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Skexis Jul 7, 2006 01:11 PM

Yeah, seeing Davy in the trailer, I wondered just how serious I was going to be able to take this movie, but you're right, it was a lot more dark than the first one, and the characters (Davy in particular) were more compelling in this one.

It took me a while to figure out who the actor was, but when my friend mentioned Underworld, it was a lot easier to see the resemblance to Bill Nighy.

valiant Jul 7, 2006 01:32 PM

What I love about the movie is how it included several characters from the previous movie. Especially the comic relief pair, I enjoyed them thoroughly. The ending...had to be the best moment for me for the film...definitely left the audience screaming for more.

*AkirA* Jul 7, 2006 03:38 PM

Im proably gonna catch it tonight when I get off work. It looks like a good popcorn flick. I liked the first one without actually knowing I liked it (figure that out on your own) plus Ive been in a shitty movie drought lately (Click, Art School Confidential, FATF:Tokyo Drift)

watkinzez Jul 7, 2006 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockthepartay
You know when you see

Spoiler:
bullet time


in a pirate movie that they are going out of control.

Huh? Remind me of where that was, can't remember.

Stoob Jul 7, 2006 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watkinzez
Huh? Remind me of where that was, can't remember.

Spoiler:
When Jack shoots the barrels of gunpowder and rum to harm the Kracken.

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 7, 2006 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *AkirA*
Im proably gonna catch it tonight when I get off work. It looks like a good popcorn flick. I liked the first one without actually knowing I liked it (figure that out on your own) plus Ive been in a shitty movie drought lately (Click, Art School Confidential, FATF:Tokyo Drift)

Come now, you were just asking to see a shitty movie by going to see The Fast and the Furious 3: Tokyo Drift.

I loved the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie, but this one has me a bit unsure since I heard the ending feels a bit rushed and it'll be another year before the third movie will be released. Is it still worth seeing this now instead of renting it right before the conclusion comes out in theaters?

Gechmir Jul 7, 2006 10:48 PM

Just read on IMDB that there's a 10 second clip following the credits. Folks argue if it is a hint at #3 or just an extra. But just so ya'll know to stick around =O Sorry if someone already mentioned it.

ziggythecat Jul 7, 2006 11:24 PM

I don't know if anyone else sees it this way but I'm afraid the Pirates trilogy is going to go the way of the Matrix trilogy.

Pirates 1 - innovative, new, never been a pirate movie like it
Pirates 2 - fleshes out the story, the characters grow, peril insues, cliff hanger ending
Pirates 3 - (hopefully this won't be the case) lackluster 3rd act, finishing the story but not with the big bang we all expect.

That's exactly what my experience with the matrix trilogy was. The matrix was groundbreaking (to me at least), the second part was great built me up for a spectacular ending, and the third one just kinda let everything fall into place, didn't wow but didn't exactly disappoint either.

That being said, I liked dead man's chest. kinda felt a big long but was pretty cool.

The little extra after the credits is only extra, no sneak peek or anything, that is unless the 3rd movie goes completely bonkers.

Gechmir Jul 7, 2006 11:46 PM

Pirates 2 is pretty damn good I've heard, unlike Matrix Reloaded. Plus, it doesn't gorge itself on horrendous CG effects that look god-damn ridiculous.

As long as Jack Sparrow doesn't have a One Piece or DBZ style stand-off in the third movie, I'll be fine :)

Shonos Jul 8, 2006 02:36 AM

A year untill the next release? I always heard they filmed POTC 2 and 3 at the same time. =/

JazzFlight Jul 8, 2006 02:43 AM

Man, I totally need a desktop wallpaper of the scene at the end of the movie where:
Spoiler:
Jack does his little Captain Morgan pose in front of the giant mouth of the Kraken right before jumping in. It's like they slowed down the movie just so you could see how bad-ass that scene looked.

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 8, 2006 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shonos
A year untill the next release? I always heard they filmed POTC 2 and 3 at the same time. =/

They probably did film at the same time so they wouldn't have to fly everyone right back to the shooting locations, but the editing is what takes most of the time.

Dewman Jul 8, 2006 03:21 AM

I heard that they were to film PotC2 and 3 backtoback, not at the same time, ala Lord of the Rings and The Matrix.

I don't think this can screw up as much as the Matrix, since this trilogy only has plot wholes to fill, rather than an entire sci fi universe

acid Jul 8, 2006 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazzFlight
Man, I totally need a desktop wallpaper of the scene at the end of the movie where:
Spoiler:
Jack does his little Captain Morgan pose in front of the giant mouth of the Kraken right before jumping in. It's like they slowed down the movie just so you could see how bad-ass that scene looked.

Seconded.

I thouroughly enjoyed it. It was pretty much what I was expecting. That is a pretty mindless summer popcorn movie. Jack was great as expected, and I was quite pleased they didn't do what I was afraid of and make it a Jack-only movie. They allowed the other characters time, and didn't let Jack run wild onscreen for 2 and a half hours. His entrance was great.

Spoiler:
His exit was the fucking coolest thing I've seen in a long time


I really liked the badass Norrington too. And the wheel-swordfight was a great idea. Everything I had heard about Davy Jones was correct, and he was a great villian. The Kraken was great, but I do with we got more (some) shots of the "body" rather than mostly the tentacles.

Spoiler:
I didn't see the ending coming. At all. Seriously, it was one of the best movie surprised I've ever seen. However after the movie my girlfriend pointed out that the first time they visit Tia Dalma's shack, you see Barbossa's boots/feet on the ground.


I simply can't wait for next year to see what happens.

Spoiler:
Obviously Jack is still alive/will come back to life. They wouldn't dare kill of one of the best liked/most profitable characters in recent history. His entrance in #3 is surely going to be something spectactular.


It did run a little long, but overall I did enjoy it. A welcome addition to the series. Not as good as #1, but still great. Hopefully 3 doesn't screw it up.

4/5

Stoob Jul 8, 2006 08:37 AM

I dunno, it was a great movie, but it wasn't what I was expecting.

I kinda thought the humor was a little too goofy, and also a little too forced.

Spoiler:
I especially disliked the "cartoony antics" when Jack, the Commodore, Will, and all of Davy Jones' men were trying to get the chest, and it was like a scene straight out of looney toons.


It just didn't feel pirate enough.

Still very much worth seeing, though.

acid Jul 8, 2006 12:03 PM

Box Office Mojo is reporting that Dead Man's Chest has claimed the largest single day opening gross ever. Beating out the previous holder Star Wars Episode III:Revenge of the Sith (~$55,000,000) and the largest Friday opening X-Men 3 (~$45,000,000) with a staggering $55,500,000.

To put that into perspective, that is half of Superman's weekly gross.

If this keeps up it will shatter the 3-day weekend record Spider-Man 2 set ($114,844,116). Hell, it has a chance of doing that tonight.

CloudNine Jul 8, 2006 12:43 PM

Who exactly was the girl in the shack? Was she new or did she have any bearing on the story before hand? I don't remember.

I say this because of this.

Spoiler:
Did anyone else notice the lockets that both she and Davy Jones had? The first time they were in the shack, Jack took a locket off of her table that was the same as the locket that Will accidnetaly opened on the organ when he stole the key off of Jones. Could there possibly a connection between the two?

acid Jul 8, 2006 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CloudNine
Who exactly was the girl in the shack? Was she new or did she have any bearing on the story before hand? I don't remember.

I say this because of this.

Spoiler:
Did anyone else notice the lockets that both she and Davy Jones had? The first time they were in the shack, Jack took a locket off of her table that was the same as the locket that Will accidnetaly opened on the organ when he stole the key off of Jones. Could there possibly a connection between the two?

She was a new character for the movie.

[spoli]Now that you mention it though, there does seem to be a connection. I didn't pick up on the locket thing when I saw it last night. Perhaps this explains the needlessly long shot of the locket when Will was taking the key from Jones.[/spoil]

NES Oldskooler Jul 8, 2006 03:29 PM

I saw the movie last night but was a little disappointed.

The movie was unnecessarily long and overall I didn't think it had the magic of the original. Most of the verbal jokes were just takes on the jokes from the first movie, and in particular, the rum joke was overdone. Some new additions to the soundtrack would have been nice, as the only one of note was the organ track for Davy Jones.

Most of the action scenes felt very over the top, in a way that the filmmakers were trying to top the original but ended up going too far. Leave the hamster wheel sequences to Cirque du Soleil. That, and the drama was pretty lame.

Drama:
I liked the love triangle going on between the main characters, but the father-son crap with Will was just lame. The plot twists were very predictable as well with Norrington stealing the heart and Barbosa showing up at the end. Cliffhanger endings seem to never be done right, and the bullet time sequence was laughably bad.


I know I've focused on the elements that I thought were weak, but I did actually manage to enjoy the film. I definitely don't regret seeing it in theaters, but it wasn't really what I was expecting. It really seemed to overcomplicate the simple and fun movie that was the original.

I'd give it a 6/10.

Spoiler:
Also, the voodoo lady and Jack using the coffin as a row boat were clearly taken from Monkey Island. I thought it was neat, though.

rockthepartay Jul 8, 2006 04:05 PM

Well, I saw the movie again this morning and it was definitely more enjoyable the second time.

It's not that I didn't think it was great film the first time, but knowing what will happen next allowed me to have more fun with the movie.

Although I still think the first film has the best comedy, the story is simply more compelling in Dead Man's Chest.

Tuxedo-Templar Jul 8, 2006 04:10 PM

Well if I had to make a decision to go see it, could someone simplify it in binary terms? Sucks, or Unsucks?

Cobra Commander Jul 8, 2006 04:19 PM

Definetly worth watching, I dunno how to really rate it compared to the first..it's complicated to say the least without giving anything away. I know I was happy with the film, but yeah just gonna have to wait a whole year to see how everything fits together.

valiant Jul 8, 2006 04:36 PM

What made me appreciate this movie more was that they actually used characters from the movie before...not merely the large potent cast but really small miniscule characters as well like Jack's crew from the first movie (mute parrot guy, midget, etc...) as well as the comic relief (the two charactes from Barbossa's crew) which did add a certain charm to the movie overall. Likewise Norrington's appearance in the movie was a relief...I feared that they were going to throw him away after the first movie. AND of course
Spoiler:
Barbossa's badass entrance at the end of the movie...taking a huge bite out of that apple...great

Rikimaru Jul 8, 2006 04:54 PM

Man, I just saw it today, and it was frigging awesome. I must admit, the jokes are not as good as the first movie. I have high hopes for the third movie and cannot wait to see it. All the characters back plus a Chow Yun Fat Pirate (I hope he has a bigger role). I hope it will be a big fight between the badasses pirates plus the english fleet.

This is my review for the movie if anyone is interested:

"This movie is awesome. You need to see it."

Kairyu Jul 8, 2006 05:34 PM

You know, for awhile there I was regretting to watch that movie at the midnight showing. I honestly wasn't expecting much from it. Now I'm glad I lost a little sleep from it! Besides a few over-used jokes we've all seen in the first movie already:
Spoiler:
"Why is the rum always gone?"
Ok, I laughed at that part too ._.

Dead Man's Chest is one hell of a movie, its easily one of my favorites this year. Fantastic visuals, great music of course; mostly same ol' but I particularly enjoyed the Kraken theme. I was also surprised to see Will Turner steal the spotlight from Sparrow for a good portion of the film. Its just a overall great action flick I think everyone should see at least once, maybe twice!
Spoiler:
Haha, cliffhangers.
Normally I would've shunned any movie that would end it like that but I think this movie pulled it off nicely. With the movie length clocking in at nearly two and a half hours it had to be cut off somewhere.


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