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Kaiten Mar 22, 2006 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucas-AMN
Sonic Team didn't make Sonic Rush. It was outsourced. Also, Naka directed Sonic the Hedgehog 2, 3, Knuckles, and Sonic Adventure. After that, Takashi Iizuka took command. For the record, Iizuka is the director of SA2, Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, and Sonic Riders. Naka had some imput on Sonic Adventure 2, but that was the extent of it. Notice the decent in quality with each game as Naka had less and less to do with the series and Takashi was given more directorial reign? Takashi Iizuka was given Sonic to handle because Naka cared more about catering to Phantasy Star since he actually created that. For the record, Naka didn't create Sonic. He just takes credit for it. Naoto Oshima (talented artist and director who created Sonic CD and left Sega shortly after Sonic Adventure due to lack of credit for his creations) created Sonic, but that's no insult to Naka's directorial talent. Point is, if Naka leaves, Takashi Iizuka probobly gets full reign of Sonic Team. In that case, you can kiss hopes of ever getting another quality Sonic game goodbye for keeps.

Face it, Sonic is now given about the respect of a licensed children's mascot when it comes to gaming. If this new Sonic game might be Naka's last work, then I will retire from Sonic the Hedgehog after it's completion. It's not worth the time and money to play games from Takashi Iizuka.
Hopefully Naka's involvement in the next Sonic game could bode well for the game. Might as well go out with a bang as opposed to leaving a legacy that pisses everyone off. I just wish STI would come back, the work done on Sonic 2 & 3 was so spectacular, I'm confused why Sega hasn't called them back.

Matt Mar 22, 2006 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Megalith
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?op...=2515&Itemid=2

He is reforming Smilebit and Team Andromeda. Why lie.
Can someone confirm this.

Chronciler Mar 22, 2006 10:25 PM
It's kind of sad, actually.

Regardless of whether Sonic has been a viable gaming platform since the twilight of the Genesis or not, this would be another nail in the coffin of my nostalgic "good old days" of gaming. It already seems like Sega releases next to nothing for the current crop of consoles. They may as well close up shop and call it a day.

*sigh* So much for the days when Sega and Nintendo could be counted on for dozens of titles a year (even if they weren't all classics material).

Kaiten Mar 23, 2006 12:26 AM
Yes, the glory days of Sega and the Sonic Team are over. But with the next gen Sonic game, there is hope. Hopefully Naka (as he says) will go back to the series' roots and make a game that's as good as the likes of the original Sonic.

Lukage Mar 23, 2006 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by www.sega.co.jp
Yes, the glory days of Sega and the Sonic Team are over. But with the next gen Sonic game, there is hope. Hopefully Naka (as he says) will go back to the series' roots and make a game that's as good as the likes of the original Sonic.
Not sure if ya knew, but the original SEGA might be closer than we think. Apparently they're the ones that were pushing the classic games on the Rev.

evilboris Mar 23, 2006 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JasonTerminator
I'd be willing to bet that Yu Suzuki is much, much more respected than Yuji Naka. That man is a legend, while Naka is a hack.
Well said. Yu Suzuki created perhaps the most groundbreaking arcade games since the early eighties. Yuji Naka did what...? Coded Sonic 1 and Nights. And Phantasy Star. Wow. And according to people who worked with him, he was also an egoist asshole.

Also:
http://www.interactive.org/awards.php?halloffame

I see both Yu Suzuki and Shigeru Miyamoto in there... but not Naka, surprise, surprise.

vuigun Mar 23, 2006 12:31 PM
I've heard that Shun Nakamura is going to replace Yuji Naka

*Probably a Dramatization*

Yuji Naka: "Everyone keeps blaming me for these Horrible Sonic games. If I quit then I can start a new life and play Phantasy Star Online for eternity!"

It's the perfect plan...

Kaiten Mar 23, 2006 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by evilboris
Well said. Yu Suzuki created perhaps the most groundbreaking arcade games since the early eighties. Yuji Naka did what...? Coded Sonic 1 and Nights. And Phantasy Star. Wow. And according to people who worked with him, he was also an egoist asshole.

Also:
http://www.interactive.org/awards.php?halloffame

I see both Yu Suzuki and Shigeru Miyamoto in there... but not Naka, surprise, surprise.
I also heard was the reason STI was not involved in Sonic anymore. Where has that gotten him?
He loves to do everything perfect, except pull a good team together and make a great game. Has it all been luck that Sonic Adventure 1&2 didn't suck?

Kilroy May 8, 2006 08:28 AM
I got this viole(n)t urge to resurrect this thread. Why, you ask? No, why I.....


Anyways, I wouldn't do this without reason. So here we are:

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Sonic creator sets up new studio

Yuji Naka, best known for being Sonic the Hedgehog's dad and head of the Sonic Team, has left SEGA to set up his own studio.

It's called Prope which, according to the official website, is a Latin word meaning "beside" and "near future".

"We named our company Prope in the hopes of bringing game entertainment much closer to users, establishing closer ties between users and us, and creating near future entertainment," the website reveals.

SEGA will provide 10 per cent of the studio's startup capital, which is being launched as part of its program to support "Independent Game Creators." The publisher is also allowing Naka to take 10 members of Sonic Team with him.

There's no word on whether the move will affect the development of the first next-gen Sonic game, currently in the pipeline for PS3 and Xbox 360 under Naka's direction. Prope also has yet to unveil its first project, but we'll keep you posted.
Sonic de Bushpig

Anyway, discuss this interesting turn of events!

Monkey King May 8, 2006 08:55 AM
So he gets to cherry pick from Sonic Team while he's at it? Why does this sound like cutting and running?

Chronciler May 8, 2006 12:29 PM
It does sort of sound like a potential for Sonic Team brain drain.

Then again, has Sonic Team amounted to much of anything since Burning Rangers? Sonic Adventure was okay but didn't really have the lasting power of the old games. Phantasy Star Online is good for some thrills but is wedded a bit too closely to the MMORPG format to have any long-term draw.

Still, does Sega make new games anymore? It's almost like they became an afterthought the minute they closed shop on the Dreamcast.

Arkhangelsk May 8, 2006 12:44 PM
That website could use some work.

I'm just interested if he has any plans to make another NiGHTS game, since there's a fairly large fanbase for it. I know that rumors of a sequel have been denied by members of Sonic Team, but still. I hold out some hope.

Cirno May 8, 2006 12:45 PM
Not too sure how I feel about this.

On one hand, I've respected Yuji Naka for years, mostly out of my fanboyish affection for Sonic the Hedgehog (which is currently on life-support). On the other, I haven't given most of the games Sonic Team's produced recently much thought. They just don't appeal to me anymore.

I'll be interested to see what he produces, but I'm not on the edge of my pillow in anticipation.

Kostaki May 8, 2006 12:46 PM
I wonder why people are even concerned with Yuji Naka really. Sonic the Hedgehog stopped being fun when it became the Dreamcast's "show the hardware off" bitch. Hasn't really been fun since.

Now the Sonic Advance line on the other hand, is great fun. They should take a page from Konami and realize that 2D Sonic is where it's at.

Monkey King May 8, 2006 01:16 PM
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Now the Sonic Advance line on the other hand, is great fun. They should take a page from Konami and realize that 2D Sonic is where it's at.
2D doesn't sell Playstations.

Kostaki May 8, 2006 01:41 PM
... and 3D doesn't sell Dreamcasts, need I remind you where that went?

Jonathan Ingram May 9, 2006 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by evilboris
...And according to people who worked with him, he was also an egoist asshole.
Habeas Corpus dude; what proof of these accusations do you have?

Monkey King May 9, 2006 09:40 AM
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Posted by Kostaki
... and 3D doesn't sell Dreamcasts, need I remind you where that went?
What point are you making here? The Dreamcast tanked because of the same piss-poor marketing that sunk the Saturn. Sega's inability to crack Sony's fanbase was what killed them, as people passed over the Dreamcast and instead held out for the upcoming PS2.

2D doesn't sell Playstations. Ergo, Hell will freeze over before Sony will see a 2D Sonic game on the PS3. The DS is our last hope now.

evilboris May 9, 2006 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey King
What point are you making here? The Dreamcast tanked because of the same piss-poor marketing that sunk the Saturn. Sega's inability to crack Sony's fanbase was what killed them, as people passed over the Dreamcast and instead held out for the upcoming PS2.
The Dreamcast marketing was pretty agressive in itself. But they were up against DUDE PLAYSTATION TWO. And then DUDE METAL GEAR SOLID TWO. And a bunch of fake concept art showcasing absurd graphics which the Playstation 2 couldnt even do.

Kesubei May 9, 2006 09:47 PM
I'm glad Naka's gone as he hasn't really done much lately, outside of taking credit for the work of others. It really isn't that big of a deal, him being gone. Mizoguchi's departure was much more important, in my opinion.


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