Originally Posted by Krelian (Post 734089)

So people who choose to drink beer have to grab a Sprite. They'll get over it.

So people who want to listen to hip-hop have to listen to trance. They'll get over it.

So people who enjoy playing first-person shooters will have to play platformers. They'll get over it.

So people who want to watch Youtube videos on their telecoms plan will have to pay an extra fifty bucks a month to access certain websites. They'll get over it.

So people who enjoy privacy when they're making a phone call will have to put up with the government listening in on their conversations. They'll get over it.

So people who want to get a job at a country club will have to apply somewhere where they don't only hire whites. They'll get over it.

So people who want to criticise the way their country is being run will face laws against distribution of anti-establishment propaganda. They'll get over it.

So people who want chemotherapy have to get radiotherapy. They'll get over it.

So people who want to marry people of their own gender have to turn heterosexual. They'll get over it.

So people who choose to digitally distribute their artwork in one particular bit order will have to rearrange those individual ones and zeroes and arbitrarily compromise their efficiency. They'll get over it.

Originally Posted by Bernard Black (Post 734090)

Deni: what about hosting it on their site and on a P2P site, in full support of illegal downloading?

Originally Posted by LeHah

I'm sure you'll feign offense when I call you an idiot because you don't see that coming. And I suppose I should dance around your time-appropriate delicate sensibilities because I hold a more logical, more law abiding and forthright sense of morals? Because you blame the goddamned train that hits you when you refuse to step off the tracks and out of its way, huh?

Originally Posted by Denicalis

Wow, do you really suck that bad at logic? The correct corollary would be to say if you want a sprite, you have to buy it from a vendor, not from the back of a truck after someone stole it. But, you know, okay. Go ahead and be wrong in a bunch of lines if it makes you feel better. Next you can tell me how this is one step removed from nazis and lose all arguments on the internet simultaneously.

Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 734094)

Guys

Deni and LeHah are agreeing with each other in support of a ridiculous premise

And you're all acting as though they're actually arguing in good faith

A man sticks his fist into the open air

and Gamingforce throws their faces at it

Originally Posted by Missing the Point Krelian

>suck at logic
>you can't have a blue car because it's illegal; have a green car instead because i say such things are justifiably and objectively good
>equating legitimate acquisition of deliberately distributed works over a certain protocol with theft

Originally Posted by Krelian (Post 734095)

Originally Posted by Devo (Post 734098)

I once pirated something out of print. I feel like such an asshole.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

I'm not arguing anything outside of the fact that bands can still give away their music for free if they want to, they just can't use filesharing.

Originally Posted by Krelian (Post 734100)

"They can share files if they so choose, but only if they don't share files"

okay

Originally Posted by Krelian (Post 734100)

"They can share files if they so choose, but only if they don't share files"

Originally Posted by Devo (Post 734102)

K brb calling myself into the proper authorities.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

They can host it on a website. They can make it free on iTunes. They can stick it on an ftp and link it all over every chat room they want.

Have you always been this dense?

Originally Posted by Krelian (Post 734104)

"They can host it as an HTTP download, they can put it on an FTP server, they can share it through a proprietary rules-and-regs-bound music store service, they can distribute it through IRC, but MY GOD IF THEY EVER USE BITTORRENT OR ANY OTHER SIMILAR OPEN-SOURCE PROTOCOL, I WILL SHIT ON THEIR GRANDPARENTS' GRAVES AND USE THE INCOME FROM THEIR DAY JOBS TO FUND WASTRELS LIVING IN COUNCIL FLATS"

okay

Originally Posted by Denicalis (Post 734105)

No, your government would do that. You can stop acting like I support this law at any time, and you can also stop acting like they said they were going to stomp on babies for fun. When someone asks what options artists who want to share their music have, don't get mad when someone gives them a list of viable options.

Rational thinking is just something that exists for other people in your universe, huh Krel?

Originally Posted by Krelian (Post 734107)

>continued lack of any rational justification for a position
>denial of support for a law despite continued support for the position it puts forth
>thousands of straw men
>un-ironic ad-hominem retorts

http://imgur.com/TPxwm.jpg

Originally Posted by Bernard Black (Post 734108)

Lehah: Not really; the band in question had a label, and removed themselves from it.

Originally Posted by Bernard Black (Post 734108)

I'll agree with your second point. I'm no lawyer either. But I have read the law in question.

Originally Posted by Bernard Black (Post 734108)

There is plenty of room for biased judgement to be made.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

You flipped out.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

Wow, do you really suck that bad at logic?

Originally Posted by Denicalis

You flipped out.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

Use that retarded picture all you want, Krel.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

You flipped out.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

It doesn't make you any less waving your dick in the air with no takers around.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

You flipped out.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

Try arguing against yet another premise I haven't discussed. Maybe you can outwit bizarro me in an argument I never had. It's your last, best hope.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

You flipped out.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

Have you always been this dense?

Originally Posted by Denicalis

You flipped out.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

Rational thinking is just something that exists for other people in your universe, huh Krel?

Originally Posted by Denicalis

You flipped out.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

I'd link some idiotic image, but I still have slightly more dignity than you do. Continue your dick flapping as you would, sir.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

You flipped out.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

I await with great glee your attempts to convince the world you're right in an argument no one is having.

Originally Posted by Bernard Black (Post 734112)

In answer to earlier points, it does seem ridiculous to me that people who can only just afford an education can't have access to the internet.

Originally Posted by Krelian (Post 734113)

>an argument no one is having
>denicalis accounting for nearly 20 percent of posts in an inherently argumentative thread
>implication that an argument is does not exist despite repeatedly deigning to reply to stupid reaction-image posts

http://imgur.com/TPxwm.jpg

Originally Posted by Denicalis

I notice you are unable to prove one instance of me supporting this law, or doing anything beyond providing answers to the question of: "What does an artist do if they want to share files under this new law?"

You need to get much better at trolling if you expect me to pay attention to you.