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meecrofilm Feb 20, 2007 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dopefish (Post 395002)
MAF is tired and the Pens' defense is porous.

Fleury played a terrible game. That was only his 4th game in 9 days if i'm not mistaken? He should be OK. That lost goal was one of the worst I've ever seen. The shot was going WIDE and he tipped it back on goal. Therrien said he was thinking about putting Thibault in for the 3rd. I think he should have. Also, it would be nice If Nasreddine plays. HE does after all lead the Pens D-men in +/-

FreeHooker Feb 21, 2007 01:19 AM

Canucks win! Canucks win!

3-2 win over Anaheim in OT. They played a pretty sore first period, but picked it up after that. The game was really fun to watch for a 7 minute span in the third, which had no whistles during that span. Then the Canucks went into the usual shutdown mode to go for the single point.

Roberto Luongo got the night off. Dany Sabourin played well for his first career NHL win, making 38 saves. I really don't know what to say about this team. 18-3-3 since Christmas, 6th overall in the NHL. With this lack of talent? I'm trying to stay objective, but I'd like to think that Alain Vigneault is the front runner for the Jack Adams...

Him and Michel Therrien are probably side-by-side if the voting took place today...

Speaking of the Penguins, I need NHL center ice package so that I can see more of their games. I fell in love with watching them after seeing them play twice this year on Hockey Night in Canada.

Dopefish Feb 22, 2007 10:30 PM

In the more entertaining conference, the Penguins kept pace with the Devils, 7 points behind in the division.

And Ottawa and Buffalo had a pretty weak brawl in the second period. They play the second of a home-and-home in Ottawa Saturday.

Wojo Feb 22, 2007 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeHooker (Post 396303)
I'm trying to stay objective, but I'd like to think that Alain Vigneault is the front runner for the Jack Adams...

Him and Michel Therrien are probably side-by-side if the voting took place today...

Even though Vigneault is a damn good coach and fixed a lot of mistakes from the previous nucks coach, I think Therrien has the edge over him. Remember the Penguins were absolute dog shit for 4 years in a row and now they are one of the best teams in the East.

Speaking of dog shit, the FSN feeds from the South are exactly that, dog shit. It's like they have no idea what contrast is. I just noticed tonight and other nights how games in Florida are televised with such a dark contrast, I feel like I have glaucoma.

FreeHooker Feb 23, 2007 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Wojo (Post 398025)
Even though Vigneault is a damn good coach and fixed a lot of mistakes from the previous nucks coach, I think Therrien has the edge over him. Remember the Penguins were absolute dog shit for 4 years in a row and now they are one of the best teams in the East.

Speaking of dog shit, the FSN feeds from the South are exactly that, dog shit. It's like they have no idea what contrast is. I just noticed tonight and other nights how games in Florida are televised with such a dark contrast, I feel like I have glaucoma.

True that, man, true that. But I'd like to point out the disgusting lack of talent that this year's version of the Canucks possess.

Pittsburgh is up the butt with young talent. But then again, to mold these young'uns into mature, winning individuals is quite an impressive feat in itself. By all accounts, Crosby's maturity has been on the rise meteorically from last season.

Kudos to both coaches, I'll leave it at that. :p

(Edit: Another win by the Canucks tonight :p, but I see the Penguins won too. Something has just dawned on me. We seem to be the surprise teams of each conference, with completely different teams. One is noted for defensive and special teams play, while is the other is headlined by offensive stars. Both in the top 4 in their respective conferences, when both were expected by many to be out of the top 8. Interesting? I think so!)

(Second Edit: I've seen one game on an FSN feed, and I pray that I'll never have to do it again. North of the 49th, we (In particular, us Westerners) have to deal with an Eastern bias. The Toronto Maple Leafs literally play one game every saturday night (For as long as, well, ever), and it is always shown on Hockey Night in Canada. HNIC is more likely to show two Eastern games than our very own home team for the people watching out west. This is the only reason I get to see the odd Penguins and Capitals game. To top it all off, the Canucks might have 5 games shown all year in HD, while the Leafs have something like 34, and counting.)

Grundlefield Earth Feb 23, 2007 02:19 AM

Weak brawl? I fail to see that. Well unless you are going by ESPN highlghts or something. Anyway all in all GOTY right there. Without a doubt. Game was phenomenal even without it.

Oh yeah and I like how the Sabres are down 8 starters now.

Dopefish Feb 23, 2007 02:41 AM

When I hear the word "brawl," I think of at least 2 rounds of fighting between multiple interested parties. Lindy Ruff overreacted on the hit and the Sens were obviously not interested in fighting all that much. Ray Emery was just goofing off, which would have been REALLY funny if Peters had let him have it.

The game itself was pretty good though.

Grundlefield Earth Feb 23, 2007 03:23 AM

How did he overreact? 1. Neil, who is known for dirty shit, went after the captain of the team a second or two after he let go of the puck. It may have been clean, but that has nothing to do with it. If Neil has a problem you go after another enforcer not Drury.

You have to realize that this was overdue as well from last years connolly hit from Neil I believe, and the fact that the sabres just lost 6 guys in 6 straight games.

I need to get Jennerettes call of the brawl, the stupid FSN announcers are on You tube, but it ain't the same at all.

Dopefish Feb 23, 2007 11:02 AM

It was ALMOST late, but whatever. Can't argue with a homer.

Wojo Feb 23, 2007 01:43 PM

Main thing is if Drury is ok after that. I only saw a couple clips from this morning so I didnt see if he went back to playing again. I can say that I laughed pretty hard when I saw Lindy Ruff climb on top of the glass or whatever and fell down.

In other news LOL RONZ YOU GUYS HAVE ANSON CARTER NOW.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=197340&hubname=nhl

However 8th rounder isnt a bad deal at all for a rental player.

Niekon Feb 23, 2007 02:06 PM

trade deadline fast approaching and Anaheim trades some AHL player to Dallas for what? Future considerations? Frustration has got to be coming from other Anaheim fans than myself over their performance in the past couple of months... and Burke is dinking around with these farm team trades when they should be looking at some players that could help to shore up their lack of offense and defense lately. >_<

Wojo Feb 23, 2007 02:32 PM

That AHL player sucks so bad too. Shane Endicott. I thank god our GM bought out his contract at the beginning of this season. Hes worthless.

Dopefish Feb 23, 2007 02:38 PM

Rumors are flying fast and furious. Boyes from Boston to Pittsburgh, Laraque from Edmonton to Pittsburgh...

Frankly, I'd go on both of them, obviously only if they're upgrades.

Wojo Feb 23, 2007 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dopefish (Post 398570)
Laraque from PHOENIX to Pittsburgh...

Fixed.

Also I heard the Coyotes might add Boynton in the deal as well. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

Dopefish Feb 23, 2007 03:29 PM

If the Penguins can get away with trading for those three guys without giving up Whitney or Christensen (or anyone else that's better) it'll be a miracle and a steal.

YO PITTSBURGH MIKE HERE Feb 23, 2007 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Wojo (Post 398025)
Speaking of dog shit, the FSN feeds from the South are exactly that, dog shit. It's like they have no idea what contrast is. I just noticed tonight and other nights how games in Florida are televised with such a dark contrast, I feel like I have glaucoma.

In Tampa, I think the lighting in the arena just blows. Players are always saying it's the worst arena to play at in the NHL. I'm not sure if it's the same thing in Florida, but that was terrible watching that game last night. Well, maybe not that terrible, but it was pretty damn annoying.

Grundlefield Earth Feb 23, 2007 05:23 PM

Well, Wojo he had to have 20 stiches in his forehead, and has a minor concussion so it will be like 3-5 games most likely. At least thats what the radio said. Amercks vs Sens saturday will still be a good game though

Little Brenty Brent Brent Feb 23, 2007 06:17 PM

Neil's never had a reputation as a dirty hitter. He throws hits and drops the gloves, but he's no Lemieux.

Hitting another team's star player has been the only way to get the team's attention since the stupid instigator rule went in. It's what everyone does.

No. Hard Pass. Feb 23, 2007 06:39 PM

The only thing I have to say about the whole Ottawa/Buffalo debaucle is this:

Ray Emery > Biron
Ray Emery > Peters
Ray Emery > Life itself

I don't even fucking like Ottawa, but that smirk on his face during the whole thing was made of pure goddamn win.

Grundlefield Earth Feb 23, 2007 06:40 PM

everyone huh

Little Brenty Brent Brent Feb 23, 2007 06:46 PM

If you can name me a star player who wasn't crushed at least once, go for it. Otherwise, yeah. Star players are still hockey players, and they get hit just like everyone else does. Of course a team is gonna try to nail one to take them off their game. That's hockey.

I heard OLN is broadcasting poker afterwards if that's more your style.

No. Hard Pass. Feb 23, 2007 06:49 PM

I'm siding with Brent here. The hit wasn't especially high, Drury isn't an especially soft player, and he was watching his fucking pass. He desrved that shot. Also, Neil doesn't have a rep as a dirty player, he has a rep as a tough player. Seriously, BZ. Climb off your fanwagon and try a little bit of objectivity. It was a good hit.

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Originally Posted by Brent (Post 398760)
I heard OLN is broadcasting poker afterwards if that's more your style.

^5

Little Brenty Brent Brent Feb 23, 2007 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BZ (Post 398748)
everyone huh

Also, maybe you missed the part, oh, five minutes after, where your coach put on a bunch of tough guys trying to pick fights with like Spezza.

That's right. Everyone.

Dopefish Feb 23, 2007 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent (Post 398778)
Also, maybe you missed the part, oh, five minutes after, where your coach put on a bunch of tough guys trying to pick fights with like Spezza.

That's right. Everyone.

Yeah, funny you mention that -- I didn't even think about it. Shouldn't the Sabres been handed 6 instigator penalties, since it was in retaliation and the Senators weren't really interested for the most part (Mair and Emery the obvious exceptions)?

http://www.nhl.com/rules/rule56.html

I guess the rule is a little vague and poorly enforced as it is.

Grundlefield Earth Feb 24, 2007 01:59 AM

Why is that guy responding twice?

Oh and looks like GFF is against most analysts opinions, but whatever too many non-objective nerds here. Also Den, wtf, I already explained the situation to you in gfchat, why are you rambling again in here.

Additional Spam:
Quote:

Following is the text of an official letter that was sent by Buffalo
Sabres owner B. Thomas Golisano to NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman today.


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Gary B. Bettman, Commissioner,
National Hockey League,
1251 Avenue of the Americas, 47th Floor
New York, NY 10020

February 24, 2007

Dear Gary,

I am deeply concerned with the standard the NHL has adopted that seems
to allow violent hits to the head.

In light of the most recent injury to our captain Chris Drury, I am
calling on you to address this issue immediately before another player
is seriously injured or worse.

In our recent game with the Ottawa Senators, an opposing player skated
half the width of the ice surface, approached Chris Drury from his blind
side, and delivered a blow to his head which dislodged his helmet,
severely lacerating the area around his eye causing a concussion. Chris
Drury did not have the puck, he was not able to see the player coming
from behind, and had relaxed his guard. The player in question was aware
his presence was undetected but chose to deliver a vicious blow, which
can only be construed as intent to injure.

Hitting is a very important part of our game. You hit to break up a
shot, you hit to disrupt a pass, you hit to battle for the puck and you
hit to gain position for a defensive or offensive play. There are many
times a player is vulnerable. And there are many times when a player can
make a hit on a vulnerable player but chooses not to for fear of
injuring an opponent for no practical advantage. It's called respect.

What we cannot allow are hits that are designed to injure and maim. The
hit delivered to Chris Drury the other night was a hit to injure. In my
view there is no other way to view that play.

As you know, we have been on the other end of hits which cause injury to
the head. Tim Connolly, our star offensive player was knocked out of the
Stanley Cup by this same team. Although I didn't like it, Tim's
situation is very different. He had the puck; he was making a play and
could have reasonably seen the approaching player. I never complained.

This situation is very different.

Your office informed our team today that the hit on Chris Drury was a
legal hit and that it fit within the standard of play acceptable to the
NHL. We do not think this should be the standard and we do not think it
helps our game or the league. There is nothing manly about hitting a
player that can't see you. There is nothing entertaining about a big man
hitting a smaller man in the head. There is nothing good to come of a
policy that allows exciting skilled players to be targets for what I
believe to be predatory play.

I strongly urge you to convene the appropriate forum to immediately
review this policy.

Sincerely,

B. Thomas Golisano,

Governor
Please do.


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