Well, definitely on the racing game cred of most people. Nothing wrong with passion. I mean, if anyone had mentioned Burnout, especially in the context of "for the 'Racing'", they'd need a serious verbal smack upside the head. I think most people owe it to themselves to play TOCA, that game is to racing as Gran Turismo is to garage tuning (no cheapshot intended if it seems implied).

MotoGP... I can only say its steep as fuck learning curve nearly had me feeling the same way as you. It's a shame the latest version turned out shittier than its original X-Box counterpart.

Anyway, Gran Turismo is by no MEANS a "bad game." I know that I expect certain things from certain game genres. Racing is a particular favorite of mine. However, I usually have to be careful when making criticism, because a lot of players/gamers/whatevers tend to get upset with a game based off what they want it to be rather than what it is. And it's fucking hilarious when they can't make a distinction between lack of quality and a personal fucking problem.

The screnshots showing the cars from the outside look outstanding, although I'd like to see a side-by-side comparison with Forza, just for fun. What's bugging me right now is that the cockpit view looks just a little bit more blurry and grainy than I'd expect from the latest hi-def console. Can someone please tell me that's a problem with the image quality of that particular screenshot, not with the game?

I don't own a PS3, but I anticipate playing a lot of this round at my friend's house. He's got PS3, and I imagine he'll be only too grateful for a new game to play on it. The ones he's got right now are wearing real thin due to lack of variety.

Yes, obviously. It's just a random-ass shot from some Japanese blog, because I haven't see any other images showing the cockpit view yet. I just posted it because it's an improvement to have that view at all, previous Gran Turismo games didn't. And, at any rate, not that you can ever really judge the graphics quality of a 1080p game from a screenshot of that size.

Also, by the time Gran Turismo 5 will be released, PS3 will have already have a shitton of other good games.

That's 'cause no one posted a quality version yet.

I shall help you folks in that regard. Here:

http://i15.tinypic.com/6c7cqc3.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/4ts5ds7.jpg

Yeah true, the real resolution would fill my monitor, and then some.

So... this isn't coming out soon, then? Damn. I'm sorry, I don't really know the release schedule. All I know is that the system will have games I would want, but they aren't out now.

God damn.

That's really all I can say.

All I can say is wow. Those are some seriously impressive screenshots.

It's coming out sometime in 2008, spring at the earliest, though I wouldn't be surprised if it got delayed. Though, Sony has promised that a downloadable Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (demo with online play, basically) will be available later this year.

Don't go assuming that crazy photomode pic is what it's actually gonna look like and stuff. There was similar trickery done in the photomode of GT4, if you think back to it.

You wanna shot of what its actually gonna look like in motion and shit?

I take back my "wow".

Not exactly the smoothest edges there. If it runs at a constant 60 fps it won't matter much though.

Oh I see the retardo faction has taken over my thread

hey guys what about the following: instead of randomly posting screenshots from random "internet websites" (source?) or - even better - producing verbal diarrhea like "this aint a good racin' game if you like racin' games play Oblivion ........... its not exactly a racin' game but ...... ya know..[...]....", we could just wait for the game and have a cup of tea.... hows that

Yeah, then we may as well close all the threads covering games that haven't come out yet, shouldn't we?

Wait....what? You want a thread that doesn't discuss the game at all? You're saying my additional screenshots had a *negative* impact on this thread? especially considering where it was at on the last page there?

You've got to be fucking kidding me, here. The hell do you want us to talk about? What we're doing to pass the time until it comes out?http://colonelskills.belkanairforce....ages/ace/1.gif

Nonono, you misunderstand me. I want you guys to discuss this upcoming game, but I don't exactly want this thread to become a discussion platform for people who want to discuss whether GT is a racing simulation series or not and how they would rather play other games where they can crash cars etc. http://forumimages.somethingawful.co...ies/emot-q.gif

The discussion is fine after the point Dopefish removed himself from it; I don't think passingly mentioning another racing game in a thread about a different racing game should be seen as a massive problem. That's how a discussion 'thread' works, you start with one topic and it's possible that you'll touch upon others along the way.

Tangents fucking happen. Unless we all want to homogenize.

New facts concerning GT 5 Prologue:

1. Gran Turismo 5 Prologue is due to be released worldwide in 26th October 2007, at the launch of the Tokyo Motor Show.
2. At the 2007 Games Convention in Leipzig, Germany, President of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (SCEE) David Reeves confirmed certain details about the upcoming game. He confirmed that there will be 16-player online races, 50 cars, 5 tracks, and the game will support full 1080p resolution.

Sounds pretty good! :)

Yea, it looks pretty good, even for a demo. Check out this gameplay vid, if you haven't seen it yet. http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23974.html
There's a new setting in the options called driving physics, which was set to standard, there could be an arcadey setting or even a harder setting that will be closer to real life driving physics. It also looks like there will be some clutch support in this game, look at the accelerator bar, it turns red when the player goes up a gear. I don't know if this was previously announced, but I'm really looking forward to prologue and the full GT5.

Little update:

GT 5 Prologue will be released in Europe as a free demo on October 20th 2007 and the retail, Blu-Ray version and PS Store version will be released in Europe on December 13th 2007.

I'll give credit where credit is due, that interior looks amazing. I figured out that it was a Audi R8 before I noticed that it was a all Audi R8 race. :P

I've heard that they are gonna charge for the demo in Japan, and are considering charging for it here in America (if you live here, I do :P).

Create an European account and download the FREE European demo. Problem solved.

Imagine how the game would look in 720p.

First, I would have to buy a PS3 :P

Oh, by the way, the Blu-Ray Disc version will cost $43.10 (¥4,980), the PSN Download version $38.95 (¥4,500) in Japan. This is quite freaking much for a "demo" (and Prologue is not really more than a demo).

Also, a demo of a demo, lol!