The problem with Star Trek movies is that they've never once been like the shows which were popular.

Star Trek 2 is popular for, what, blowing shit up and having some early cross-pollenation between movie and show. Meanwhile, TOS had entire episodes devoted to allegory about Vietnam and TNG was doing episodes about acceptance of homosexuality.

First Contact? Blowing shit up. Undiscovered Country? A Scooby-Doo episode.

I mean, they're fun and I love watching them - but "cerebral experience"? Oy gevalt!

Jinkies gang, we found ourselves a clue God!

Oh wait, wrong movie

Hmm, I'm guessing Trek is enjoyable -100% of the time, but somehow mandatory for you, LeHah. Am I close? It's like Math and Sciences, but Television, for those who don't like those subjects.

This will probably sound dumb to LeHah some but the HD trailer improves my opinion of the movie somewhat. I still want to see more character development, but apparently (from reading about the movie online) some of my fears about the story between Spock and Kirk will be assuaged.

So, Kirk was an accomplished hotrodder in his youth, huh? Funny how he forgot by the time he visited the Iotians in TOS's "A Piece Of The Action", but I guess driving a car's not like riding a bike...

Logical disconnect discovered in Star Trek

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See page 16, after the middle school sports scores.

Page 16? Well, I can't knock KIRK'S ORIGIN LADEN WITH INCONSISTENCIES off the front page, I guess. :(

LeHah attempts a comeback.

This event recieved no media attention.

The joke isn't that Star Trek has no continuity issues - since the joke has always been how convoluted the franchise is.

The joke is that - for someone who supposedly loved and grew up on the original series - JJ Abrams and his script continuity department didn't do their homework at all.

Except you just said it happened... so, what?

They probably did, and even if they didn't, they just don't care. And I'm thankful. The Trek "universe" has needed a redo for a long time anyway, much like any franchise that over extends itself in time. The original story and series are good, very entertaining and overall just good creative TV. Over the years and various Trek movies/TV series, the original characters and universe have evolved and not necessarily for the better.

I'm excited about Trek born anew. We'll see if it's worth anything, but over all, it's about damn time they started over. The Trek universe is tired, very tired. Much like Marvel and DC rebirth their comic universes (albeit poorly at times), it's healthier for the franchise, healthier for story-telling, and it's a fresh take for fans.

I myself am not a Trek whore, but I've enjoyed it over the years. The original series when I was a boy, the movies when I was a bit older, TNG as a teen... DS9 while some swear by it, lacked a certain momentum that earlier stuff had. Same with Voyager. Unfortunately, I never saw Enterprise, but I'm guessing I would have liked it. The overall developing Trek universe has been fun and entertaining, but it's layered complexity is too much anymore. The simplicity, mystery, and adventure of the originals is completely lost.

I don't have an educated opinion on Abrams or any of the creators of this movie, but I'm certainly glad someone is attempting to restart this intriguing franchise/story as Trek still has potential to excellently entertain for years to come.

Since it's a JJ Abrams film, the movie will only show the Enterprise as a silhouette, the trailer was actually a flashback, and the movie is shot in first person view.

So your entire post was "I like some things except the things that I don't like, which I'll ignore."

Ladies and Gentlemen of GFF - your common Star Trek internet person. :gonk:

Being that I watch the original shows when I was a kid and have every since. I have just on thing to say ...

WHO CARES ITS STAR TREK \ @.@ /

i love it period

Yeah, but you're not allowed to enjoy it

The curvature of Spock's ears is all wrong

And there are some scratches on the Enterprise which shouldn't be there

So the movie's been premiered and the reviews are starting to come in. The word is good so far, character development being the main point of praise. I'll be going this weekend...who else is excited?

Has it leaked yet?

<Mo0vereaction>Just pay for a motherfucking ticket, for christ's sake.</Mo0vereaction>

He just wants it to make slash pictures from screencaps.


Kirk/Harold HOTTTTT

Any series can serve as a starting point. You can either watch the original series from way back when or start with any of the subsequent series. I'd probably recommend you start with The Next Generation though. If only because during the latter seasons, they start to develop a story arc that continues to some extent throughout whatever came afterwards. Political events in the furthest reaches of known space effectively set up all that is to follow. You don't need to know the backstory to watch Voyager, for example... it just adds colour.

Wouldn't recommend starting with the films. They assume a great deal of prior knowledge about the characters and situations. If you want to start with the original series, then you'll probably get a more historical perspective on the events which follow... but many episodes are a bit weak. Mind you, the same could be said for the first couple of seasons of any other Star Trek. It seems to take these series about two seasons to really hit stride. I wouldn't skip the early episodes of any series because they establish the characters, but be prepared for some weak episodes.

If you do watch some of the films, skip the first and fifth. I can honestly say that I wouldn't subject anyone to those, even an enemy.

The most recent series, Enterprise, is a prequel to the whole saga. The others follow on the chronology in approximately broadcast order. It blows chunks. Don't watch, unless you feel like punishing yourself.

With regards to the trailer... it looks like a Michael Bay movie. Fuck that noise.

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Wait, what? I totally agree with your assessment of DS9, but Enterprise is supposed to be excellent now? I ditched it... I think before the season finalé. I'm asking you honestly, no bullshit.... did it improve a ton and a half suddenly in season 2? It would have to!

People are retarded about Enterprise because they don't understand the premise. They think its just a ham-fisted ST show that attempts to prequel the ST universe.

No. Thats the way idiots think. Its The Right Stuff with Star Trek. It also features more than one clever episode - like the First Contact backstory and the series finale is probably the most clever of all the ST endings. (It uses the same literary device as Mary Shelley's Frankenstein)

Honestly I just thought the acting was below feeble in some cases, and it put me right off. The premise worked for me, it really did. Just not the execution.

I'm sure the internet follows your gold standard of good and bad.

This would explain why Sturgeon’s Revelation applies so well to people and posts found on the internet.

Hey I don't expect anyone to agree with me, but I can't really call the performances of most of the cast good by my own standards.