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The_Griffin Nov 15, 2007 07:22 PM

Again, legality and morality have nothing to do with Ridan's claim.

His point was simply that it has become more popular, partly due to the RIAA's publicizing it through their scare tactics and litigation.

You can't deny that piracy HAS become more popular. I'm not saying that it's RIGHT (speaking as somebody who has downloaded music before), but I'm saying that it's happening more and more. Has it been because the RIAA's brought it into the limelight with their flurry of lawsuits? I don't know. My sister, at least, stopped pirating music years ago because she grew concerned over the possibility of being sued. But for every person that stopped pirating, there's at least two more that I know of that started, and the RIAA hasn't done jack shit to slow it down (and I doubt it can, to be honest).

Ridan Krad Nov 15, 2007 09:57 PM

As Griffin says, what I'm talking about is the actual effectiveness of the RIAA at stopping filesharing. They started going after it when it was just Napster, then later Kazaa, and now face a variety of P2P mediums, from Usenet, BitTorrent, and FTP servers, with traditional P2P methods like Limewire being the least of their concerns. This suggests that the RIAA's efforts to stop filesharing, while legally justified and even understandable, are not working.

I am not suggesting that this means that filesharing should be made legal. What I am saying is that all the money that the RIAA is throwing into litigation isn't even noticeably reducing the problem, let alone eliminating it.

BlueMikey Nov 15, 2007 10:57 PM

Why do you care what they do though?

Obviously, and this can't be said enough, it works for musicians because they have options. Many choose to stick with the Big Four despite all the things that everyone says are big and bad.

So if musicians keep on keepin' on, and you admit that filesharers are committing crimes, then what do you care if the RIAA decides to go after those people or not?

Ridan Krad Nov 16, 2007 01:58 AM

I don't care, per se. It's their business and they can run it as they see fit. It just doesn't seem like all their efforts are accomplishing much, besides providing a constructive defense of their copyrights. That said, the reason for my interest in this subject, I suppose, is that I wonder how this will be resolved (or if it even will be). Will copyright laws be redefined, the internet regulated, or will things continue merrily on as they have been? Basically, I find the RIAA's dilemma interesting, because I'm not sure how it can really be solved.

Cal Nov 16, 2007 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueMikey
So, what, musicians are the only people who can't decide how they get paid?

Musicians certainly can, but if they get cunty about it, we'll all know.

I think extant and future players in the music industry should fundamentally operate like buskers. The jury's still out on whether or not this would jeopardise the ability of artists to earn a living from art, and I daresay it'll rule in my favour. Tomorrow's labels will just have to focus hard on concert revenue (provided tomorrow's rockers aren't labels unto themselves).

We pay top dollar for a genuine painting and peanuts for a poster of Guernica. The industry solicitors should let poster duplication slide.

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So you go in to work today. Your boss calls you in, rips up your employment contract, and tells you that you are going to get paid what he feels like paying you. He's not going to tell you why he's paying that much, he's not going to tell you what he's going to pay you tomorrow.
Sounds like something we've got already.

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Originally Posted by LeHah
You don't understand the [blah blah flop mah cock about]...

On top of that, sales don't mean anything to a composer. Time and time again, a score doesn't ever get a release. Franz Waxman's score to the 1954 movie The Silver Chalice got released last month; do you think that he suddenly didn't get any work ever again because they didn't release this score for 53 years?

Lol gday reading comprehension o_].

BlueMikey Nov 16, 2007 11:32 AM

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Sounds like something we've got already.
Welcome to America. :P

I also haven't seen any National Days of Protest regarding the RIAA.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Nov 16, 2007 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal (Post 533711)
Lol gday reading comprehension o_].

If you're going to ask a question only to give an empty, worthless post as a reaction, stop opening your gob. Passive-aggressive trolling isn't taken kindly by people who actually bring something to the table.

Cal Nov 16, 2007 10:55 PM

If you'd put it back in your pants, you might realise we're not disagreeing on that point. Album sales are irrelevant to a composer's ability to get paid or re-employed.

Have you always been like this?


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