solitaire    2007    59
292    Arkadian Warriors    2007    59
293    TiQal    2008    58
295    Rush'n Attack    2007    58
297    Aegis Wing    2007    58
298    Defender    2006    58
299    Rocketmen: Axis of Evil    2008    57
300    Double Dragon    2007    57
302    Xevious    2007    56
304    Gyruss    2007    56
310    Asteroids / Asteroids Deluxe    2007    55
312    Battlestar Galactica    2007    55
315    Centipede & Millipede    2007    55
318    Boogie Bunnies    2008    54
319    Spyglass Board Games    2007    54
322    Brain Challenge    2008    54
324    Tetris Splash    2007    53
328    Ecco the Dolphin    2007    53
331    Battlezone    2008    52
338    Yie Ar Kung-Fu    2007    51
341    Wing Commander Arena    2007    51
342    Novadrome    2006    50
349    Shrek-N-Roll    2007    49
353    Mr. Driller Online    2008    48
354    Scramble    2006    47
355    Tempest    2007    47
358    Street Trace: NYC    2007    45
360    Discs of Tron    2008    44
361    TotemBall    2006    44
363    Word Puzzle    2007    44
364    New Rally-X    2006    43
366    Tron    2008    43
368    Bliss Island    2008    42
369    Cyberball 2072    2007    41
371    Screwjumper!    2007    40
376    Rocky and Bullwinkle    2008    37
381    Yaris    2007    17

Fun games getting the "f-you" treatment:
Feeding Frenzy
Crystal Quest
Texas Hold'em
Contra
Marathon
Mad Tracks
Geon: Emotions
Arkadian Warriors
Aegis Wing
Spyglass Board Games
Brain Challenge
Tron

NOTE: OPINION

Bloggs May 24, 2008 12:45 PM

Brain Challenge is getting delisted? I thought that was in the top 10 XBLA games?

Aegis Wing isn't available to us Brits so that's not a loss

As of 5/12
Top Arcade Titles (Full Versions)
1 Assault Heroes 2
2 UNO
3 Brain Challenge
4 DOOM
5 N+
6 Ikaruga
7 Wits & Wagers
8 Worms
9 Bomberman LIVE
10 Assault Heroes

The above arcade list is based on full versions purchased.


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