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Grundlefield Earth Jan 4, 2010 06:35 PM

It should definitely be nominated for Best Picture (for sure for the Oscars 10 noms), but then again, I have not nearly seen enough 2009 movies, so I doubt it should win. Then again if nothing else was as satisfying then, then who knows.

Best director maybe, best technological awards for sure.

I saw it twice, and I actually liked it even more the second time (IMAX 3D). First time was just 3D, but the second time i was able to focus on other aspects and noticed much more then I did in the first. Well worth it.

Thud. Jan 4, 2010 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 739933)
Oh man have you heard about that one where they put dinosaurs on an island for some theme park and they all bring some people in to test things out and then everything goes horribly wrong? Oh man I never thought that some people gonna die but then some people gonna escape and learn a valuable lesson or two HAPPY ENDING. Brrr wrong so predictable. It's not like anything that actually happened in the movie matters when I can bullet point the plot in advance. What he got the girl in the end and the bad guy went boom? Four out four diarrhea filled toilets.

I like Jurassic Park.

wvlfpvp Jan 4, 2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Capo (Post 739931)
Shut the fuck up. You have proven time and time again your astounding lack of taste. And your equally astounding self-assuredness in said taste.

Any movie that follows established archetypes so closely that I know exactly how the plot is going to turn out from the trailer doesn't even deserve my ten bucks, let alone a god damn award.

But, ooooh! Pretty colors! In three-dimensions!

Wait, so when was following archetypes (fuck, even EXPLOITING THEM) a bad thing?


Pixar's films are fucking full of them, but most people would agree with me that they've made some of the best movies of the past 10 years.

What about archetypes in music? I mean "indie" as a word to describe a bunch of bands is asinine, considering how many independent labels there are putting out all types of music, BUT HEY PEOPLE LISTEN TO IT.

that was rude and i apologize

Single Elbow Jan 4, 2010 06:56 PM

I nominate GI Joe for best movie of the decade. It has exploding everything (minus robots).

YO PITTSBURGH MIKE HERE Jan 4, 2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wvlfpvp (Post 739943)
Wait, so when was following archetypes (fuck, even EXPLOITING THEM) a bad thing?


Pixar's films are fucking full of them, but most people would agree with me that they've made some of the best movies of the past 10 years.

But they do something with them. They play with them, and toss them about and turn them on their head.

James Cameron is blunter than a D.A.R.E. lecture.

Wall Feces Jan 4, 2010 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Thud. (Post 739940)
I like Jurassic Park.

Shut the fuck up. You have proven time and time again your astounding lack of taste. And your equally astounding self-assuredness in said taste.

Any movie that follows established archetypes so closely that I know exactly how the plot is going to turn out from the trailer doesn't even deserve my ten bucks, let alone a god damn award.

But, ooooh! Pretty colors! In three-dimensions!

Jessykins Jan 5, 2010 03:35 AM

I dunno. It wasn't that funny. I think drama is probably where it belongs.

khan0plinger Jan 5, 2010 05:24 AM

This thread should come with a warning: "Be warned, fucktards be in here"

Big Bang Theory should of been nominated? For what? Its amazing that people bash the Office for the reasons they do. Chances are that you either dislike it because it is popular or you just plain don't get it. I am leaning towards option B.

As far as the movies go, I would agree about Avatar but really at least it is decent and gives most of those lists a good movie that I can pull for winning. There should be a time duration that they have to be out out for before they can take a nomination.


And for the love of god, did I see someone actually say they felt that Peter Jackson's movie should be on there or should be on there next year? Are people actually that retarded? Thats almost as bad as clamoring on about how Heath Ledger was amazing in the Dark Knight and deserved ALL THE AWARDS.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Jan 5, 2010 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Knighthawk (Post 740009)
This thread should come with a warning: "Be warned, fucktards be in here"

Sure thing, bro.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jan 5, 2010 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Knighthawk (Post 740009)
Big Bang Theory should of been nominated? For what? Its amazing that people bash the Office for the reasons they do. Chances are that you either dislike it because it is popular or you just plain don't get it. I am leaning towards option B.

So, it's okay for you to dislike a show I enjoy but I am an ignorant moron for not enjoying something you like?

Big Bang Theory provides what I enjoy in a comedy. The writing is sharp and I often laugh audibly. The characters work because I have met people like that in real life. I even see a little bit of Sheldon in myself and it's nice to be able to laugh at oneself. But mostly, the show works very well without resorting to a dippy premise or superimposing unbelievable characters onto the script. It's a good example of what I believe a comedy should be: something fun, relatable and not too highbrow in it's delivery.

Whereas with The Office, I have a problem with the delivery. It's quite awkward and clumsily timed. At one moment it's silly and even a bit tongue in cheek, which is fine. But then it spins into drama-llama mode without warning and a good set-up for a gag is destroyed by the tension. Am I supposed to find that kind of severance funny? Is being swerved with no payoff now what constitutes humor? To me, it boils down to "Why did the chicken cross the road? God, you're ugly!!" which is a horrible juxtaposition of comedy and character development. There are aspects that amuse me but not enough to make me a fan.

So it's not that I don't "get it." It's that I don't particularly appreciate what it's trying to do. There's too much parity between its attempts at being funny and its attempts at being dramatic. At least for me. I also don't work in a sterile corporate paper-pushing environment, nor do I know anyone who does, so the whole concept isn't doing that much for me. Honestly, Dilbert pulls it off far better than the T.V. show does.

Basically excuse me if I would rather see something I prefer receive credit I feel it deserves than watch something that does little for me be given acclaim that I believe is rather overrated. I know I'm not the only person enjoying Big Bang Theory, as it does very well in both ratings and reviews.

You can take your presumptions that I'm just hating on shit because it's popular and that I don't "get" comedy, and cram them up your ass. There's room in the nominations for both shows. It's ultimately meaningless who wins since the voting is so subjective anyhow. But it'd be nice for fans of either series receive a bit of validation, you know?

That's what I've been driving at. I guess you just don't "get" that.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jan 5, 2010 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sprouticus (Post 737819)
The Office is a show I was scared about because of how much I love the British original, but they've managed to not just equal the old show, but in some ways surpass it.

Ha ha, what? The US Office was mildly amusing for a couple of episodes but beyond that it quickly got stale. Ricky Gervais has the sense to end The Office here while it was still funny, the US guys ought to take a leaf out of his book.

I really like Big Bang Theory, mainly because there's not really any other nerd humour on tv over here. As far as US sitcoms go, it's easily one of the best in my opinion. 30 Rock is ok but certainly not award-winning good.

wvlfpvp Jan 5, 2010 09:03 AM

OK, so, back to the travesty that's the nominations for "Best Simpson's Writer:"


What the hell. The last season of King of the Hill ended in 09. It may not have been the BEST, but it was still consistently funnier than The Simpson's was this year.

And, despite what the Internet tells me, both Family Guy and American Dad were funnier/better written this year, as well. But what do I know, I like Juno, and we all know what the Interwebs tells us to think about that.

FatsDomino Jan 5, 2010 09:22 AM

That's not really fair. King of the Hill had far far far far far better writing than The Simpsons for quite some time.

Wall Feces Jan 5, 2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Shin (Post 740016)
Ha ha, what? The US Office was mildly amusing for a couple of episodes but beyond that it quickly got stale. Ricky Gervais has the sense to end The Office here while it was still funny, the US guys ought to take a leaf out of his book.

The show really isn't THAT much different from the UK counterpart. It's just bigger. More characters, more stories, more locations... It's pretty much exactly what an American version of The Office should be. If there are any large differences, it's that Michael Scott is even more of an insecure asshole than David Brent, and that the characters are way more developed. This is both a good and bad thing, because while a few of the characters suck, most of them are really well-written.

I think the show started to decline in quality when Jim and Pam got together. That was pretty much the one dramatic hook that kept the show going, and now that they're together, it just seems like they're running out of fuel for story. They're still funny to watch but now that they're together, we really have nobody to root for.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jan 5, 2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sprouticus (Post 740042)
The show really isn't THAT much different from the UK counterpart. It's just bigger. More characters, more stories, more locations... It's pretty much exactly what an American version of The Office should be.

I think that's why I didn't like it. That and in the American version they actually have jokes, whereas the UK version is pure situational humour. It's a little churlish of me to suggest that a programme made in the US for US audiences not appealing to my British sense of humour isn't award-worthy really. We all know 30 Rock wil never win a BAFTA for example, tastes are just that bit different here and there.

FatsDomino Jan 5, 2010 12:26 PM

Not that it's a comparable example but was Monty Python more popular in the United States or in England? =o

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jan 5, 2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 740055)
Not that it's a comparable example but was Monty Python more popular in the United States or in England? =o

At the time, England. You guys didn't realy understand it for a decade or so.

wvlfpvp Jan 5, 2010 01:05 PM

Judging by the laughter (canned or otherwise), y'all didn't really understand it during the first season, either.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jan 5, 2010 02:25 PM

First series, our tv shows don't have long enough runs to be called seasons.

khan0plinger Jan 5, 2010 04:14 PM

haha @ the warning.

I'm glad someone brought up the UK version of the Office, I always did feel it was a bit better than the U.S but still feel the US version is pretty damn funny. It reminds me alot of another great show, Arrested Development. Alot of the humor comes from stuff you might not pick up the first time you watch it.

Looking over the list again and thinking back to other movies I saw this year, it makes you realize 2009 was a really shitty year for movies. Aside from the thoughtless action in good fun blockbusters like Transformers and Terminator...nothing really stood out as amazing.

Kolba Jan 6, 2010 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Shin (Post 740016)
I really like Big Bang Theory, mainly because there's not really any other nerd humour on tv over here.

There's The IT Crowd.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jan 6, 2010 07:38 AM

Yeah, I've got all of those on DVD and it's awesome.


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