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Casaubon Mar 4, 2006 03:05 PM

Cielo was the only character I didn't like at all. I don't understand why everyone loves him and his 'awesome voice acting'. I didn't find out his story til after I beat the game and I still didn't really like him.

Onyx Mar 4, 2006 04:34 PM

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Cielo was the only character I didn't like at all. I don't understand why everyone loves him and his 'awesome voice acting'. I didn't find out his story til after I beat the game and I still didn't really like him.
Cielo? Awesome voice acting? Man, who actually said that? That's complete bullshit. Cielo has the worst voice I've ever heard in an RPG. That Jamaican thing does not fit at all. It's such a shame because I expected so much more from him, and his character design was probably the best.

ZeroSlash Mar 4, 2006 04:56 PM

My first step in to SMT was Nocturne and I loved it. The amosphere just made the game for me and I loved the subtlity of the story and it was really just about how you handled it not how the characters developed. I'm now at the final dungeon and I just beat the first boss there but I've kinda put it down for now. One interesting point was that I had more trouble with the Matador than Thor.

I picked up DDS1 about when it came out and it was ok at first but then it just felt like I was grinding through it. I just didn't like how the battles were so black and white compared to nocturnes. I like Noctunes battles because you didn't have to fight all of them and get items etc, but after finally beating it I'm now about halfway through DDS2. I'm now at
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Going back to the EGG for sera to talk to God and now I'm dealing with the corupted Heat
and I'm enjoying it a lot more than DDS1 because the characters seem a bit more balanced and the Ring system makes for a nice buffer.

My only other SMT experience is a translated ROM of SMT1 and I'm only about an hour in where you got captured and you team up with the other two heros. My only problem with it is you can't control some demons special moves and negotiating is nerve racking compared to Nocturne. I hope that the upcoming SMT DS game might be a compiliation of the first two games like I heard a rumor some where.

YoMan Mar 4, 2006 05:56 PM

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Cielo? Awesome voice acting? Man, who actually said that? That's complete bullshit. Cielo has the worst voice I've ever heard in an RPG.
Obviously, you haven't played Star Ocean: Till The End of Time. Hear the voice acting of a girl named Farleen, then come back and tell me what is worse, Cielo or Farleen.

Peter Mar 4, 2006 06:26 PM

Zeroslash: That battle is one of the hardest in the goddamn game. I had to train and get quite a lot of high level skills for that one (get Ziodyne, it's a lifesaviour). The scene you get afterwards kicks ass though.

Do you happen to have a link to the translated rom?

The Plane Is A Tiger Mar 4, 2006 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by YoMan
Obviously, you haven't played Star Ocean: Till The End of Time. Hear the voice acting of a girl named Farleen, then come back and tell me what is worse, Cielo or Farleen.

Don't forget... Well, EVERYONE in Popolocrois. I was listening to the voices while my brother played it last week (I don't own the PSP and he was visiting), and that was some of the worst voice acting I've heard.

Casaubon Mar 4, 2006 06:58 PM

Yeah he's not bad when compared to other games, but to me he is compared to the rest of the cast.

And yeah, if anyone has translated roms of SMT1/2 share.

ZeroSlash Mar 5, 2006 01:04 AM

Ceilo is actually one of my favorite characters and I found his voice acting to be pretty entertainingly good. I just wish we could have had a little more exposition on
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his real world self
other than a random scientist giving you two sentinces.

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Originally Posted by Enkidu
Zeroslash: That battle is one of the hardest in the goddamn game. I had to train and get quite a lot of high level skills for that one (get Ziodyne, it's a lifesaviour). The scene you get afterwards kicks ass though.

Do you happen to have a link to the translated rom?

That battle was actually not that hard and I only had a set up of Ceilo using Zionga and Mediarama when needed, Gale using MaZionga to get rid of the arms and Sera using Fire Drain. It was pretty much rinse, lather repeat with that set up.

On the Scene afterward:
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Yeah that scene answered a lot of questions but made a lot more. I still don't quite understand the whole Real and Fake Varna thing. From what I understand it was the good and bad sides of the Real Serph, and I'm getting almost the same vibe from this game as I did from Star Ocean when you find out they're just digital characters to the 4d Beings. Knowing that the main characters are only recreations by Sera only makes it feel like they're insignificant.
Now to just wrap it all up and see how it goes



http://agtp.romhack.net/
This website contains rom patches that translate rom from games they've translated but you still need to find a compatible rom but I don't know how to use patches so I went googling and found this library of roms that had an already patched rom.

http://www.rom-world.com/dl.php?name...o&emulator=yes
It's in there some where. You can search and look for it.

YoMan Mar 5, 2006 04:29 PM

Question in spoiler tags:

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So has anyone tried fighting Lucifer in Nocturne without the pierce skill in either Normal or Hard mode? Post comments, was it hard, easy, time consuming etc etc?

Peter Mar 6, 2006 08:12 AM

Thanks for the links Zeroslash! I never knew that there was a group that translated the roms. Anyway, I've patched the second Shin Megami Tensei game if anyone's interested.

You can get it HERE

Forsety Mar 6, 2006 06:20 PM

Shin Megami Tensei (1+2) crashes randomly in ZSNES just for future reference. You have to play them on snes9x or bsnes to enjoy them without any problems.

ZeroSlash Mar 6, 2006 06:36 PM

Your more than welcome and thank you for the patched version of SMTII.

Off topic: You either need to teach me how to do that or show me a website that can because thier were a lot of other games there I want to play, mainly Super Robot Taisen, that gundam SRPG and Fire Emblem 3 that they were working on.

Edit:

While I'm handing out links, I think this makes for a very good read on how it all started and where it went. I find it very interesting that SMT all started with a Japanese Novel and a Gaunlent rip off.

http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.c...en/megaten.htm

Duminas Mar 6, 2006 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by YoMan
Question in spoiler tags:

Spoiler:
So has anyone tried fighting Lucifer in Nocturne without the pierce skill in either Normal or Hard mode? Post comments, was it hard, easy, time consuming etc etc?

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Tried it and got fairly well massacred.
Without Pierce, I was doing far too little damage to Lucifer, and the longer that battle drags on, the worse off you are due to how ungodly hard he can hit you at times. I died somewhere after 30 minutes to a combo of that really nasty attack that drops everyone by random amounts (name escapes me) and Megidola the next turn.

With Pierce on everyone, I actually managed to win, but then again, Freikugel doing usable amounts of damage helps.

Randomly at Zero, if you just want to play the SRW games, it's not that hard to figure out. I managed quite well with Alpha 2, for example, when I wasn't able to understand the story... but translations would be nice for some parts.

Onyx Mar 6, 2006 09:07 PM

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Obviously, you haven't played Star Ocean: Till The End of Time. Hear the voice acting of a girl named Farleen, then come back and tell me what is worse, Cielo or Farleen.
Actually, I have played SO3. Farleen wasn't ungodly horrible as people made her out to be. I'd rather listen to Farleen. 'Sides, she's hot. :)

Peter Mar 7, 2006 05:14 AM

Zero,
It's rather easy. Just download IPS Patcher HERE, download the rom and it's patch, and just apply it, the programs really easy to use.

Thanks for the link btw, I'm only just discovering the whole SMT univrse, and there is a lot of info out there aside from game; novels, manga, anime, even Live Action can be found when looked for.

yangxu Mar 8, 2006 03:50 AM

Persona 3
 
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PS2, release date unknown, 75% completion... Atlus better bring this game over.

yangxu Mar 8, 2006 03:52 AM

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Nehmi Mar 8, 2006 03:54 AM

No. Fucking. Way.

My life has meaning again.

Ok that being said, time to make myself a P3 avatar FOR THE AGES.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Mar 8, 2006 04:02 AM

YES.

Maybe now they can make up for pissing me off with Persona 2's shitty battle system.

eriol33 Mar 8, 2006 04:39 AM

is this a direct sequel of Persona 2? Why's a sequel? Even Persona Eternal punishment actually doesnt deserve to exist.

Peter Mar 8, 2006 05:26 AM

I demand a US release for this one. I'm currently going through the first Persona (about to go to the haunted house), and the battle system is rather enjoyable, although the graphics suck. They had three games to take out any flaws, so this'll be good, I hope.

Nehmi Mar 8, 2006 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by eriol
is this a direct sequel of Persona 2? Why's a sequel? Even Persona Eternal punishment actually doesnt deserve to exist.

It most likely won't be a direct sequel to Persona 2, although I would not be surprised to see cameos from previous characters in the series.

I think I'm actually more excited about getting another Persona OST then the actual game. Here's hoping Hidehito Aoki, Kenichi Tsuchiya, & Shoji Meguro do the music for this one as well.

Sarag Mar 8, 2006 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Enkidu
I demand a US release for this one. I'm currently going through the first Persona (about to go to the haunted house), and the battle system is rather enjoyable, although the graphics suck.

You take that back and you die.

Actually I hope they port this over. I've always been a big fan of Persona.

At first I thought this was the game with the main character who looks for all the world like a train conductor. I guess that must be another new Megaten game.

Peter Mar 8, 2006 08:50 AM

I meant the graphics in general (dungeon, field), the battle graphics are okay, especially the persona manifestations.

The game with the train conductor lookalike (it's actually an old Japanese police uniform I think) is the new Devil Summoner game. I don't think any of those ever saw a US release.

LS Mar 8, 2006 08:54 AM

I loved persona 1 and i dont know but Persona 2 was good but it seemed like it has tons of Persona 2 sequels, there were one where it started at school and i had one where it started in a building i odnt know, but Persona 1 is really good the shouting of "Persona" in mid battle was always fun to hear, too bad the game had that crappy walk around system and tons of random battles which is like a no go.


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