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DarkLink2135 Sep 24, 2007 01:51 PM

Piracy is wrong by the pure definition of the word. If you have to sugarcoat what you do to feel better about yourself, and pretend you aren't doing anything wrong, that's pretty pathetic. Otherwise just admit you are breaking the law and move on. If you feel bad because of it, stop pirating. If you don't, well, keep doing it until you get caught.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Sep 24, 2007 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Musharraf (Post 507522)
If I had to pay for CDs and movies, I couldn't buy any food anyway. I would have to starve, man!!

Then the answer is simple - you deserve to die by starvation.

The unmovable stubborn Sep 24, 2007 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135 (Post 507527)
Piracy is wrong by the pure definition of the word.

Which word?

knkwzrd Sep 24, 2007 03:27 PM

I have never understood the objection to pirating music. No artist makes money selling albums, they make money touring and selling merchandise. Artists, by and large, get less than 1/100 of the cost of a CD per sale. That means your album would have to go platinum for you make about minimum wage. Selling out an arena at $100 a ticket, on the other hand, garners a bit more revenue.

Dark Nation Sep 24, 2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah (Post 507535)
Then the answer is simple - you deserve to die by starvation.

Or he needs to increase his Income (Get a better job) to allow for the legal purchase of Media, because someone who would starve if they bought movies and DVDs has other priorities and should not be engaging in such frivolous consumerism. He (Niczo) is being especially hypocritical I noticed in this aspect.

Also,
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Originally Posted by LeHah
Two wrongs don't make a right.

What I think Skexis was trying to convey was that the Pirate Bay was
using the same tools as employed by the **AA in this lawsuit to enact a resolution, or as the phrase goes "Fighting Fire with Fire". I could be mistaken though.

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Originally Posted by Niczo
Most artists wouldn't be known today if it wasnt for the record industry, handing them contracts and advertising their music.

You mean, up to this point in the general scope of Music History. The brilliant thing about the Internet and mass media these days is that Artists now readily have the tools to become self-sufficient in promotion, production, distribution and thereby gaining an audience! No Record Contracts, No Tours, No Bullshit!

Misogynyst Gynecologist Sep 24, 2007 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by knkwzrd (Post 507544)
I have never understood the objection to pirating music. No artist makes money selling albums, they make money touring and selling merchandise.

I don't disagree - but what artist is going to tour if he's not selling CDs and what management agency is going to front the money for a concert if there are no CD sales to make it possible?

Its a big, big circle.

DarkLink2135 Sep 24, 2007 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 507539)
Which word?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it was probably "Piracy."

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Sep 24, 2007 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135 (Post 507584)
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it was probably "Piracy."

You are so precious.

The unmovable stubborn Sep 24, 2007 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135 (Post 507584)
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it was probably "Piracy."

I am interested in what dictionary you have where the definitions of words include moral judgments about right and wrong.

DarkLink2135 Sep 24, 2007 06:19 PM

I didn't say a single thing about morality in this. Lots of things can be right and immoral, or wrong and moral. Right and wrong are simply legalistic terms. If it was legal in a country to practice cannibalism, would that make it moral?

But according to
piracy - Definitions from Dictionary.com
it's illegal.

It's not actually that hard of a concept if you really take the time to think about it.

The unmovable stubborn Sep 24, 2007 06:23 PM

Wait, what?

"Right" and "Wrong" are concepts confined entirely to law, now?

I didn't realize I was speaking to a child. :(

DarkLink2135 Sep 24, 2007 06:24 PM

I am NOT getting into a definition war in a thread about media piracy on GamingForce.

I've said what I want to say, if you want to bitch about definitions, feel free, but I'm not going to take part in that. That wasn't the point of my original post in here.

Little Brenty Brent Brent Sep 24, 2007 06:27 PM

The only place your dictionary.com definition mentions piracy being illegal are the entries regarding unauthorized radio/television broadcasts and violence at sea. If you're going to nitpick then at least read the definitions you give people. =/

lol you're not going to get into a definition war after you bring it up. Okay.

DarkLink2135 Sep 24, 2007 06:29 PM

I didn't bring it up. Pangalin did.

But if you really want me to:

2. the unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted book, recording, television program, patented invention, trademarked product, etc.: The record industry is beset with piracy.

You don't read very well, you know that?

Dark Nation Sep 24, 2007 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135 (Post 507598)
But according to
piracy - Definitions from Dictionary.com
it's illegal.

I too, can quote from websites! =D

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Originally Posted by Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
1. practice of a pirate; robbery or illegal violence at sea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by American Heritage Dictionary
3. The operation of an unlicensed, illegal radio or television station.

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Originally Posted by Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law
1 : an act of robbery esp. on the high seas; specifically : an illegal act of violence


DarkLink2135 Sep 24, 2007 06:31 PM

Well, pangalin did want to know what dictionary I got my definition from. I didn't technically get it from there, since I thought the definition of piracy was pretty much common knowledge, but I thought it best to get it from somewhere halfway authoritative.

EDIT: Damn. Just got into a definition war =/.

Little Brenty Brent Brent Sep 24, 2007 06:36 PM

If you'd like to explain to me how, within the scope of your definition only, "unauthorized" means "illegal" that would be great. You don't read very well, and you're not very smart on top of it, you know that?

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135 (Post 507527)
Piracy is wrong by the pure definition of the word.

And just for your info, since you seem to have memory lapses on top of your multitude other of issues, you brought up definitions.

DarkLink2135 Sep 24, 2007 06:39 PM

You people are fucking stupid. But I suppose I'm even worse for feeding the trolls.

The unmovable stubborn Sep 24, 2007 06:39 PM

Who's bitching? Look, let's just pick a source and go from there.

Do you have a copy of the OED

Little Brenty Brent Brent Sep 24, 2007 06:40 PM

By what definition of the word are we stupid?

DarkLink2135 Sep 24, 2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent (Post 507616)
By what definition of the word are we stupid?

Funny this one is :).

The unmovable stubborn Sep 24, 2007 06:43 PM

Is "Stupid" a moral or a legal term :(

DarkLink2135 Sep 24, 2007 06:46 PM

Moralistic. Notice how I attached the adjective "fucking" before it. That implies the concept of adultery, which everyone knows, is a moral gray area. At least in America.

Little Brenty Brent Brent Sep 24, 2007 06:46 PM

Well I don't know many lawyers, but the ones I do know aren't stupid so by process of elimination I conclude it is a moral term.

Furthermore, assuming that DarkLink's claim that we're stupid is correct, we are thus moral beings. Ergo, my superior morality demands you fuck off.

The unmovable stubborn Sep 24, 2007 06:48 PM

I would propose that stupidity is a purely legal construct as otherwise we would not have legal measures for dealing with retards


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