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Dizzy Oct 16, 2006 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vash
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Over all a great game, if FF12 can top this game's visuals I'll be very impressed and surprised.

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Well, it doesn't. FFXII has great graphics, but cannot be compared to the beauty of VP2. Characters are less detailed and cities look more "opaque" since they don't have many "light effects". The "impressive" part of FFXII is that cities are REALLY huge, and they look chaotic with all the people around.
After playing VP2, I cannot be surprised by anything that comes from Ps2. That game really put the console to it's limits.

Xellos Oct 16, 2006 10:57 AM

Guys do you know if all these sealstone stack?

For example the ones that raise RDM

RDM +120%
RDM +200%/disable menu
RDM +200%/-25% attack.

Do all of them stack or not? I have all 3 equiped at the moment and i can't really tell a difference.

Spatula Oct 16, 2006 01:34 PM

Hey, you know what I missed out on since reading the first few posts of this thread? Object reading. Was this action only preformed in the cutscenes to locate the dragon orb, or were there actual items you could get Alicia/Silmberia to check up on? Perhaps it was only those blue "help/tutorial" spheres. ;__;

Single Elbow Oct 16, 2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SILBER-4
Yes, I think the Einherjars you get for any new game are random. I keep hearing this Adonis guy, but I don't have him in my party, and I searched his "home dungeon" twice to be sure.


If you got Falx, you won't be getting Adonis.

Also rearing at Chapter 4. What the hell man, I need green runes!

Spatula Oct 16, 2006 07:09 PM

You get tons of green items in chapter 5, don't you worry.

Lionking-Cyan Oct 17, 2006 09:30 AM

Since many people say that this is one of the best ps2 rpg (if not the beast at this time), and that it doesn't matter if you begin with vp1 or vp2, i decided to begin with the worse (vp1), to move to vp2. So, do you know where i can find a new cheap original copy of vp1?

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Oct 17, 2006 09:34 AM

Valkyrie Profile worse than Silmeria. Ahahaha.

Lionking-Cyan Oct 17, 2006 09:45 AM

Mine is a supposition. Infact, if people say that vp2 is the actual best ps2 rpg, and the FACT that vp1 is not the psx best rpg, i tought that vp2 would be better than vp1.
Correct me if i'm wrong :) .

Xellos Oct 17, 2006 10:04 AM

I needed a good laugh. Thanks!

And good luck finding a copy of VP that is cheap.

Lionking-Cyan Oct 17, 2006 10:43 AM

So, are you saying that vp1 is better than vp2 too?
Anyway, i guess that you laughed so hard that you did shit in your pants...unless that is something you usually do ^^.

Black Mage Oct 17, 2006 12:17 PM

What? Valkyrie Profile is the best PSX RPG. Oh, opinions.

Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria is a fine game, but I can't imagine it being anywhere near as enjoybale without having played (and loved) the original Valkyrie Profile. And even with that gained enjoyment, it still falls short of surpassing the original.

Really now, judging games without playing them really isn't a great idea.

Single Elbow Oct 17, 2006 02:38 PM

They're both great on different grounds, so I do not see the reason why one is superior than the other.

Anyway, still the Palace thing. Still great with the Pig + Friend Law. With the Dragon Zombie.

By the way, where can I get ingredients for a Shiny Rupture?

Forsety Oct 17, 2006 03:59 PM

I think both games are different enough that comparing them is pretty silly. They both offer enough of a unique experience from one another that both are worth playing on their own merits.

There are plenty of things in VP2 I like more than the original, and vice versa. They are both great games and for once I didn't get the feeling that the sequel was disappointing compared to the original.

Dizzy Oct 17, 2006 04:15 PM

But you know, people will never be satisfied. If a game is successful and you really really love it, the sequel will never be like the original. Like Chrono Cross for example which was an outstanding game, but people kept saying it was crap, just because chrono wasn't a playable character.

I loved VP2 and it's the best rpg i've played so far in ps2 (i bought it like 3 months ago). It felt kinda shot in story, but the gameplay kept me playing. VP1 had bad things too like that damn lag when you try to jump.

It looks like people can't stand that a game can be up to the original (not necessarily better, but at least a good sequel). They force themselves to find defects so the original can still be a classic (this also applies to movies).

Antignition Oct 17, 2006 05:54 PM

Oh snap, my :tpg: face was deleted or something, well here it is again.


Don't turn this thread into a "which game is better thread", go to GameFAQs for that crap please.

Dylan Spoiler (End of Chapter 4)
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Still want to know what happened to the original Dylan before Brahms fused with him though, answer me THAT

Dizzy Oct 17, 2006 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Antignition
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Dylan Spoiler (End of Chapter 4)
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Still want to know what happened to the original Dylan before Brahms fused with him though, answer me THAT

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You'll have to use your imagination. That's the beauty of the game :edgartpg:

Single Elbow Oct 17, 2006 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Antignition
Oh snap, my :tpg: face was deleted or something, well here it is again.


Don't turn this thread into a "which game is better thread", go to GameFAQs for that crap please.

Dylan Spoiler (End of Chapter 4)
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Still want to know what happened to the original Dylan before Brahms fused with him though, answer me THAT

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I'm speculating that Dylan is actually Brahms or some sort, hiding. Probably Dylan was all just a hoax and it was Brahms all along. MAYBE :tpg:

Lionking-Cyan Oct 18, 2006 05:08 AM

I didn't jump to conclusions. I wanted to know your opinion.

Xellos Oct 18, 2006 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Terminus
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I'm speculating that Dylan is actually Brahms or some sort, hiding. Probably Dylan was all just a hoax and it was Brahms all along. MAYBE :tpg:

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I think that the Dylan you see in this game is Brahms all along. He like hijacked his body long long ago. I don't think we actually ever saw the real Dylan. He knows all the stuff of Brahms, and that vampire in the forest knew it was him as well.

I do think there was a actual Dylan in the past. I don't think it's just all made up.

Spatula Oct 18, 2006 04:17 PM

Looks like I'm stuck in the Hall of Valhalla.

I'm 93% done the map, however there's one seal left that I have to pass, and it's with a jar that's sitting in the middle of the hallway. If I move it, it slides back to it's original spot horizontally. There is only one of them. I've neutralized the other two seals, and this is the last one. How do I go about doing this?

Forsety Oct 18, 2006 04:23 PM

You might be talking about the one which has a second, er, "jar" in the same room but high up in the air. You need to go up and during a horizontal walkway look to the left and see it floating right next to the fencing of the walkway in midair. Ride it down and the rest should be obvious.

Spatula Oct 18, 2006 04:28 PM

Thank you very much, I have missed that "jar", which I got that term from Gamefaqs, which it's explanation did not help me at all initially. Again, thank you.

Antignition Oct 18, 2006 07:05 PM

Dylan Spoiler (Chapter 6)
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Brahms mentions, during the process Alicia would undergo to become a Valkyrie, that Brahms fused with a man named Dylan a while back, it is also mentioned in Brahms's background that he was wounded and merged with one of Silmeria's einherjar, a man named Dylan.

So yes, there definitely *was* an original Dylan before Brahms. Basically I'm just pointing out that there is a definitely cliffhanger as to what happened to the original einherjar Dylan before Brahms was wounded and merged with him.

My theory is: Dylan was the dominant soul until chapter 4, when Brahms became the dominant, *but* Dylan is still very much present inside Brahms.

Spatula Oct 18, 2006 08:34 PM

I have just started chapter 6.

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Are Hrist and Brahms good characters to use? I find Hrist lacking in attack power, even if I equip her with the Valkyrie Favor, and Brahms cannot have any other weapons besides gauntlets, which hinders his true fighting potential.

Prinnydood Oct 18, 2006 09:50 PM

Well I just beat the game and rather enjoyed it. I thought the story got slightly off track towards the end but I thought it did a fairly good job of keeping me entertained regardless.

Anyway, I'm planning to do the Seraphic Gate on this file (I opened it before I fought the last boss) and was wondering where exactly I should level up. Alicia's on lvl 73, Rufus is on 83, and I've got Falx and Phyress both around 65 or so..is the SG the best place to level now?


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