I have no clue where your jump in logic about "they think he doesn't write his own music" comes from. If they thought that, they obviously wouldn't have nominated him.

But it may explain why he heavily sucks when he doesn't have a good orchestrator. Or can the internet finally admit that Shirley Walker had more to do with why Batman is a classic score?

Ottman is very hit or miss. I love some of his stuff (Apt Pupil, Fantastic Four, Usual Suspects) and don't care for others (X2). I was talking to him late last year and he has a lot of worries about doing this movie because it's doubly hard - not only is it John Williams's theme but Ottman is a HUGE fan of Williams. He's very fanboyish when it comes to certain scores from the 70s and 80s.

Three Six Mafia is my rebuttal to the idea of using Oscar nominations as a gauge of a composer's worth.

I'll wait and see what the movie looks like when further details come out, but I'm not holding my breath. I don't consider the Christ figure overtures in the teaser trailer to be a good sign. Unless they're doing a funky take on the Death and Return story, which we know they're not, it suggests they're just abusing the source material for the sake of pandering to the Passion demographic.

Well, let us not forget that Superman was created by two Jews.

For anybody that's interested, Soundtrack.net has a feature on the scoring sessions for this flick. It seems that John Williams' brother was in the studio orchestra, and John himself was invited to attend, but declined. It also notes which old themes are going to be reused.

There are a few reasons why I probably won't go see this Superman. First of all, I can understand Brian Singer wanting to take a break from X-3 and work on Logan's Run or some other film, but then he finds out that they are wanting a director for Superman and he basically says, F**k you X-3, I'm doing Superman. I don't know, it just seems like a betrayal to me, like if Peter Jackson directed the first two LOTR and then said out of the blue, You know what? Screw Frodo, I'm directing Harry Potter. It's like the same genera just a little bit of a different plot.

Also, Kim Basinger as Lois Lane? I'd still have preferred someone that was an actual brunette to play the role (I've seen pictures of her as Lois Lane, and to me, she looks like a horrible Lois Lane, no offense to anyone who is a fan of Basinger's work).

However, the person playing as Lex Luthor seems interesting. I don't know about Brandon playing Superman. It looks like they were trying really hard to find someone that looked like the kid of Dean Cain and Christopher Reeves (then again, I have only seen one or two pictures of him as Superman).

Are you smoking rock? Kate Bosworth is playing Lois.

The person playing Lex Luthor? I didn't think Kevin Spacey was just some random no-name. He should do a fine job, methinks. Probably the best part casted outside Rosenbaum.

I'm glad this was bumped up since the theatrical trailer was posted online today:
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Thoughts?

LoL, oh my god. What is this, a fan trailer. I knew it all along. Bryan Singer ruined Superman.

Most of the CG just sucked. Will you look at the Fortress of Solitude. Fortress of Plastic. Also, Kevin Spacey's acting was somehow not impressive.

That actually looked pretty badass. BR looks to be doing a convincing job. Spacey will probably make the movie gold. Special effects looked most impressive. June can't come soon enough.

Wow, that looked great. I think this movie is going to be badass. Spacey as Luthor? Come on, that's unbeatable.

That made my jaw drop a few times. Well, I was excited to see this movie since it was announced, but now that excitement has tripled. It's looking great so far. I can't wait for June!

Note to self: Nyquil + Posting = WTH?

A very impressive Luthor indeed.

Yeah come to think of it weren't you impressed by the movie The Island?


Anyway I thought the trailer looked pretty sweet and having Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor gets an A+ in my book.

Wow it definitly looks awesome, Brandon as Clark looks and acts so damn much like Reeves did. The action and special effects look promising, 1 more month!

OUCH.

Thats the only bit of casting I wish was undone. They hire Frank Langella but have him play Perry White? If there was ever a man to play Lex Luthor, it's him!

Is it just me or did the trailer have some of Ottman's score in it, in particular the first time the "March" is heard....?

Anyways I enjoyed the trailer and have high hopes for the film, even more so after watching the trailer and Coca-Cola ad. :)

Routh is a fantastic Superman... At first, I wished they had cast Tom Welling from Smallville, but he's too much of a pretty boy. He's fantastic in Smallville, but for the movie, Routh is the man.

The trailer was sick. On the whole, the special effects look awesome (the plane shots look a bit hokey, but I'm not about to make any sweeping judgments about the film based on those slight blemishes). Plus, I like Lex Luthor's character under Spacey. He's maniacal yet doesn't take himself too seriously. What Singer said about melding a more serious Luthor with just a touch of campy one was right. Anyway, I'm pumped for June 30.

It looks pretty nice visually, but I'm unmoved by it.

This movie is pretty much gonna great. I have faith in Routh as Clark/Supes for the character :) Btw, love the ending of the trailer ;)

The latest trailer has actually set my mind a little more at ease for some reason. I think this is mainly because I can actually see Routh pulling off a good job at taking on the role of Superman. While Reeve's shoes will be difficult to fill, from the trailer it seems Routh both sounds and looks the part.

The flight scenes looked incredibly nice but those were only like 3 scenes.
I'm a little confused though. Superman returns is suppose to be after the original reeves movies or is it its own thing?
The movie looks more promising that I originaly thought but I'm still not interested. I think a better louis lane could have gotten the role though ~_~

It's a continuation of the Reeves movies, although I think there will be probably be quite a bit of "origin" retelling. So, yeah, officially this one is Superman V

In this movie, Superman has supposedly left earth for an unspecified period of time, and when he returns he has to rediscover his place in the new world which has learnt to manage without him.

Personally, I would have ideally preferred that they do what Batman:Begins did and start from scratch (especially since Superman III and IV were just... well... awful :p )... But it looks like they've put alot of work into making sure this new movie will be a solid work (and it's about time... they've travelled through a very rocky road all the way back since ~1997 or so in order to get to where they are now with this new film)... So I'm cautiously optimistic :D

http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/ima...6031801760.jpg well here is the poster, found it on IGN