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Spatula Mar 24, 2006 12:19 AM

Sure these things look cool, but by god I sure hope they include a skip button. God...WAYYYY too long summon sequence if there won't be a skip option.

Inhert Mar 24, 2006 01:40 AM

what youthink the 10sec invocation (that is the same for every summon) is too long?....

btw the invocation in those video is just the last thing you see (when you see ashe with a circle on the ground) before that it's just before the fight and when you have killed him (i'm not sure if you really have to fight them) but when you see the crystal thing, it's just when you got not when you summon him.

the thing that can be long is when they do they special attack (that htey do only when they are leaving) but meh I really don't care I like that (I was and still am a fan of all the G-force in FFVIII)

Simo Mar 24, 2006 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kensaki
The big question is will Vaan dump her for Ashe?(Don't ansver that) If so I'll be very dissepointed. Give us one FF without the two focal characters in the story have to end up as a couple...

Then again this is a Japanese game so meh.

Impressions make it sound like Vaan isn't even the main or focal character for the story. Sure he's there to drive it along but he's not the lead like Tidus, Squall, Cloud and other past male leads.

Overall though I've heard nothing but great things about the story. No JRPG cliche plot point or revelation and all the characters being fleshed out and character interactions well written along with the plot. Somebody basically compared that aspect like the Fantasy version of Metal Gear Solid and as for being "Dark", well if you mean mature, gritty and serious then yeah that's all FFXII main plot is about. :)

Hello_Kitty Mar 24, 2006 07:16 AM

BEST PIC EVER

sneaking under Ashe's skirt

http://pix.nofrag.com/bd/1c/602e58d6...654502babe.jpg

Inhert Mar 24, 2006 07:24 AM

lol at the pic >.> it hard too see but it seem ashe has nothing under her short(? well it look more like a skirt no? really short skirt XD)

oh and btw nice sig ^^

Hello_Kitty Mar 24, 2006 07:34 AM

it's a skirt yep, thx for the sig and yes it seems she isnt wearing anything which makes this FF the best ever !! ^^

i don't really like Fran's style much though... hope her personality in the game is better

Spatula Mar 24, 2006 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Inhert

btw the invocation in those video is just the last thing you see (when you see ashe with a circle on the ground) before that it's just before the fight and when you have killed him (i'm not sure if you really have to fight them) but when you see the crystal thing, it's just when you got not when you summon him.


Oh I see. Yeah I figured it out after watching a few more times. It makes sense now. So it's when they first meet up with a summon, then the long ass cutscene shows.

CuteChocobo Mar 24, 2006 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hello_Kitty
i don't really like Fran's style much though... hope her personality in the game is better

Fraya from FFIX... is somewhat related to Fran... *IMO*

Anyway, i have started doing translation on FFXII accessories, weapons, and other stuff... do them count as spoilers if I post them here? Or else I will be posting them on the [spoiler] section.

Simo Mar 24, 2006 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CuteChocobo
Fraya from FFIX... is somewhat related to Fran... *IMO*

Anyway, i have started doing translation on FFXII accessories, weapons, and other stuff... do them count as spoilers if I post them here? Or else I will be posting them on the [spoiler] section.

Aye. It might be best for those to be in the [Spoiler] thread to be on the safe side. :)

Hello_Kitty Mar 24, 2006 11:25 AM

Simo > Do you have your avatar artwork in full size ? I like that pic and i tried finding it yesterday in some FF websites but no chance, no one had it...

Simo Mar 24, 2006 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hello_Kitty
Simo > Do you have your avatar artwork in full size ? I like that pic and i tried finding it yesterday in some FF websites but no chance, no one had it...

I used to have it because it was on Square Enix's official website but then they removed it and replaced it with the Judges. :(

Spatula Mar 25, 2006 02:37 AM

This might have spoiler material, but I don't want to post this in the SPOILER FFXII thread, since I don't want to inadvertantly read some of the spoils there (since spoil tags aren't necessary).

But this is regarding the airship:

FLY AWAY YOU SKY PIRATE ARRRRRRRRRGGHHHH!!!!:
So in FFXII does Vaan and the gang eventually get their own little ship like in most of the other FFs? I mean he "dreamt to be a great sky pirate" or something cheesy like that. But most of all, can you CONTROL your own ship? I hated the navigation system in X where you just said where you wanted to go but didn't have any control. Part of the fun was flying around in your Falcon/Highwind/Ragnarok sorta deal in the previous FF installments.

Technophile Mar 25, 2006 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Spatula
Oh I see. Yeah I figured it out after watching a few more times. It makes sense now. So it's when they first meet up with a summon, then the long ass cutscene shows.


I actually like watching those lengthy summon scenes. VIII's summons really didn't bother me much. They were always a treat to view. I think FFIX had it best though, where you can choose if you wanted the lengthy version or the condensced one.

Anyway, while FFXII's isn't as long as I'd like it to be, the two summons in the demo had an over the top major attack so it's fine.

Spatula Mar 25, 2006 04:29 PM

VIII was a treat to view the first 5 times. seriously. And it became annoying in fights where a time limit was a factor. Dammit, Odin.

EDIT:

Here's a nice article on Japan's sales of FFXII.

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Originally Posted by gamespy

Final Fantasy XII tops Japanese sales charts (PS2)
As expected, Final Fantasy XII debuted on Japanese sales charts at number one.
By GameSpy Staff | March 24, 2006

Square-Enix's highly anticipated Final Fantasy XII dominated Japanese sales charts for the week ending March 19, debuting at number one with 1,764,266 units sold. The figure comes close to matching the 1.8 million first week sales of Final Fantasy X. Final Fantasy XII is set for a North American release in Q4 of this year.

The second highest selling game was Animal Crossing Wild World for the Nintendo DS, with 70,932 sales, and over 2 million total units sold thus far. The sales rankings continue with More DS Brain Training at number 3 with 67,222 sales, English Training DS at number 4 with 39,940 sales, and Prof. Kawashima's Brain Training: How old is your brain? at number 5 with 39,718 sales. In total, the Brain Training series of games have sold nearly four million copies.

With such strong sales in Japan, it will be interesting to see how well the Brain Training series does in the states. The first North American version of the game, Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a day will be released on April 17, with Big Brain Academy following up shortly thereafter on June 5.
Japanese Sales Figures - Week Ending March 19

Final Fantasy XII (PS2) - 1.764.266 - (1.764.266)

Animal Crossing : Wild World (NDS) - 70.932 - (2.187.805)

More DS Brain Training (NDS) - 67.222 - (1.571.729)

English Training DS (NDS) - 39.940 - (656.746)

Prof. Kawashima's Brain Training : How old is your brain ? (NDS) - 39.718 - (1.722.597)

Samurai Warriors 2 (PS2) - 25.295 - (498.872)

Mario Kart DS (NDS) - 17.928 - (1.189.109)

Seiken Densetsu DS: Children of Mana (NDS) - 17.574 - (146.700)

Guitar Freaks V and Drum Mania V (PS2) - 17.520 - (17.520)

Keroro Gunso (NDS) - 15.650 - (15.650)

I'm sorta surprised it didn't quite top over X, since I've XII on the number one spot for "most wanted PS2 game in Japan" for the longest time on Magicbox.

It's still good sales though.

Reveirg Mar 25, 2006 10:24 PM

You have to keep in mind that the game came out on March 16, and those sales figures were for the week ending on March 19. In other words, those sales are for 3 days only. Besides, 1.76 million for 2 million copies shipped is damn impressive.

I'm expecting this game to ultimately surpass FFX's total sales.

Spatula Mar 25, 2006 11:10 PM

Alright, I generally hate these sorts of statistics that pop up all over the place but I mind as well put it here for statistics sakes.

1,760,000 copies sold in 3 days

586,666 copies sold in 24 hours

24,444 copies sold in an hour

407 copies sold in a minute

~7 copies sold every second

Of course these numbers are totally off, but marketers love to put these "averages" out even though they don't mean much.

No stores are open at like 3 AM (maybe the release night in some places like Shibuya and Akiba) to sell 5000 some copies.

Soldier Mar 26, 2006 01:27 AM

Didn't FFVII sell 2 million copies in just 2 days?

Spatula Mar 26, 2006 03:42 AM

Moar Sauce plz, SOLDIER.

Soldier Mar 26, 2006 04:07 AM

I remember an article in GameFan (great magazine that soon turned to crap and died) spending a whole paragraph talking about it. They were amazed, I was amazed, that whole magazine had the best FFVII articles.

They also gave the game a score of 100++. Over-hyped? Yeah, but back then I believed it.

CuteChocobo Mar 26, 2006 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spatula
But this is regarding the airship:

FLY AWAY YOU SKY PIRATE ARRRRRRRRRGGHHHH!!!!:
So in FFXII does Vaan and the gang eventually get their own little ship like in most of the other FFs? I mean he "dreamt to be a great sky pirate" or something cheesy like that. But most of all, can you CONTROL your own ship? I hated the navigation system in X where you just said where you wanted to go but didn't have any control. Part of the fun was flying around in your Falcon/Highwind/Ragnarok sorta deal in the previous FF installments.

not so much a spoiler but meh i like theses sort of tags:
Sorry to disappoint you Spatula, but the airship system is exactly the same as FFX. I guess S-E don't want us flying around the HUGE lands anymore >_<

Simo Mar 26, 2006 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER
I remember an article in GameFan (great magazine that soon turned to crap and died) spending a whole paragraph talking about it. They were amazed, I was amazed, that whole magazine had the best FFVII articles.

They also gave the game a score of 100++. Over-hyped? Yeah, but back then I believed it.

IIRC FFVIII just about topped that with over 1 million copies sold before the game was even released. As it stands though FFVIII has sold more copies in Japan than any other FF title.

Spatula Mar 26, 2006 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CuteChocobo
not so much a spoiler but meh i like theses sort of tags:
Sorry to disappoint you Spatula, but the airship system is exactly the same as FFX. I guess S-E don't want us flying around the HUGE lands anymore >_<

Spoiler:
YOU GOTTA BE FUCKING KIDDING ME. ::fuck I'll NEVER BUY FFXII NOW BECAUSE OF THAT!!!!::


Spoiler:
Tsk Tsk. Well SE is pretty stupid for not including such a thing. I mean you'd know how beautiful the world map would look on a PS2 compared to a PS1? Now I know it'd look like shit if you compare it to even the normal Xbox and stuff. ;_;


Quote:

Originally Posted by Simo
IIRC FFVIII just about topped that with over 1 million copies before the game was even released. As it stands though FFVIII has sold more copies in Japan than any other FF title.

Interesting, how come? FAN SERVICE.

Kensaki Mar 26, 2006 01:56 PM

Spoiler:
So in this game about adventuring as a air pirate you can't even control your airship... Haha even Grandia 3 had worldmap with flying...

Simo Mar 26, 2006 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spatula
Interesting, how come? FAN SERVICE.

Follow up to FFVII which was a worldwide success, not to mention the change in art design by ditching the 'Super Deformed' look for characters with more accurate proportions along with a new battle system probably had something to do with it. :)

Megalith Mar 26, 2006 05:08 PM

It's because FFVIII is the best FF game.


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