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I'm not sure if I should have damaged the box or not, seeing that the flanking bonus is needed for my attack to land. I couldn't find the rules anywhere regarding a grabbed creature's ability to flank, but obviously if it can't do it then my attack didn't actually land.
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Rules Compendium page 218 has this to say about flanking:
Restrictions: A creature cannot flank an enemy that it can't see. A creature also cannot flank while it is subject to any effect that prevents it from taking actions. If no line of effect exists between a creature and its enemy, the creature cannot flank the enemy. Now, Cyrus is grabbed, which imposes the Immobilized status, described as such in page 232: An immobilized creature cannot reposition itself on the battle grid, but it's not paralyzed. It can still stand up when it's prone, pull an item from a backpack, or attack normally. The key operative phrase here is attack normally. Since flanking in battle is basically a kind of distraction - you split the enemy's attention by threatening it from more than one direction. Therefore, you get the flanking bonus. Though, do note object mimics have resist 10 to all damage while in object form. **Hidden Content** |
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How much would you say Chesty LaRue weighs? say around 30 lbs. or less? :D
And if it is more than 30 lbs., what kind of consideration do i need to take into account if I wish to move it (her?) Do the normal slide - push - pull rules apply or is the fact that I'm faced with an object call in a different set of rules or a specific check? |
Object mimics are medium-sized and should weigh more than 30 pounds when in ooze form (as Chesty LaRue is currently in). So no, no Giantkind gloves in your immediate future :D
Still, they are magical beasts. I'm not apply law of conservation of mass. If they polymorph to object form, they take on its physical properties! When in object form, the mimics are "immobilized" This means they can still be teleported (as you've seen), pushed, pulled, or slid as normal. You can normally move an object without rolling for anything other an a strength check (to see if you're physically able to lift it). But to move creatures, especially hostiles, you need to grab it with a strength check (standard), and then make another strength check to move it (standard). I'm going to rule that object mimics in object form aren't going to helplessly let you pick them up and move them, especially when you already know they're monsters. To refresh, you need a free hand to grab (vs Reflex). A grab lasts until the end of your next turn (sustain minor). To move a grabbed creature, make a Strength vs Fortitude check. If you succeed, you pull it at half your speed. Your kingdom for a Controller? :D You can push with a Bull Rush though! |
So what you are saying is that I won't be playing Chest Toss with Chesty LaRue anytime soon. :(
Scratch that, I hadn't noticed the updated map. |
I'd like a map update if at all possible there, Zerg. Otherwise I know I'mma gonna fuck up.
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The oily Cyrus is now shifted four squares to the left, as he hasn't shaken off his oil bath yet.
http://upload.jetsam.org/images/arenab8d13.jpg I didn't update the status icons yet - while Cyrus is still bloodied (23 HP or 39%), so is Chesty LaRue (Mimic B). I almost overlooked that Beegraks has 5 Temp HP thanks to his tattoo (activates when you spend an action point). In the future, please remind me if I forget :) |
I have a question here, which concerns my use of the dragonbreath. Since Chesty is in wall form, does my Breath get across to Cyrus, or does the wall form act as a real wall and hence block line of effect? (reading your ruling on the box form I imagine that it does block it)
Additional Spam: Also, a friendly reminder that both mimics take 6 damage from my Villainous Shield for attacking Cyrus (unless the DR spares Chesty). |
There is no wall, because Chesty's dead thanks to Villainous Shield.
But in an alternate universe where Beegraks' opportunity attack missed, I'm going to rule that yeah, Chesty takes on the attributes of a wall and blocks line of effect. |
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I just realized Pang has that Fun Fun Prize which nullifies an attack against AC (like Ravening Maw). Before I have to rewrite too much history, let's give him a chance to activate it... If he wants to, of course. |
Err... sorry about that Pang. :bigeyes:
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Given the option of "Be unconscious" or "don't be unconscious" I guess I'd rather be Not Unconscious, yes.
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All right then. In that case you can take your turn which happens right after Beegraks poisoned you :)
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My decision to live has been rewarded with vile, hateful responsibility. I IMMEDIATELY REGRET MY DECISION.
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Two questions have I.
Firstly: in this new alternate reality of roses and sunshine, doesn't my recent resurgent smite give Cyrus the option to spend a surge? Question the secondth: It is my turn now, yes? :) |
Two questions for Pang!
2. Sorcerous Blade channeling lets you use ranged sorcerer powers as melee attack. Eyebite is a warlock power, so.... (choice of eating a Slam or moving away and reflavoring your post...) Boxy ain't dead yet, srsly. |
1. +2 damage from my Gauntlets of Bloody Whatever that hate bloodied things
2. Oh I'll just eat the slam then you lawyery lawyer you |
Have we pulled the lever at U3 yet? Because if not, I'm totally going for that before a boring old peak down the hall. Levers have proven quite a bit of fun so far in this here cave or whatever.
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I would like to thank Skills for his services as a monster controller. With one short encounter, he's added quite a bit of color, and drained off a lot of surges and dailies from the party! :)
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Zerg, I'd like to tentatively thank you for reminding us about the chest that we forgot to open. I say tentatively because I've yet to see the contents and wether or not Beegraks is gonna be disintegrated upon laying his hand on the latch.
Judging by the way this hall has treated us so far, that wouldn't be a big surprise. :p |
Ha, I didn't even expect any mechanical benefit out of my poor-man's shield.
Also, the item card overlaid on the picture is a nice touch and probably one I'm gonna steal. |
On retrospect I should have expanded the skull pic to the right, and put the stat card in the empty space. But ehh, was spur of the moment and all... Glad you like it :p
Mechanically I figure a makeshift shield should have similar protective benefits to regular shield, except for durability. It seems like the dice wasn't with you though. |
This empty chest lid that Cyrus has fashioned into a shield, was it form the one containing the mask, or did he open the chest that's in the blue hallway without me noticing it?
Also, I wasn't sure if I had to roll a check to figure out the parchment scraps, so I'll just wait for Zerg to tell me which one, if any, I should roll. |
T'was from the empty chest, the one you opened.
As for the parchment scraps, answer given in the update :p |
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