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Kaiten Mar 15, 2006 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Toma
I just asked :). I honestly wasn't expecting to be accepted for that very reason, I lurk much more than I post and don't know many members. At any rate, I'm not complaining.

So if you are a judge, then how soon can we be expecting OCR01500 to roll around? Right now OCR01460ish has came out, meaning there shouldn't be too much more of a wait time.

Josiah Mar 15, 2006 02:05 PM

I listen to OCR some, but little when compared to originals. That's mostly because a lot of remixes I hear, I don't think are as good as the original. The ones I do have, however, come pretty close on that regard. Or perhaps they put a bit of a different spin on the original that makes the remix kind of original in and of itself and I like the sound of it, things like that.

The 'Icecapped' OC Remix from Sonic the Hedgehog 3 by McVaffe, or 'Far Away Memories' from Chrono Trigger by Neil Benjamin, or 'Electric Fields' from Seiken Densetsu III by Khalal are among my favorites.

THE POWER OF WATER Mar 15, 2006 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by www.sega.co.jp
So if you are a judge, then how soon can we be expecting OCR01500 to roll around? Right now OCR01460ish has came out, meaning there shouldn't be too much more of a wait time.

Toma's a judge at OverLooked ReMix, not OverClocked ReMix.

Judging by the current rate of song posting, I'd estimate sometime midsummer... late June or early July.

ramoth Mar 15, 2006 03:14 PM

Just in case it wasn't explained clearly, OverLooked remix is a site where the emphasis is... well, you kind of have to go there and see it, but if OCR is the Olympics, then OLR would be the Special Olympics.

Dhsu Mar 15, 2006 03:27 PM

Ahahahahaha! Best analogy ever.

watkinzez Mar 16, 2006 04:07 AM

Glad to see no 'graah, crappy drumloop techno' replies. I suppose some might get the impression from first glance (choosing from all mixes 2000 through 2006), but the stuff that comes though today is guaranteed to be good, and if you have a wide variety of tastes, you'll like pretty much everything.

Mana Dragon Mar 16, 2006 04:15 AM

I like OC ReMix, not everthing there is great, but I do have a decent amount of remixes that I keep on my winamp playlist, mostly from games I have played before. As for favorite remixes, I like alot of mixes by Scott Peeples, and most of the Chrono Trigger mixes are good, nothing too bad for that game.

orion_mk3 Mar 16, 2006 07:14 AM

The site has produced some wonderful stuff, but some total crap as well, as might be expected with any sort of fan art. I think the earlier states figure of 10% is just about right for me.

The problem is largely one of genre and tools. Most of the remixers have access to fairly basic synthesizers and limited production libraries, so most of the resulting tracks tend to have a techno sound. And techno is very, very easy to do wrong, or at least easy to do in a manner displeasing to me.

When I browse OCR, I'm looking for songs that are much like the originals, but with higher quality sound, like arranged pieces. Soule's sole contribution fits in that category, but there are precios few others, mostly piano themes. As a result, my favorite OCR pieces tend to be from the NES era, from which techno is a step *up*: Mega Man, mostly. The Mega Man remixes by Injury are stupendous, and they have the distinction of being IPOD'D.

Synthesis Mar 16, 2006 06:49 PM

I've been a fan of OCR for a long time. it's a shame about what I heard happened between the staff and Protricity, he was definitely one of the best remixers there in my opinion. Made some of the best Donkey Kong Country/2 remixes I've ever heard. They have some really good Sonic remixes there as well. They've even OCR'd a few rap remixes as well. Great stuff

Favorite remixers:

Protricity, Vigilante, analoq, Jivemaster, Beatdrop, Mythril Nazgul, Flik, Rayza, Sir Nuts, bLiNd, Dale North, Wintermute, Darangen, zircon, etc.

Free.User Mar 16, 2006 09:46 PM

I s'pose this has been said before, but I think OCR's remixes are either pure shit or pure bliss. I love "When all Hope has Faded", "Green Amnesia" and "Sector7 Hath Wrought the Angel", just to name a few. I hate, however, the naming scheme OCR imposes, and the fact that many of the tracks are encoded at 128kbps. There should be a rule that says all submissions must be > 160kbps.

THE POWER OF WATER Mar 16, 2006 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Free.User
I hate, however, the naming scheme OCR imposes, and the fact that many of the tracks are encoded at 128kbps. There should be a rule that says all submissions must be > 160kbps.

Many of the tracks are also several years old. Most of the newer tracks are higher, with a good amount in VBR as well.

You might not be aware, but there's a 6 MB file size limit on submissions, so longer songs have to have a lower bitrate. You would also not be the first person to complain about the limit if you choose to do so.

Kaiten Mar 16, 2006 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Free.User
I s'pose this has been said before, but I think OCR's remixes are either pure shit or pure bliss. I love "When all Hope has Faded", "Green Amnesia" and "Sector7 Hath Wrought the Angel", just to name a few. I hate, however, the naming scheme OCR imposes, and the fact that many of the tracks are encoded at 128kbps. There should be a rule that says all submissions must be > 160kbps.

I agree on the naming system, it makes most song titles unreadable on my CD/Mp3 player, which only displays the first 7 charcters of a filename. Most of the mp3s sound fine though, even those that dip below 128kbps, it's not like most songs take advantage of what 128kbps leaves out (frequencies above 16kHz, many of the OC ReMixes tend to lean on bass more than treble).

Free.User Mar 17, 2006 01:43 AM

Yeah, but I notice a lot of cymbal distortion below 128kbps... :sick:

Kaiten Mar 17, 2006 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Free.User
Yeah, but I notice a lot of cymbal distortion below 128kbps... :sick:

Well, since some OC ReMixes dip to 22050Hz, so it could be worse. Plus what could you expect from some mp3s which were encoded from before LAME 3.90? Xing @ 128kbps guarentees very low quality (some even go to lower bitrates, due to the fact that they need to stay under 6MB, I've seen 44100Hz mp3s go as low as 90kbps).

Musharraf Mar 18, 2006 03:52 AM

I sent them a remix of mine once but they didn't accept it :( Their standards are pretty high, I guess. Best remix on ocremix.org would be Jeremy Soule's (!) FF6 Squaresoft Variation remix.

Free.User Mar 18, 2006 03:56 AM

Well I say it's about time the maximum filesize be upped to 12MB. Don't you agree?

Dhsu Mar 18, 2006 12:11 PM

I think that would encourage people to submit those all-too-common "megamedleys" with lots of songs but nothing in the way of actual arrangement value. And the judges still have to sit through all 10 minutes of it before making a decision. :(

Free.User Mar 18, 2006 12:54 PM

Well, that's what the judges are there for!

Conan-the-3rd Mar 18, 2006 01:07 PM

I've had my fair share of Fun with OCR, the worst of that being the rather bad stint during the delays with Sonic 2's remix project, "Hedgehog Heaven".

Now, (as long as it's not anything to do wiht UK Anime stuffs) I'm not a flamer by defualt, but...yea, not one of my proudest moments.

Yeah, my fave OCR...hum...I always liked that remix of Sonic 3's ending, Tight Finalé(# 530)

Synthesis Mar 18, 2006 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dhsu
I think that would encourage people to submit those all-too-common "megamedleys" with lots of songs but nothing in the way of actual arrangement value. And the judges still have to sit through all 10 minutes of it before making a decision. :(


I agree, sometimes the judges take a long time to post a new mix. I swear I waited for over a month while the "Mario Paint - Intense Color" remix sat in the "Yes" column. By the way Dhsu, you are a really good pianist, I really enjoyed your remixes on there.

THE POWER OF WATER Mar 18, 2006 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Synthesis
I agree, sometimes the judges take a long time to post a new mix. I swear I waited for over a month while the "Mario Paint - Intense Color" remix sat in the "Yes" column.

The judges don't post mixes; only djpretzel has the power to do that.

If you really want more mixes posted, tell him to hitting the bar all the time. :(

Synthesis Mar 19, 2006 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CHz
The judges don't post mixes; only djpretzel has the power to do that.

If you really want more mixes posted, tell him to hitting the bar all the time. :(


My mistake. I was being too general. I would place the time taken being how long he usually writes out his personal review for the individual mix page itself.

Dhsu Mar 19, 2006 12:28 AM

Yeah, currently djp would be considered the bottleneck, since he has to personally go through each submission e-mail, make a preliminary decision on whether to send it to the panel or not, and then do a personal review for each mix that's passed. Although this isn't to say the judges haven't held up the line from time to time. :P

They're constantly trying to streamline the process, though. Hopefully the queue will be eliminated entirely at some point.

And thanks for the kind words, Synthesis. :)

Josh_1 Mar 19, 2006 01:15 AM

CHz,

Actually, I didn't like that Hamauzu arrangement at all. After listening to that, I have more confidence, :P. I really hope they accept my submission, though.

Dhsu Mar 19, 2006 01:40 AM

Unless you performed it yourself, it's unlikely. Aside from being an extraordinary sequencer, live recordings are pretty much a prerequisite for piano arrangements.


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