Um. We said it -was- a propaganda tool? Please learn logic, reason and politics before posting next.

I assume we'll see you in about six years.

It's cool.

I'll wait.

If he died in his cell, I guarantee you there would be much less hoopla about it then him being released. And you'd be an idiot to deny that.

Look at when McVeigh died - any big deal about that? Not particularly - defiantly not something that world leaders condemned/applauded. Now if he had been released on compassionate charges?

Why is it that justice is never dispensed fairly?

Well, yes, but his "hero status" such as it is appears to be based on the notion that he's a scapegoat rather than any open declaration that killing Americans is totally rad.

So he's just their Mumia, really.

And, of course, like Mumia, he's probably guilty as sin, buuuuut you can kind of see their point. If you squint.

But yes. Even if we assume this is a move purely done as a propaganda move to improve British-Libyan relations, that's fine. The upside of making an entire nation slightly less irritated with you well outweighs the pouty indignation of people STILL CRYING over the dead of two decades ago.

No amount of imprisoning a dying man will bring their sons and daughters back, and if there's even a slim chance that freeing him will reduce the chance of future bombings, holy shit, jump on that goddamn train immediately.

I don't care who he killed - Americans, Brits, Scots, whoever - it shouldn't make a hair of difference.

And what is releasing him going to do to stop future attacks? He was pretty much rewarded a flight home to be with his family as he died - Pretty decent reward for 270 murders.

The fact you don't understand how showing a populace that thinks you're cruel and hateful a bit of compassion is good for public relations just proves what a hateful, small-minded person you, yourself, are.

Oh god. He got to go home just before he died of a painful disease! Clearly there was no punishment handed out.*




*please note decades in prison and having cancer do not count as bad things to happen to a person in the world of Locke.

You're a hair's breadth away from being one of the "They hate us for our Freedom" ignorants, Locke. What the fuck.

Deni,

I've had family suffer and pass from that terrible disease, yet it still does not change what that man did in his life. A murderer with cancer, is still a murderer, whichever way you slice it. If you have sympathy for him, fine - I'll let you explain that to the families of his victims - it shouldn't be a problem right?

I wouldn't be able to do it. Maybe I'm hateful and small minded - but I couldn't tell a mother that it was OK her son's murderer was given a free ride home to die with his family - when her son wasn't given that at all.

A life sentence is just that - a life sentence. Why should he be released because he is sick and going to die anyways? Why should he be allowed a hero's welcome as he returns home, a triumphant murderer.The only public relations this did was make the man a hero, and he will die a hero and a martyr, more so then if he had died in Scotland.

Hey Locke, since when did those 270 families appoint you as their spokesperson? I must have missed the press release.

When did Deni get appointed as al-Megrahi's? What's your point?

And are you okay with going to this man's family and telling him he has to die in prison, alone and without proper care because you're mad?

I'm not defending him, I'm defending the logic in being decent rather than spiteful.

But you're cool with the hate, so good on you.

Letting a man free does not make him "more of a martyr"

What has been done defuses his status as a martyr.

You are using the word in a manner precisely opposite to that of its actual meaning.

He will be a "hero" until he dies, at which point he will be forgotten since nothing terribly awful really happened to him. His candidacy for martyrdom has been revoked.

The whole point of martyrdom is to die painfully at the hands of your enemies so the survivors have something to get good and mad about.

Nice skirt around the question - the scots should hire you to their PR!

And I would be fine with it - their son did wrong, he doesn't deserve a reprieve. Just because he's got cancer doesn't take away any horror away from his crime. So why does he get a reprieve when others don't?

I'm not all hateful anyways - just pisses me off when I see such a travesty of justice.

Okay there Hammuravi.

You keep acting like you're not the crazy, vicious one here.

Again... Won't answer the question.

Because you miss the point.

The suffering of a few hundred families is sad, but it isn't what we base a system of justice on. Why do you think the American version has her blindfolded, you fucking twat?

You don't get it, Locke. You haven't gotten it since word one. I'm not going to continue to make valid point after valid point, only to have you ignore it in the search for your own misguided definition of justice and right. If you want to follow Hammuravi, go for it. But don't be shocked when I tell you you're a barbaric, backwards twit.

I see I've gotten a rise out of you - and you still refuse to answer the question - leads me to believe that you couldn't tell the families what you are telling me. Shows you something right there about yourself now doesn't it?

At least I'm honest about what I say.

Last time, moron.

I'm personally outraged at his actions. I think he's a terrible human being. But the system is there so our personal feelings don't take precedent over being a decent human being because of our clouded rationality and emotional reactions.

You're right, though. It shows me I'm able to comprehend logic and make informed, reasonable, rational decisions while you are a two year old moving between emotional outrage and pouting.

Good job, hero. You're an honest ignorant child. Just like my year old nephew.

Do you spit up on your high chair, too? Feel free to also be proud of that accomplishment.

Again... No answers... Hypocrite.

I see you understand the word hypocrite as much as you understand the word martyr.