Didn't that have to do with the fact that that server required active maintenance and writing of new campaigns rather than the server wasn't using bandwidth or something?

Like all servers, it required active maintenance, but no, new caompaigns and such were not added, it was similar to the online career in PGR3.

The point is that it was the meat of the online disc. Nixing it removes a LARGE portion of that game.

All I know is that they need to hurry up and make Counter Strike work already. Except for Halo 1 and 2, that's the only original Xbox game I made sure to keep. I played CS online a lot more than I played Halo 2.

Considering how poorly recieved that game was for the original XBox, and how its sequel is currently the only one that Valve I think has any interest in keeping around, I'd say you're better off buying CS:S from somewhere.

He has a point. Stop living in the past, you jerks! At some point you have to realize that old games are horrible, and that the present is where it's at. The present is in fact, so great that word is Microsoft has plans to cut forward compatibility as well by saying "hey, that's enough" and scrapping all games currently in development. Customers will be able to forget the pesky past (which Peter Moore has commanded we aren't concerned about anyway) and the annoying future so that we may enjoy Xbox 360's absolutely stunning present and thank Microsoft for it.

Ahahahaha. Fucking ace, Josh.

We all know Moore just wants us to forget about all the things he's ever done in the past and failed miserably at.

Those motherfuckers better add my Daisenryaku VII before they fucking pussy out on me and give up on backwards compatability. I don't have an Xbox anymore, and I want to play it again.

I honestly don't know how they can say they "over-delivered" or whatever. There was a promise that the 360 would be backward compatible with the Xbox, and now they want to just forget about it? Still not nearly enough games to consider the 360 a decent Xbox game player.

I just listened to Major Nelson's interview with Peter Moore, and Peter explained what he meant with that quote.

[33:13] "I want to be clear that my comments were not about 'nobody cares'. Of course we care! And we're going to continue to get as close as we can to our stated target of every Xbox game being back. compat. to the Xbox 360. And I'm hopeful we get there."
[33:50] "I first of all want to apologize for all of the trauma I've caused."
[34:06] "We're gonna get as darn close as we can to that stated goal of getting every title done."

He said "nobody is concerned" because they reached the goal of the "top-selling games" that they aimed for.

That seems to me like his statements caused a lot of backlash, which resulted in ol' Peter there's bosses suggesting to him that he should issue a statement to try to appease the masses.

And let's face it, backward compatibility is not a huge deal to every player, but it is a big deal to a lot of people. I have buddies who bought a 360 and immediately became interested in picking up older Xbox titles that they missed out on by not having an Xbox, which, while not a huge point of profitability for Microsoft I don't think, it is still something to think about.

Of course, as I type this, I am playing Knights of the Old Republic II on my Xbox because a) the 360 did not do a good job of playing the first Kotor and b) there is no simple way of transferring my saved data from my Xbox to my 360. This is actually an issue that I would be interested in Microsoft providing a solution to, but won't cry about should one never come about. Besides a current shortage of titles, this is the only problem I have had with the 360 thus far.

I could have sworn Morrowind sold millions upon millions of copies. How are they at their goal then?

Morrowind was indeed a Platinum Hit. It may even have been a Best Of PH as well, although I can't recall exactly. Maybe someone can fill me in on that.

Moore's retarded anyway though. I like how he did a complete about face.

Hopefully they will continue to improve this though, yeah.

For those of you with 360's and games that are certified compatible how is the playback? I heard it used to be a little shotty. I'm sure they worked their asses off on both Halos, but what about the other games they had to release updates for?

New BC update. Nothing too special.

June 2006 Back Compat titles added:

1. 4x4 EVO 2
2. Amped® 2
3. Bad Boys 2
4. Big Mutha Truckers
5. DOOM 3®
6. Dreamfall: The Longest Journey
7. Fatal Frame™
8. FlatOut™
9. Grabbed by the Ghoulies™
10. Intellivision Lives
11. LEGO® Star Wars®
12. Minority Report
13. MLB SlugFest 20-04
14. The Punisher™
15. RalliSport Challenge
16. Silent Hill® 4: The Room
17. Spawn® Armageddon
18. Spider-Man
19. Star Wars Battlefront™
20. State of Emergency
21. Zapper™

Additional Japanese-only titles:

Bistro Cupid 1
Flight Academy
Othello Seminar
Igo Seminar
Shogi Seminar
Mahjong Seminar

They had the same problem with the PS2 though. I still have about 10 PS1 memory cards full of saved games despite the fact that the whole lot would sit quietly in the corner of a PS2 card barely denting the total capacity. At least you can plug PS1 cards into a PS2. Is there nowhere to plug an Xbox memory unit into a 360?

Also, I too am currently playing KOTOR 2 (again), it's a fuck of a game.

What an awful BC update. Bad Boys 2? Big Mutha Truckers? Come on guys....

Looked good to me. What do you want them to do release the games only you want? Lets have some common sense here. I see 9 titles on there that were highly rated.

Silent Hill 4: The Room is a good addition. I still need to play this game and I'd rather do it on my 360 than my PS2.

Double Post:
I think it has been explained enough times that they don't try to make that shit backwards compatible; it just happens to work as an effect of recent changes made to the emulation engine.

I agree...Not much good in this round. Not only do I not own a single one of those games, I will probably never consider buying a single one of those games.

Except for Intellivision Lives, which I have for Gamecube anyway.

I know a lot of people knock Microsoft's choices for their BC updates such as Barbie, Bad Boys 2, etc but you have to realize the process behind making a game backwards compatible.

The XB360 uses a different CPU architecture and video subsystem. There is no chip that just detects a Xbox game and runs those functions.

Software emulation is a more appropiate verbage for what Microsoft is trying to do. Every game they want to work on the 360 they have to code a software wrapper that takes the original execution and set up a translation that the XB360/XB game can understand.

As they are working on emulation, some titles will be easier to write a wrapper for than others. Similiar gaming engines may allow the work on one title to quickly carry over to 5 other titles. Think how well Mode 7 games worked on the first versions of Snes9x and ZSNES. Once they got the chip down, all the games ran great.

It's not that Microsoft is CHOOSING to do Barbie bla bla bla over Dead Or Alive 3, its that Barbie came free with porting another game or took 5 minutes of effort.

So people would rather they omit games that people feel are shitty rather than include them at all for "Backwards comptability?"

<shrug> Maybe someone's 7 year old daughter somewhere is having a really good time with Barbie. Maybe they just booted the game and it just came up? ;)

I don't care either way. I bought a XB360 to enjoy next generation gaming. Anyone who cared for Halo 1/2 already have an XBox anyways and just about everything else is cross platform. Someone who cared for that generation owns a PS2/Xbox/Gamecube.

I'm not gonna give a damn about Rallisport Challenge when I'm playing Chome Hounds in a month.

BC is a bonus. A nice bonus but should not be a contention point.

Whether "functional" or not, there is PR appeal for saying our list is 300 games! (when people might use it for 10) then 10 games on Xbox works on the 360.

Although he's not stating it, the creator of Psyconauts is beyond pissed, he'd even offered to help with the emulator Code but MS blew him off.

http://www.doublefine.com/news.htm#13JUNE2006

Apprently, "TOP MEN!" are better than the guy who created the damn thing.

LOL, enjoy your Babie's horse adventure guys, ti's going to be a while before you get to play anything of real note.

Interesting, I wonder what that means if Microsoft doesn't even accept free help to speed up the BC process.

It means they're concentrating their efforts on improving the quality of service rather than pandering to the needs of people who if they were really desperate to play an old games, they'd play them on an original Xbox.

Hard though it might be to imagine, it's entirely possible that Microsoft aren't too fucked about backwards compatability and are concentrating on other things.