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Golfdish from Hell Oct 19, 2007 03:30 PM

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There are plenty of counterexamples; Beyond Good and Evil, for instance. But it's a completely incidental issue; people can become familiar with a game's music by playing it, whether there's an OST or even a rip (BG&E is again a good example).
No kidding...Ever wonder why they didn't get to making a BG&E sequel? BG&E, I wouldn't oppose, but I'd point out it had two songs that made top 16 in a BSC and one that won gold in SOTW. I think if it had a soundtrack released or if more people had played it, I'd vote "nay". As is...2 tracks from it aren't going to make me declare it well-known.

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As I said before, I think that the main series should be off-limits but gaidens are fine. Children of Mana (which I have never played) is a gaiden, not part of the main series, as is MM X Command Mission and the other MM tracks that have been put up for SoTW. Therefore, they're eligible as far as I'm concerned.
How is it determined the GB games aren't considered a gaiden of sorts? Not that MM has much of a canon anymore, but I don't see them fitting in the classic series. And the X series WAS a spinoff of the original series to begin with.

As a counterexample, I wouldn't oppose a Dawn of Mana track simply because it was "Seiken Densetsu IV". I don't think anyone gave a damn about that soundtrack upon release. Considering the concentrated lengths Square is going to pimp this series now (much like KH and Final Fantasy), I don't know if I'd differentiate between "main series" and "gaiden" quite so easily. I just know the only two Mana soundtracks I'd directly oppose would be SD2 and SD3.

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You obviously disagree; fine. If the issue ever comes up, our votes will cancel each other out and everyone else will decide what's eligible. Let's leave it at that.
Yeah, it ain't so much fun when people make a concentrated effort to find stuff to bitch about, so I figured I'd give you a taste of your own medicine, while making the point that the SOTW "eligibility" based on obscurity is often borderline BS in the process. I was going to point out Stage 2 is hardly what I would consider "thrash" or "thrashing", but the Mana thing in light of last week's Megaman discussion was much more glaring.

orion_mk3 Oct 19, 2007 03:38 PM

Right, sure, whatever. I'm through arguing in circles with you about it.

Golfdish from Hell Oct 19, 2007 03:43 PM

And I never tire of finding the inconsistancies and inherent juvenile biases in your arguments. It gets to be sort of a minigame after awhile...

Kaleb.G Oct 19, 2007 11:13 PM

3 points - Sword Maniac - Shadow Devourer
2 points - Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire (Red Book Audio) - Stage 2 (AD1163)
1 point - Alphabet Planet - 1 plus 1 equal 1

I dig the early 90's style of "Shadow Devourer". Even has parts that remind me of Contra 3, Hiroki Kikuta, and Chocolate Rain.

"Stage 2" was solid all around; I would be pleased if it got the gold.

Everything else was decent, but didn't stick with me. "1+1=1" just got a point for its Kikuta-ness and good production.


And now, for a nomination!

=== Kaleb.G ===
* Album Title: Spyro the Dragon (PS1 Game Rip)
* Artist: Stewart Copeland
* Track Title: Dark Hollow
* Source: GameFAQs, IMDB, etc.
* File Location: uploading to NOM NOM folder soon
* Year: 1998

It's rather low on melody, but I found it memorable over the years.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Oct 20, 2007 07:00 AM

For all the divisive arguing, regardless of my own opinions, one thing strikes me oddly, Goldfish:

You haven't nominated anything at all. Where orion's nomination may actually be too mainstream (it does cut very close), he's at least putting something up. The nomination queue has been scant lately; it could use some padding.

Got anything to offer, Goldfish?


Never mind! I'm blind! :D

THE POWER OF WATER Oct 20, 2007 07:25 AM

Yeah, he actually nominated something from The Legend of Heroes: Sora no Kiseki Second Chapter.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Oct 20, 2007 07:31 AM

How in the HELL did I miss that? I even went through the thread to check for nominations.

I fucking need some coffee or...something. New lenses perhaps.

Rimo Oct 20, 2007 02:48 PM

I listened to the whole bunch. Now, here's my verdict:

(2 points) Faraway Moon - if it dies rather -short.rm-
(2 points) Sword Maniac - Shadow Devourer
(1 point) Alphabet Planet - 1 plus 1 equal 1
(1 point) Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire (Red Book Audio) - Stage 2 (AD1163)

I was especially delighted to hear trance in the Faraway Moon track.

Shanks Oct 20, 2007 07:23 PM

NONIMATION:

Artist: Manabu Namiki
Album: dodonpachi DAI-OU-JOU KE-TSU-I kizunajigokutachi ORIGINAL SOUND TRACK
Track Title: DEFENSIVE LINE - Lurk in the Darkness (Stage4)
Disc Number: 1 (of 1)
Track Number: 07
Catalog Number: CVST-0000
Year: 2003
Source: Game Music Revolution

Drakken Oct 20, 2007 08:39 PM

Pretty weak week. I have to say I'm quite frankly, shocked, that Shadow Devourer isn't winning, or at least in strong contention. Like Mad Buffoon from Sword Maniac, I consider it a gem, so the fact that people don't care for it kind of puzzles me. Oh well.

The first few songs this week - 1 plus 1, Castle in the Sky, and if it dies - were particularly boring. The Kikuta piece might sound nice, but it doesn't do much for me. Castle in the Sky was uninspiring, and as for if it dies...well, it's not likely that a dance/trance song is ever going to get points from me, particularly when it has all the cliche drum beats that you would expect from the genre.

Stage 2, Title, and The Journey were probably the best this week had to offer (aside from Shadow Devourer). Neither Stage 2 nor Title had me going ga-ga, but they were solid. The Journey had a nice melody; shame the quality isn't better. The Fly was OK; too hyper/chaotic, though.

As for Shadow Devourer, again, I think it's awesome. It's got a great funky start, and Sakimoto does a good job of slowly building things up into the next funkin' part a little after the minute mark. Also, nice work on the toms (and drums in general) throughout to complement things.

3 pts. - Shadow Devourer
1 pt. - Stage 2
1 pt. - Title
1 pt. - The Journey

Chuckster Oct 20, 2007 09:09 PM

I had a tough time deciding between Faraway Moon and Alphabet Planet. Toyed with giving each two, but felt that the rest certainly weren't only one point worse than the top track of the week.

(3 points) Faraway Moon - if it dies rather -short.rm-
(2 points) Alphabet Planet - 1 plus 1 equal 1
(1 point) Cotton 2 ~Magical Night Dreams~ - The Castle in the Sky

KyleDunamis Oct 20, 2007 09:38 PM

Well, Halloween's coming up, I'll nominate something appropriate, not sure how it'll do, but I get most of my noms from whatever I'm playing at the moment, and I won't subject SotW to Maka Maka music :)

Devil Summoner Sound File
Disc 2 (Arrange Disc)
Track 1
Overture ~ Song of Death
Kou Mizoguchi

Drakken Oct 20, 2007 10:54 PM

Nom:

Album: Catan (XBLA rip)
Artist: Holly Tatnall
Track: Soothing Theme
Track #: 2 (of 4)
Year: 2007
Source: Me (ripper)
Location: My hard drive

isdapi Oct 21, 2007 03:25 AM

NOMINATION (My first Gamadelic one!)
  • Composer: Hiroaki Yoshida
  • Album: Dragon Gun
  • Track Title: DRAGON GUN ~Divine Flame~
  • Disc Number: 1 (of 1)
  • Track Number: 1
  • Catalog Number: PCCB-00117
  • Year: 1993
  • Source: PCCB-00117: Dragon Gun - VGMdb beta

I'll vote later on today.

Additional Spam:
This week leaves me a bit disappointed.

(2 points) Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire (Red Book Audio) - Stage 2 (AD1163)
(2 points) Alphabet Planet - 1 plus 1 equal 1
(1 point) Sword Maniac - Shadow Devourer
(1 point) Ultima Online (Game Rip) - The Journey (Outtake)

Dhsu Oct 21, 2007 10:07 AM

<nomination nominator="Dhsu">
<artist> Pas de Chat </artist>
<game> Umihara Kawase (SNES Game Rip) </game>
<title> Kawanabe Theme </title>
<disc> 1 of 1 </disc>
<track> 2 </track>
<catalog> None </catalog>
<year> 1994 </year>
<info> Yeah, I made this an XML document, bite me. </info>
<source> Game profile: Umi Hara Kawa Se ~ SNESmusic.org </source>
</nomination>

ikkei Oct 21, 2007 01:03 PM

Nothing stood out for me, but I found these 3 rather interesting:

2 points ~ Faraway Moon - if it dies rather -short.rm-
2 points ~ Alphabet Planet - 1 plus 1 equal 1
2 points ~ Oxyd (Atari ST Game Rip) - Title

Liontamer Oct 21, 2007 03:49 PM

Any issues, lemme know; will try to upload by the end of the day today, though I'm assuming many of y'all have it.

Here's the nom:

Album: Portal
Composed By: Jonathan Coulton (vocals performed by Ellen McLain)
Catalog Number: n/a
Track: Still Alive
Track: 12
Disc: n/a
Released On: October 10, 2007
Source(s): direct from game's audio files, Portal (video game) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

surasshu Oct 21, 2007 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CHz (Post 516269)
  • Artist: surasshu (Steven Velema)
  • Album/Game Title: Force Majeure (Demo Game Rip)
  • Track Title: title
  • Year: 2007
  • Sources: Monokey ยป Games, game documentation
Regarding the odd album title on this one: the full version of this game has yet to be finished and released. It is possible that this track could be absent from the final version or the game could never be completed at all, although I'd rank those possibilities as "unlikely" and "who knows" respectively. If you're antsy about treating a demo of a game as an actual game (kind of like unreleased games), dude's got a bunch of VGM composition credits too, so just treat this as an original composition.

This is a super great honour, I don't really know what to say! Thanks! I've never really had anyone that I don't know personally praise my music in any way, so this is really awesome.

The track will definitely be present in the final version, and in fact there is an arcade-style opening/intro that's supposed to be synced with it. We just didn't finish it in time and haven't updated it since. We'll definitely finish the game, too... We think! :D

Elorin Oct 21, 2007 06:21 PM

Here are my votes:

(2 points) Faraway Moon - if it dies rather -short.rm-

(2 points) Ultima Online (Game Rip) - The Journey (Outtake)

(2 points) Alphabet Planet - 1 plus 1 equal 1

Sorry, oion, I couldn't get around to converting the Ultima track into mp3. The tools I have can't convert midi into mp3. That and I don't have one of those nifty Roland or Sound Blaster soundcards. :(

Shanks Oct 21, 2007 08:23 PM

(3 Points) Faraway Moon - if it dies rather -short.rm-
(1 Points) Sword Maniac - Shadow Devourer
(1 Points) Alphabet Planet - 1 plus 1 equal 1
(1 Points) Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire (Red Book Audio) - Stage 2 (AD1163)

orion_mk3 Oct 21, 2007 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Elorin (Post 519330)
Sorry, oion, I couldn't get around to converting the Ultima track into mp3. The tools I have can't convert midi into mp3. That and I don't have one of those nifty Roland or Sound Blaster soundcards. :(

I feel your pain. There are several files I've been trying to convert properly for years, but they'll only play properly (to my ears) on an ancient machine. And I've got a disk full of John Ottman tracks from IHNMAIMS that are musically brilliant but trapped in oh-so-tinny form :(

TheKnightOfNee Oct 21, 2007 08:59 PM

Hmm, wonder if this will come up in time for Halloween...

Album: Zombies Ate My Neighbors (SNES Rip)
Artist: Joe McDermott
Title: Mars Needs Cheerleaders
Track Number: 6
Year: 1993
Source: Game profile: Zombies Ate My Neighbors ~ SNESmusic.org
Notes: There is a rip up on galbadia hotel, but it doesn't loop anything. The songs in this game are fairly short to begin with, so I'd rather see it up with a loop.

THE POWER OF WATER Oct 21, 2007 11:09 PM

Voting is closed and nominations are restricted!

1). [29] Alphabet Planet - 1 plus 1 equal 1
2). [22] Faraway Moon - if it dies rather -short.rm-
3). [16] Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire (Red Book Audio) - Stage 2 (AD1163)
4). [14/9] Sword Maniac - Shadow Devourer
5). [14/8.5] Oxyd (Atari ST Game Rip) - Title
6). [11] Cotton 2 ~Magical Night Dreams~ - The Castle in the Sky
7). [9] Ultima Online (Game Rip) - The Journey (Outtake)
8). [5] SILENT SCOPE TRILOGY Original Soundtrack - THE FLY -Valley-

Liontamer Oct 22, 2007 12:51 AM

My picks went 1, 3, 2 compared to the results, but all in all not bad.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Oct 22, 2007 12:54 AM

I'm more amazed that we got enough "new" nominators to fill an entire week. I was at #2 on the waiting list and got shoved into a whole new week. That's so impressive I'm not even upset.


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