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SemperFidelis Apr 22, 2006 09:33 PM

I only played Silent Hill on the playstation. Remember the random signs and maps on the streets?

SemperFidelis Apr 22, 2006 09:41 PM

I trivial detail I eyed in the movie that was actually part of the game, but it doesn't matter much.

jouhou Apr 22, 2006 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurado
I found a movie poster for this earlier. Looks pretty realistic to me.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9...03928710qs.jpg

heheh, someone add an elf and a dwarf.

SemperFidelis Apr 22, 2006 10:03 PM

yeah it's been a while since I played silent hill on the playstation. Probably around 2000. However, it doesn't take away the fact that the movie was sacrilege to silent hill fans.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 22, 2006 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SemperFidelis
I think Final Fantasy Tactics had a very intricate and involved plot. Plenty of character development, events common to the time, and a gripping storyline. I think it'd be an amazing idea if they made a Final Fantasy Tactics movie and FOLLOW the FUCKING GAME as the script.

You embody everything that is wrong with the internet.

SketchTheArtist Apr 22, 2006 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SemperFidelis
yeah it's been a while since I played silent hill on the playstation. Probably around 2000. However, it doesn't take away the fact that the movie was sacrilege to silent hill fans.

How can you say that when you only played the first one a few years ago and barely remember it. You're a farce.

SemperFidelis Apr 22, 2006 10:29 PM

Well, I'm vague on the details, but I remember loving the game. And I'm sorry if you took offense to my comments. I'm doubly sorry if you enjoyed the movie.

SketchTheArtist Apr 22, 2006 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SemperFidelis
Well, I'm vague on the details, but I remember loving the game. And I'm sorry if you took offense to my comments. I'm doubly sorry if you enjoyed the movie.

I didn't take offense in your comments, I just think you poorly executed your 'opinion'.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 22, 2006 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SemperFidelis
I'm doubly sorry if you enjoyed the movie.

I'm sorry you have the IQ of a retard who had his brains dashed out on some rocks but I don't disagree with your fate.

dagget Apr 22, 2006 10:50 PM

I thought Mr. Marine there was gone for good. I was wrong. :(

Dr. Uzuki Apr 23, 2006 12:27 AM

My thoughts on the film. Cons out of the way first. Dialogue was serviceable, but I didn't find it cheesy. Acting was around the same level, in spots, it could be bad. Rose and Cybil have no chemistry. The little girl actress needed less lines.

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When Rose was being filled in on the backstory, if they really couldn't of found another way to fit this information in, they could of done without a voice over and let Alyssa show Rose what happened via full flashbacks.


And that's it. Other than that, the film was great. It was directed well, it looked amazing, was paced well, it was tense, it was subtle, it was detailed. And unlike some who are a little miffed about certain switch ups, I think the adaptation of the plot was handled spectacularly.

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It makes the themes and overtones of the film stronger to make the cult god fearing in the more traditional way. It really does add a layer and a half to have them stuck in a hell of there own making, the devil of that world holding the power over that world instead of the god they call upon to save them, and seemingly, the devil is right in her cause.

This was such a change for the better over birthing a dark god via a child through ritual.

I thought the finale was amazing. It was a sight to behold.


All in all, what this movie is really about, the imagery and the atmosphere, that's delivered in spades. The rest of the trappings have there problems here and there, but are not near as bad as some are making it out to be. I'd give it a letter grade of B. I can see myself heading to the theater to see it a second time.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 23, 2006 12:37 AM

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I thought the finale was amazing. It was a sight to behold.

Totally awesome / Pure ninja gold?

I have to disagree on the subtlety thing. Silent Hill was the furthest thing from subtle.

JazzFlight Apr 23, 2006 12:44 AM

I do think that a great addition to the finale would have been:

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...the cult members who were running towards the front door to have escaped, only to meet Pyramid Head and dozens of the different armless acid-spitting monsters from before.

Basically, I felt the finale had too many humans, and no monsters. I don't consider rape tentacles/barbed wire to be a Silent Hill monster.

Wall Feces Apr 23, 2006 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JazzFlight
I do think that a great addition to the finale would have been:

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...the cult members who were running towards the front door to have escaped, only to meet Pyramid Head and dozens of the different armless acid-spitting monsters from before.

Agreed. Would have been much cooler that way. I was expecting that to happen and it didn't. Oh well, I was pleased either way.

Dr. Uzuki Apr 23, 2006 01:01 AM

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I'm not praising the ending because of its graphic nature, but it was exactly what the film needed to close the book. A reckoning. The image of a disfigured child wielding barb wire like angel wings from a hospital bed is a place not a lot of filmmakers or studios would go. Watching the few who had a fearful respect of Alyssa bold open eyed at the massacre unfolding, terrified at who would be their savior, it was compelling stuff.


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I have to disagree on the subtlety thing. Silent Hill was the furthest thing from subtle.

Er, well, I guess you caught me throwing adjectives at the wall to see what would stick. Yeah, it wasn't subtle, but it did have a few nice touches.

kupomog Apr 23, 2006 03:14 AM

Not much surprise in my thoughts on the movie here. I pretty much completely agree with what SOLDIER said.

Everything from the moment Rose stepped into Silent Hill 'til the "congratulations" crap was utterly great. I ended up liking Cybil more than Rose, I think...too bad about what happens. Really didn't like that scene, felt unnecessary, and it just sucked to see that happen to her.

I think I laughed at some inappropriate times in the theater :x Like almost any time a monster appeared, I let out a chuckled. I don't know if it was just a nervous habit or what...my mom did the same. I was hoping the movie would be a little more...scary. But for the parts that were in the movie, I definitely felt a sense of anxiety for Rose to get away (or just for her to get her ass moving, what's with standing and watching The Janitor for however long she did before even attempting to escape?).

I wish they would've saved that flashback stuff for Chris to find or something...it was just so awkward with the way they handled it. I wanted to say "what the hell is this...?" while it was going on.

Anyway, I still would definitely like to go see this movie again. I did actually like it regardless of pretty much hating everything that happened in the end at the church. Easily my favorite video game to movie adaptation. It's not perfect, but it's just good enough for me. The atmosphere, the monsters (my mom immediately mentioned "Thriller" when those nurses started walking)...makes me want to play the first 3 games again.

Dr. Uzuki Apr 23, 2006 05:01 AM

Okay, I have to ask, what's the joke I'm missing? What's to laugh at in this film? I don't see how the subject matter or execution was so obviously unintentionally hilarious. I was in a full theater. There was no one chuckling. How is lack of both maturity and the willingness to suspend your disbelief for fantastical premise the fault of the film and not the audience?

An imdb poster put this quite well.

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There's kind of a Catch-22 going on in terms of complaints with the movie. On one hand, people are saying that the film was too long and "drawn out." On the other hand, people criticize the movie for lacking vital elements of the video game, demanding more "character development"(which, of course, would have lengthened the movie).

Both arguements are entirely unreasonable. The people who couldn't sit still through a 2 hour movie shouldn't have come in the first place. These are generally the type of guys who pay $15 to see an 80-minute zombie gore splash and yell "Sweet" at every execution scene. And the guys who're complaining about missing aspects of the game; what exactly are you expecting? No person can shove the content of 3 or 4 games into the span of 2 hours, and I think the director did a great job creating a vivid storyline and a entrancing world. There was absolutely nothing confusing about what happened in the movie. As an outsider, I can attest to the lucidity of the plot.

OmagnusPrime Apr 23, 2006 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JazzFlight
I do think that a great addition to the finale would have been:

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...the cult members who were running towards the front door to have escaped, only to meet Pyramid Head and dozens of the different armless acid-spitting monsters from before.

Very much agreed, as this was exactly what I was expecting to happen. Sadly it didn't, but yeah, the ending worked as it was.

Aardark Apr 23, 2006 06:10 AM

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Care to name a couple?

Discworld Noir, Grandia, Shenmue, Grim Fandango, Metal Gear Solid, Leisure Suit Larry, Psyhconauts.

Also Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3 on NES...

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Main characters HAVE to be static. A player has to be able to emote themselves through the character - otherwise you're just watching something. You can't play a game where the player is Jack Nance in Eraserhead though I'd love to see the attempt.
Yes, I am just watching something. The games that I like mostly have pretty strict plot boundaries; I don't have much freedom at all. I prefer it that way, and that's also probably why I prefer console RPGs over PC ones (though Planescape: Torment and Fallout are great). I don't need my games to be terribly intricate, I don't want them to be my second life where I make my own choices. It's more fun to just follow an interesting story for a couple of hours, with higher level of interactivity than if I were to just watch a movie.

kupomog Apr 23, 2006 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Uzuki
Okay, I have to ask, what's the joke I'm missing? What's to laugh at in this film? I don't see how the subject matter or execution was so obviously unintentionally hilarious. I was in a full theater. There was no one chuckling. How is lack of both maturity and the willingness to suspend your disbelief for fantastical premise the fault of the film and not the audience?

Jeez, I wasn't meaning that I was laughing because something was so horribly executed that I found it to be laughable. I'm very much willing to suspend my disbelief, otherwise I wouldn't play any video games, let alone something like Silent Hill. It wasn't about things being unintentionally funny, or about things being the film's "fault." It's not like I started cackling when Christabella got her's. There's a reason I say it was inappropriate to laugh, the things happening on screen usually weren't funny, but I still couldn't help chuckling a bit...why? I don't know. Some stuff the whole audience laughed at which I thought were supposed to be funny, like the timing of "Ring of Fire" with its lyrics about things burning, Cybil's WTF reaction in the school, Sharon and Cybil at the gas station...and for some reason a lot of people laughed when Anna came pouncing through the whole in the wall of the hotel. The only other times (the inappropriate times) I and some other people laughed were when recognizable monster appeared, and for me, it was like a combination of "oh shit there's a monster..." nervous chuckle and "damn, that's so perfect" appreciative laugh. I did the same thing when I played SH2 for the first time and I ran into Pyramid Head in that underground cavern thing and he scared the living daylights out of me.

When I said I hoped it'd be more scary, I wasn't coupling that with the laughing. I just meant I wished (or maybe expected) there were more moments of uncomfortable atmosphere, tension, etc. I just didn't feel a huge sense of urgency or anxiety at any given point, but like I already said, I thought that what was in there was pulled off wonderfully, so it doesn't bug me that the movie didn't creep me out as much as the games did because ultimately, I enjoyed it.

makura Apr 23, 2006 07:54 AM

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I loved that uncomfortable scene where Rose pulled the thing out of the Janitor's mouth. I wished to see some more scenes of that.
I remember seeing some scans of Pyramid head holding a skinless, bloody body. Would have been cool if he was dragging that corpse around.
Instead of the white "congratulations" scene and old film quality flashback, they could have at least done it with ghost characters like in SH1's flashbacks of Alessa's past.
Also, it was so predictable that that single drop of Rose's blood from the knife would cause all hell to break loose. They should have let her bleed a bit more as if she really died, and then let the puddle of blood to transform the place into hell.
And I agree with everyone that they should have brought back Pyramid Head and gang to slaughter everyone slowly, Hellraiser style. Seeing people getting hacked is sicker than just blowing up into a bloody mist.


EDIT BY JAZZFLIGHT: Added spoiler box.

Grail Apr 23, 2006 09:07 AM

Striped, buddy, there are things called spoiler tags...I'm sure people that haven't seen the movie yet might want you to use em. Just common courtesy.


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