The legal system preaching is all well and good, but the legal system failed when it allowed the 18-year-old to be bailed out in the first place.

I support the father's decision to take matters into his own hands... although the wrench may have been going a bit too far.

True but I'm thinking that using a wrench-like tool is much more uncomfortable and damaging than his uh ...penis.

It depends on what end of the wrench he was using and what type. I wonder, is that what everyone is thinking here? That he's using the 'head' of the wrench? But when I was speaking of fucked up, I was talking about from the father's perspective. It's one thing to stick something up his ass as retribution, but it's a whole 'nother thing to fuck him yourself. Still I was thinking he was using the handle which to me is less disturbing than beating him with a bat as the punishment reflects the crime.

Hearing the disturbing grunt of a man behind as he literally fucks me, and then hearing/feeling the *possible* resulting ejaculation, from my perspective, would be much more damaging mentally than the physical damage that will eventually heal.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GO HOME? You just raped your stepsister. You're going to jail for a long time and everyone you've ever known will never look you in the eye again. GO FAR FAR AWAY AND NEVER COME BACK.

Kid's got plenty more rape in his future.

I don't think anyone really needed it to be illustrated like that.

That must've been a pretty intense father-son bonding experience.

Sounds like a great Law and Order episode

How the hell does someone simply post bail on someone who raped an 8-year old? Is it because he was 18 or because it was a family member? Why would they just let him out?

That's a difficult question to answer, but sometimes, yes, people don't stop loving their children when they did something terrible.

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No, I don't mean "why would the mother post bail on such monster blaurgh", I meant how does a rapist get out of jail after 12 hours with merely a bail?

Oh. Well, that's up to the judge to decide how much to post bail for. These things typically take into account flight risk, the danger the person may potentially pose on others, that sort of thing.

In which case yes, as the victim lives with the perpetrator, I don't know why bail was posted at all.

I don't know if that's justice, but it's certainly an eye for an eye.

I don't know if this is really something I condone but I'd like to think that since this kid was caught in the act that they'd have enough evidence to convict him. The father really should have sat down for a minute to think about a few things; like that his stepson could have gone away for a long time to a place where daily gangrape and brutal beatings are mandatory for creeps like this. Now he's probably going to join the kid in the defense side. :/

I don't know about this. I mean honestly if it was a Lifetime (television for women) story and the dad was a woman, she could probably EASILY get away with pleading temporary insanity because of what her stepson did and not worry about a thing because everyone would tilt their head, say that she is a powerful, proud woman, and let her go scott free.

But, since it was the dad that anally raped his stepson with a wrench, and the father is INDEED a man, even a temporary insanity case will be shot down because he has a pair of testicles. Which, I don't know about a lot of people, but I believe that the father would have been just as psychologically damaged as his daughter is right now. Even moreso given the fact that it was his stepson. But, also you got to admit that the news article in question did a DAMN good job in outlining that the father seemed like a scumbag criminal in the fact they listed about everything he did wrong in his life. So it's give or take.

Even if the perp had ovaries I don't think temporary insanity would work as this was clearly premeditated. Let's say you're able to suspend disbelief on the father picking up the kid thinking he'd be okay, and then suddenly loosing it. He'd have to take the wrench and bat with him, or mull over what he was going to do as he drove to that abandoned house. Temporary insanity is just that, temporary. The only way a jury would buy temporary insanity is if they just don't want to convict the guy to begin with.

That's some pretty tainted reasoning. The action was eye-for-eye, not eye-for-poorly-done-standup.

lol :tpg:

lol :tpg: again

But you're still *attempting to justify rape*. You realize the kind of person that makes you, right?

No. What?

Sure, let's set up the straw man and have at it.

That would make me a rapist, right?

I hope the kid doesn't get off on a lesser punishment because he got raped with a wrench.

If the Father goes to jail because what he dealt wasn't justice, then the punishment for the kid should be the same either way.

The way I look at it, the father was just doing that boy a favor. Now maybe he won't cringe so hard when he's taking black dick up the ass.

No, it makes you immoral and more than likely completely ignorant of what you're saying. Most idiots are self-aware, after all - you can't rate that at this point in time.

So, Lehah, are you saying that there are no circumstances which rape is justifiable?