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Slash Aug 25, 2006 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Ramen
Christian on the mic is awesome.

Please...oh god PLEASE tell me you did not just realize this

Silent J Aug 25, 2006 04:32 PM

Yeah, heel Christian is so much better than face Christian.

I didn't know Rhino and Christian were that close...

CapturedPenguin Aug 25, 2006 05:16 PM

Kurt Angle has been released from the WWE due to "personal reasons"

Source: WWE.com

Mr.Ramen Aug 25, 2006 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Slash
Please...oh god PLEASE tell me you did not just realize this

YES I JUST REALIZED IT BECAUSE I JUST STARTED WATCHING WRESTLING YESTERDAY

Manny Biggz Aug 26, 2006 06:53 AM

LAX are the new TNA tag champs! The TNA tag division is really on fire right now! I'm also really happy that they're letting Homicide be himself instead of forcing him to change his character for a mainstream audience...

SuperSonic Aug 27, 2006 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CapturedPenguin
Kurt Angle has been released from the WWE due to "personal reasons"

Source: WWE.com

That sucks, but if he feels he made the right call then he did. When Angle first came into the WWF/WWE, I wasn't all that excited about it. Now he's had time to grow on me and I consider him to be a great wrestler.

So Angle's been taking medication to help with the stress and the pain? Now I'm starting to realize why some wrestlers are taking drugs. I didn't start realizing it until now.

Yeah, I might be dense for taking this long to realize it but it's finally starting to make sense to me.

DBCE Slayer Aug 27, 2006 01:17 AM

I hope that the Kane-Umaga feud builds up. There's a lot of potential there and it looks very interesting.

Manny Biggz Aug 27, 2006 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSonic
That sucks, but if he feels he made the right call then he did. When Angle first came into the WWF/WWE, I wasn't all that excited about it. Now he's had time to grow on me and I consider him to be a great wrestler.

So Angle's been taking medication to help with the stress and the pain? Now I'm starting to realize why some wrestlers are taking drugs. I didn't start realizing it until now.

Yeah, I might be dense for taking this long to realize it but it's finally starting to make sense to me.

He didn't quit. He got fired...

Slash Aug 27, 2006 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Manny Biggz
He didn't quit. He got fired...

Yes, he got fired because he decided that he felt that wrestling has taken its final toll on his body and requested an early release from his contract because he wanted to recover to get his mind and body back in sync.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/3232350

Manny Biggz Aug 27, 2006 06:44 PM

And you trust wwe.com as 100% canon?

CapturedPenguin Aug 27, 2006 07:57 PM

Um, while WWE.com does have a lot of shoot/work angles, when it comes to releases they are pretty straight forward. If you don't believe WWE.com then head over to PWInsider.com they are more of the most factual wrestling news providers on the net. Unless it's one big cover up, it was a mutual agreement, it's been known since recent months Angle has been heavy medication dependent it was what his original 30 day suspension was about.

Manny Biggz Aug 27, 2006 08:35 PM

I'm just reffering to the part where Angle supposedly said that he's leaving because it's taken a toll on his body. The dude was becoming a downright nut case.

dagget Aug 27, 2006 08:57 PM

Well, when you factor in him going through a divorce, he keeps getting all these injuries, hasn't had really any significant time off like normal wrestlers do, it will start to affect you. :\

He just needed a long break and Vince thought it would be better to let him have that break instead of being over-worked and burnt out while being even more prone to mistakes and injuries.

Kostaki Aug 27, 2006 10:11 PM

Angle and the WWE really don't mix now given that he needs a lighter schedule to work with. I'd honestly rather see him and his talents in ROH/TNA so we can see some dream matches before he has to retire. Since they can save those matches for high caliber PPVs and shows, that would be perfect.

Won't happen though, because of many people would consider Angle "crazy" for leaving the WWE scene. A shame, too.

Manny Biggz Aug 27, 2006 10:31 PM

Angle wanted to continue to wrestle through the injuries. WWE had to keep shooting down any of his ideas untill he finally gave up. I'm not calling him a nut case for no reason...

Kostaki Aug 28, 2006 01:28 PM

So there's something apparently crazy about loving the business and wanting to give it everything you've got until the end?

That's not a nut case man, that's a cause for fucking respect.

SuperSonic Aug 28, 2006 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Manny Biggz
He didn't quit. He got fired...

Where did I say that he quit?

Edit during Raw: Holy shit, look who's back.

Spoiler:
Hell yes, the Masterpiece!!

dagget Aug 28, 2006 08:16 PM

lololol
Spoiler:
what the fuck is that on Chris Masters' face? It looks like something died.
:tpg:

SuperSonic Aug 28, 2006 08:27 PM

This night just got a helluva lot better...

Spoiler:
Ladder match, hell yes! My favorite! Okay, TLC but none the less it's a variation of the ladder match. And for the WWE title. :D

Kostaki Aug 28, 2006 11:39 PM

Having read the results for RAW upon returning from a night out on the town (what, I'd actually watch RAW?) I have only one thing to say.

Spoiler:
LOL

Edge v. Cena? DX v. Vince? A psuedo brand split? Chris Masters becomes Rob Conway?

Spoiler:
LOL~!
more liek welcome to two months ago again today thx

Manny Biggz Aug 29, 2006 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kostaki
So there's something apparently crazy about loving the business and wanting to give it everything you've got until the end?

That's not a nut case man, that's a cause for fucking respect.

Sure, I would love to respect a man for basically commiting suicide. Gotta think about the consequences here. There's a certain line that should not be crossed, and he was trying to catapult across it...

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Originally Posted by SuperSonic
Where did I say that he quit?

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Originally Posted by SuperSonic
That sucks, but if he feels he made the right call then he did.

My mistake if i'm wrong, but that's the vibe I got from that statment.

Kostaki Aug 29, 2006 11:04 AM

I think "commiting suicide" as a term is much too strong to apply to this. You and I both know that he was well aware of his own limits, and rather than sit at home collecting a paycheck he came back time and time again to entertain you.

As humans we should all be about breaking our own limits. Angle has lived being able to do that, so he has my respect in doing that. It takes real honor in this day and age to live up to your commitments and words, and I think we all gained something from watching his matches.

Winter Storm Aug 29, 2006 03:33 PM

Angle unlike CERTAIN wrestlers, is not on bad terms with Vince. Vince said it himself that the doors are always open to him. Beniot is doing the same thing(but he still has his contract).

Manny Biggz Aug 29, 2006 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kostaki
I think "commiting suicide" as a term is much too strong to apply to this. You and I both know that he was well aware of his own limits, and rather than sit at home collecting a paycheck he came back time and time again to entertain you.

As humans we should all be about breaking our own limits. Angle has lived being able to do that, so he has my respect in doing that. It takes real honor in this day and age to live up to your commitments and words, and I think we all gained something from watching his matches.

Can't argue with that, but if what I hear about him questioning why they're pushing guys like RVD, Big Show, and Sabu over him in ECW, then my respect for him gets knocked down quite a few notches.

Kostaki Aug 29, 2006 06:49 PM

I can sympathize with him asking questions like that. Why?

RVD was on top of his game. He had both the WWE and ECW titles in his grasp, but STILL STILL STILL took the risk of running around with narcotics. He was caught, it's bad for business. Valid question.

Big Show doesn't even belong on the ECW roster. ECW never needed big giant guys to get over in their promotion, they needed guys like the old roster had that were smaller but could go the distance in matches. Angle fits that bill perfectly, but Big Show is ECW Champion. Why? Valid question.

Sabu has no business being employed by the WWE. 80% of his "hardcore" moveset is now limited because of the WWE and their limitations on what can be performed and their wellness policy. That was Sabu's gimmick you know, the "homicidal, genocidal Sabu" bit. Angle could carry matches while giving off that air of being hardcore without requiring to resort to a gimmick where most of your moves are hardcore moves. Valid question.

Angle wanted what was good for business, and undoubtedly good for his career. He's been with the company now loyally since he signed with them, and deserves to be able to ask questions every now and then.

Respect is earned, and he earned it during his tenure by busting his ass for the business not doing stupid shit like getting caught with narcotics or relying on a gimmick that is crippled from promotion to promotion.

You have to think about the nature of things before putting politics ahead of the matter.


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