I don't see a problem with it unless you're a 14 year old girl, RR

Look. I'm not saying I condone gang initiations (or gangs in general) but I have yet to hear about a Blood or a Crip being initiated by having his set go out and rape girls at random. If there's sex involved in an initiation it's usually because it's a girl who's being initiated and she was a willing participant seeing as how being "sexed in" is common among female gang members. Most members, both male and female, just get jumped in and the word "rape" is never a part of their MO.

I'll be with them niggas for their weaponry not for their surprise sex tendencies.

If she's under 16 (or 18 depending on the state/age of dudes) it's not sex, it's rape. :)

I'd go with the religious crowd since I have more faith in them having a self-sufficient society that lasts longer than basic looting/pillaging than any gang would. Not to mention I'd rather see a well educated religion take over the world than a bunch of hoodlums.

It's funny, even when driving through I liked Colorado a lot more than Vegas

Well, I did say I didn't condone it. I'm just saying that those girls have a great desire to be part of gang and their ability to make choices are warped by those desires.

Do you think that when the whole world is looting and pillaging a "self-sufficient" society won't be a prime target? Chaos will reign supreme and your pastor will be the first one of the villagers burned at the stake.

It may be a difference of definition, but when I think of a "self-sufficient" society, it would include the capability to keep itself safe. In a world without higher order, and without people to do that for them, they'd have to be able to do it themselves. With lots of raiding by the Bloods, they'll have to get very good at it, too.

I'm going to have to side with RR here; a self-sufficient society has a better chance of survival than a gang that is too stupid to try to set up some sort of protection racket in this post-Apocalyptic future.

Perhaps the Bloods aren't a good example of this but the 18th St. Gang of Los Angeles and the Almighty Vice Lord Nation of Chicago have themselves a nice little protection racket within their tightly-knit neighborhoods now. Why wouldn't they carry that over when the whole world is in utter chaos?

To quote Errol Flynn - "What is this word 'statutory'?"

Hmmm. I wonder if the floundering US economy and oil shortages we've been experiencing have anything to do with the fact that Russia attacked Georgia? How dare they! They obviously started it. I mean, would Georgia be so stupid as to initiate in a losing battle for territory and resources against Mother Russia?

(It probably has NOTHING to do with the baku tbilisi-ceyhan oil pipeline.)

I mean it would seem incomprehensible that the U.S would stand behind a state (outfitting them with high tech weaponry, military training and US mercenaries for hire) which seeks to secede from Russia through political ethnic cleansing as grounds for killing hundreds of not thousands of ethnic russians... all for the sake of economy and increased oil production.

Probably doesn't mean anything. And who really cares about such matters when there are far more important things to worry about, namely involving a Volleyball player who loses her engagement ring during a heated match, a single american citizen killed in Beijing and who John Edwards is currently sinking his dick into?

Don't you worry RainMan, the good'ole USA will settle things with those commie Russkies. I hear they've got quite a naval armada heading to the gulf right now. Although thats probably just for Iran... in any event isn't Russia good buddies with Iran?

Anyway, since this is primarily a video game forum, I'm sure people will be familiar with Ghost Recon:

Wow those wiki guys are fast... already they changed the description of this game to indicate it foreshadows the current war.

In any event, this is all obviously nothing to worry about. If GWB is able to have a great time at the Olympics during all of this, so should everyone else!

Considering the territory in question (South Ossetia) is officially Georgian territory, and has been since 1922, no, they wouldn't be so stupid.

You're saying Georgia is attempting to secede from Russia? Since Georgia has been seperate from Russia since 1921, and an independent state since 1991, Georgia has no need to secede from Russia.

Unless you're somehow confusing Georgia with Chechnya.