Minion, you do realize that a LOT of people in this country "don't think." You may as well be talking to a wall with most of them. They're not listening, they're not getting what you're saying - or they're just too deadset in their own world to LISTEN to you.

Every person is different. You're not RIGHT just because you conned someone you know. I can tell you that I have experience with it in the OPPOSITE. EVERY_DAY_OF_MY_LIFE.

You need to be a little more DYNAMIC, sir.

Best thing I could think to do is drop a copy of the standard rapist profile on her desk and walk away. Hello. What does it mean to be with a proven wife-beater that has no impulse control? Who wants to risk making a child with such a person, never mind their own safety?

But don't feel at all guilty if you can't "talk her out of it." It's not exactly easy to use logic to convince someone to change their feelings - that isn't the part of the brain making the decisions here. Talking about what a bad boy he is just feeds the drama train, unfortunately.

Tell her to come post about it on GFF.

Banned from thread.

If she's not prepared to walk out on him, she won't walk out on him. Even convincing her that he's a bad person won't do much - probably at the most she might talk some shit about him or go to a hotel for a few days before forgiving him. He has a far greater hold on her than you or your office buddies do.

So instead of appealing to her directly - and you know this really isn't any of your business but WHY NOT - find out what family members she likes and tell them. They have a more vested and prolonged interest in her well-being than you do, and they'll be in a better position to assist her when she finally does want to get out of this relationship.

And finally, "asking the right questions" only works when the person is ambivilant about the situation, instead of having a set mind about it. I don't know, though, maybe Minion is actually the Godfather or Ghandi or something. I'm just a mere mortal, but I don't think it'd work here.

Funny, turns out our local paper has just concluded a story about this very issue. Including the phone number to the local crisis hotline.

Although trying to get through to her at this point is like running through a brick wall. All it does is land me on my ass. *sigh*

I really try to be a good friend to her, but it's getting hard the more she's getting herself screwed in this relationship (figuratively AND literally).

I would've gone with Rasputin or something. Bad analogy. Not very insulting. I'm afraid you might be losing your touch. :(

All you can really do is give her suggestions. I'm not saying: "Screw her, let her get her ass kicked." Oh no, I mean, all you can do is be her rock (I hate that term) if you really care about her. Some women just don't know when to give up on certain men. Some of them are blinded by fake smiles, fake promises or that good ol' American belief of: "Aw, he'll get better!"

It's good that you and your coworkers care but it will be hard if she seriously is infatuated with this guy.

No, it wasn't really meant to be insulting like that. Maybe you'd prefer it if I likened you to Jesus?

No, Jesus wasn't creepy enough. You might want to try something like a date rapist or child molester.

They are not very persuasive people, this is why they stick to children.

You do not understand the concept of humor nor friends.