Now if they modified the controller so that it was some stupid ass motion sensor crap, then I might believe that, but coming on the heels of Sonys recent price drop, logic would conclude it's got to do with that.

Also what russ said.

The price drop might convince me to buy a 360 Elite. Then again, the PS3 "price drop" is pretty tempting as well. Do the Elite still suffer the three lights of death as often as the other system types?

Yes, of course they do.

Also, haha, Guru, you gotta be shitting me. 360 competing with Wii and not with PS3? I'm not sure, maybe you were kidding? Wii is in a completely different class, and has been since the very start. 360 is the direct competitor of PS3.

This makes sense. They're slipping the prices down to make it look like it's a huge saving, when actually it's just making the 360 Elite the same price as the 360 Pro.

What's the difference between the Elite and the current 360, aside from 20 -> 120 GB HDD, different colour, and whatever other shit the Elite has differently (internally) about it over the current console?

it as the HDMI output too.

A price drop is always good to me. I just hate when they just do some bundle with games that most people don't want >.>

I figured they'd do this once they rolled out those new fancy 65nm chips anyway.

Plus, Gaylo 3 is on the way, so it'll scoop up the kiddies who have to have mommy & daddy buy their console and game and XBL subscription. I mean, what is Gaylo on XBL without some little kids screaming "FUCKFUCKSHITASSHOLE YOU BITCH MOTHERFUCKER COCK LICKING SHIT ROCKET FUCK FUCK ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAHH!!!~~"

I'll tell you what it is: fun.

At least buying a 360 is now cheaper than upgrading my computer. I was going to upgrade to play Bioshock at decent graphics, but a 360 would shave about $75 or so from my "Bioshock bill" and that's pretty cool.

Next time a game comes around and I don't got the rig to play it and I begin to think 'dis way again, I gonna get me a 360 too. Probably. *_*
Got 'nuff of dumpin' loads of dough on upgrades just to play what? 3 games and then upgrade again for the cost of a new console?

Regardless of what anyone says, the Wii is still a gaming system. And in the gaming business, it's all about market share.

Just because "hardcore gamers" don't see the Wii as serious competition doesn't meant that Microsoft (and Sony) aren't planning on doing things to compete directly with the Wii. To try and deny that is simply idiotic.

Yeah, but you wouldn't exactly say that Fiat is competing with Porsche, would you?

You also wouldn't say that there are only 3 cars in the world that people have to choose from, would you?

Silly analogy.

The Wii will be serious competition when it actually gets some games.

The Elite price drop is looking mighty nice though. I'm getting an HDTV soon and the thought of playing Ace Combat 6 in HDMI is better than sex.

Can we go back to discussing the price drop with a little less Nintendo posing, please.

Tails...tails...tails...

Just because you don't see the Wii as serious competition doesn't mean that Microsoft and Sony don't. Just because you're not interested in buying a Wii doesn't mean that Microsoft wouldn't like to be in Nintendo's position, being the only console Joe Consumer chooses to buy. That is competition, folks. When people are only picking up one console to meet their gaming needs, Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft all want to be that one console.

That's why I don't see this potential price drop as competition with Sony so much as I see it as an effort to get on an equal playing field with Nintendo.

So basically what you're saying is that Microsoft would love to have continuous shortages of their product and a laughable presentation that's geared towards soccer moms and kids. Look, the whole point of this price drop is painfully obvious to anybody who doesn't have blinders over their eyes. Can we just stop trolling the 360 threads already.

I don't understand playing on an equal field with Nintendo. Nintendo isn't even IN THE LEAD. What the fuck.

what we're saying is, we wanna keep up with those guys in second

HUH

The Wii hasn't even been out a year, give it some time and it's just gonna dominate everything alongside the DS.

Mostly because it's cheap and affordable, and doing well in Japan because of it. And there's a modchip available already. But yeah there's just a couple of games for the Wii worth owning.

The 360's been expensive and that's pretty much put a lot of people off buying one. Now there's a price cut, people will either take interest, or they're no longer interested and won't do anything. It's also failing in Japan despite iDOLM@STER, Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, etc. Japanese Marketplace is also shitty.

I pretty much don't care for any of these "next gen" consoles to be honest, but the cheapest usually wins. Even if the Wii's, like, non-HD and totally not in the same departments (specification-wise) as the PS3 and 360, it's doing so well that it's difficult not to be taken seriously. While in the midst of all this, the consumers are reaping the benefits due to their prices being lowered.

Did I mention Nintendo's profiting from their consoles being sold, yet Sony and Microsoft aren't?

Who is in the lead anyway?

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Could you be on Japans nuts any harder. I don't see how being the "cheapest" benefits if the novelty of the console wears off after a few hours.

It's shit like this that makes our gaming forum look worse than GameFAQs.

There have been multiple big games, be it from a sales standpoint or an entry into a well loved series, or whatever. Just because you don't like them, doesn't mean there isn't "something" on the system.

Pro-tip: Learn to differentiate your taste from fact when you're trying to argue. It'll make you look a lot less retarded.

If Nintendo could keep up with the demand, they could probably easily sell enough Wiis through this holiday season to take the lead. If you count worldwide sales, by the end of August, Nintendo will have shipped more Wiis worldwide than 360s. Nintendo won't suprass 360s in North America until 2008, when (if?) they ramp up Wii production. But WiiFit pretty much is going to ensure market leadership in North America by the end of 2008, no ifs, ands or buts.

That is competition. No matter how much you say the Wii sucks is going to change that.

The 360 was cool at $400 back when they didn't have competition. But now they do, and they're reacting. This is why competition is good for gamers. And that's why I may consider pickup up a 360 for myself at some point ;)

No. We won't be that bad until we have our "Who would win in a fight? Sephiroth, Cloud or Goku?" threads.

PS. All the next gen consoles blow. The Dreamcast is superior to all.

I don't mind competition, it keeps things from becoming a one sided monopoly-ish, but uh

WiiFit is going to ensure...are you, WHERE ARE THE FUCKING GAMES. If I wanted an exercise machine I'd buy one or join a gym. I don't buy a video game console for that kind of nonsense. What's next, Richard Simmons developing an exclusive workout program for the Wii?

Until Nintendo starts putting out stuff actually worth buying, I say they're going to fall flat on their face. With all the releases heading the 360s way this fall/winter, I say the 360 has more than just a chance to keep- if not extend their influence in the market.

Also, complete agreeance with Miles. ALL HAIL THE DREAMCAST.

Bah, we've come pretty close.

Also, fuck you. 3DO for life, dawg.http://colonelskills.belkanairforce....ages/ace/1.gif

The Dreamcast would be superior to all if it had ever seen those seventeen Shenmue chapters that people were promised. =/

Get out. Vectrex is where it's at.

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Superior.

/denial

See, Tails, the problem is that you're not realizing that Nintendo has gone and done something that nobody has done before, in making a console that appeals to more people than just you. Maybe it doesn't suit your tastes, but it's created a new level of competition for the consoles that do. That's all I'm trying to say. And you just keep telling me I'm wrong because you think the Wii sucks. Great argument there =P

I don't think the Wii library is going to be suffering all that much longer, now that publishers have taken notice about how many people own the system. They were all in denial too, initially. Couple that with great first party games like SSBB, Metroid Prime Corruption, Super Mario Galaxy... we'll just have to agree to disagree on that whole "nothing worth owning" bit.