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It's people like you that don't give WCW enough credit for being a fucking viable wrestling company that gave a lot back to the industry. Stand behind the entire goddamned industry for once, not a single fucking promotion. |
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Yes, because WCW Fired Austin because they were winning the Monday Night Wars
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What you fail to realize, is that what you're saying actually is true. Without Coca-Cola, Pepsi wouldn't be where it is. Without Pepsi, Coca-Cola wouldn't be where they are. Each of them have aggressively marketed against each other and have literally swamped out brands like RC Cola because of such competition. Remove one or the other from the equation, and a brand like RC Cola might be on top right now. That's how it works. Without WCW, the WWE would not be where they are right now. Without WCW, the WWE has been failing horribly in keeping interesting storylines going while building new stars. The entire attitude era was born solely on the premise to oust WCW, like in the example above with Coca-Cola and Pepsi. The AOL/Time Warner merger is what killed WCW, not industry competition. Only now that TNA has emerged, are they taking a stance on attempting to bring back what was once interesting. This is fact, as much as you'd like to consider it invalid. Quote:
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Don't forget about WCW's wonderful ratings idea by giving the Heavyweight Championship to David Arquette. |
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They went back and forth, did a lot of good and a lot of shit. Again, that's how it works. |
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Another exemple: JBL. If it wasn't for the WWE not wanting those old WWF tag teams like the Hardyz, the Dudleyz, APA, Edge & Christian, he would be a heel title holder for so long. So the disolution of those Tag Teams gave JBL his push, Jeff Hardy his push in TNA etc... So whenever something is gone, someone takes advantage of it. |
Those two examples are good with the exception of a few minor details. Jeff Jarrett in general is the one that basically helped create the TNA brand, and most of his heel gimmick such as him beating people over the head with guitars came about because of WCW. But your last part holds perfectly true, if WCW was still in business there may have been no TNA. Though comparing Jarrett and Austin's popularity is beyond impossible.
JBL like John Cena is one of those weird cases where no one particularly gave a damn about their title runs because they're horrible wrestlers, yet they remained with a job and the title for a good long time. Though JBL in general only became "JBL" because Ron Simmons retired due to internal depushing of the tag team division. |
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Vince thinks this way: Vince=Money Money=Champion Champion=Cena because Cena=Money (guess how many fan bought the Cena T-Shirt or the chains or tuned in to see their little champion rise above all the other wrestlers). So until Cena stopped bringing Vince money, he was still champion. THe second he found that something else is a better money dispenser (ECW), he gave the title to the best ECW guy around. So at the end, it's all about Vince getting rich. |
Why is it the best WWE shows happen in Fayetteville when I'm not there.
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DX is the best thing that happened to RAW since the split of the two brands!!!
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Anyone think we should ditch this 20 page topic in favor of smaller and easier to read topics?
Or at least split the brands like 1 topic for TNA and one for WWE. Anyway, last weeks TNA was pretty good. I was like "holy hell" when Team canada got disbanded. They were jobbing alot, but with a better push, they couldve been a more dominant faction. Canadian destroyer ftw And chrisitian seems to be going into a heel direction lately. I really dont care cause this guy was practically handed the belt. hes been champ for months and on TNA a bit longer, yet Ive only seen him fight twice, and it wasnt that impressive. So Im placing my money on joe to win the fatal fourway and get the belt from jarret. |
Why bother splitting? No one has talked about TNA matches..for like..ever.
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there hasnt been any tna topics, as everything seems to be focused on wwe.
I also dont like skimming through 20 pages just to see if a topic has been covered. If there were individual topics, more can be discussed, but keeping everything in one thread limits discussion cause people are trying to keep up with the events rather than small details which would still be informative. Should there be topics, they wouldnt make a huge difference, but it would be more convenient. Though its just a suggestion. |
With both DX and ECW's return, TNA has been a washout. Apparently, people care more about seeing Triple H moon McMahon or Sandman beat himself in the head with a beer can before a match (fun fun fun) and then legally beat someone with a kendo stick during a match (also fun) than seeing whatever the hell TNA is showing.
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Hey, I liked seeing Sandman beating the hell out of the stripper because it was actually one of the WWE creative writers. Sadly though...who loves the fact that in ECW, there are extreme rule matches...lol....EXTREME Fucking RULE Matches!? WTF...Bring back Jericho...
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I honestly was pissed off when Jeff Jarrett walked out of Slammiversary as champ (well, he was "stripped" of it at the end). but only to have Jim Cornette give him back the title 2 weeks later... Then have 4 (or was it 5) people battle it out at the next PPV, with the winner getting a shot at Jarrett that night, all while Jarrett not even having a match of his own? That's almost as bad (or worse) as the hijinks surrounding Triple H when he had the World title.
ECW needs to get be on it's own as oppsed to having these "interpromotional" matches. ECW doesn't need the like of Edge and John Cena "helping out" and being on TV nor does it need Vince McMahon (and his good-for-nothing WWE creative writing team) in complete control of the show. The hardcore WWE fans really bring down the atmosphere that a real ECW crowd brings to the table. DX brought entertainment where it was really needed. They've pulled some wacky shennanigans since their reformation, and always came away laughing. But of course, the reality is that it won't last forever. Honestly, Vince and Shane really need to get off TV. When was the last time Mr. McMahon made an appearance on Smackdown? And Batista's coming back when? |
Batista, Back this friday.
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WWE Its funny that WWE is making fun of Joe too with Umaga. WWE managed to get Sabu back and there is always a chance they can pull Raven and Rhino back to WWECW. Sandman is partially screwed because Metallica is being a bunch of dickwads and wanting shit loads of money to use that song...its a matter of time before WWE does a cover of the song. People needed to Make ECW really ECW -Raven -Meanie - -Rhino..cmon...the last TV champ and heavyweight champ? -Super Crazy -Rey Rey -Tanaka -Mike "Sellout" Awesome I'm sure that just those few can help the newcomers from OVW and DSW become ECW wrestlers...plus if the house of hardcore was opened up again...that'd be nice. Axl fucked up the thing for the Balls/Axl team because Axl No-showed and thats gay. Unfortunately Lance Storm is no longer going to wrestle so the Impact players are out of the question. I like how they are still making Tommy Dreamer the lover of violence which is good to have back. I've also read reports that Test is fairly impressive in ECW but I wish ECW would have control from only Dreamer and Heyman. |
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