Heh heh... I know. That was a joke.

The example provided--that nasty n-word--is a racial slur for some unknown reason. Maybe I need to be black to understand it, but the logic that "the slave masters called us that" doesn't work for me. Or maybe I'm just a fucking bigot.

Also, what would you do if someone started insulting your performance? Ignore them? Yelling "slurs" were just asking for trouble, but I think he had to say something--they offended him, so it is only fitting that he attempt in some way to offend them.

I'm not defending the black guy at all. Like I said, he was an idiot for using racial slurs. If Michael Richards yelled at the black guy and made fun of him, that's fair game since the black guy was being an asshole and ruining his act. I think they were both out of line. My point, which you didn't understand, was that Michael Richards shouldn't have used racial slurs. No, I don't understand why the n-word is so bad either as I do not know it's history, but it's obviously incredibly offensive.

No. No. No. Here's what happens when you're at a comedy show. You pay to see the comedian perform not for the right to heckle and interrupt them in the middle of their act. If you so happen to interrupt someone while they're on stage, you open the door for the performer to heckle you in return. Lewis Black does it all the time and I don't see anyone giving him shit for it.

I love Lewis Black. <3

I completely understood your point--there's no need to go underlining like I can't read. (I never even tried to imply that you were defending the black guy either. Ok, so "also" should be removed, meh.)

His goal was to offend, and he was obviously "incredibly" offended, as is evidenced by his response. Smart? No. Situationally warranted? I'd say so.

On the same note (I agree with you, Ence), I think if anyone who WAS black saying the shit Richards said would have been accepted.

I think it's ridiculous to get all HURT and OFFENDED when you fire at someone, and low and behold, THEY FIRE BACK.

In fact, I find the heckling worse than the name-calling - mostly because it's extremely STUPID to do.

Ditto... Double standards and all that.

Oh, my intention wasn't to insult you. I apologize for that. I just have a bad choice of words sometimes. I thought you had misunderstood my post when I clearly misunderstood yours. And I agree that the situation called for him to insult the black guy. I just don't think racist comments have any room in any argument though. But I agree with you for the most part.

So shut the fuck up if you don't know.

Was it funny? Not really. The interrupting the white man line was pretty good, but over all it was pretty fucking unfunny. But that's mostly because Michael Richards is mostly unfunny. However, the black guy did call him a cracker-ass. That's a racial slur too. Someone yell at that ignant ass nigga.

Also, requesting that Balcony Heckler be curbstomped for stealing my Muppets av/sig combo.

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You fucking biter.

Where the hell is this coming from? I wasn't defending Michael Richards. I was saying he was wrong for using the word. I don't understand why you're so upset when it seems that you have the same point of view that I do.

If the black dudes started it, why should Richards be sorry? He was just doing his job when these guys started yelling he's not funny? I think anyone would be very upset with that, and will think of anything to get back at those who humiliated him. Well, he didn't have to go over the line, but still.

I'm not mad, mate, but if you don't understand the situation, how can you really be a valuable source of information on it?

yeah, that's basically it right there, Klanny McWhitePower.

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Far be it for me, of anyone, to keep someone from doing the whole racial slur thing. Just make it funny. The retorts in question was too painfully bitter to work.

cracker-ass is not a slur and you know it. It attempts to be but it's hard to use terms that imply domination and superiority on the dominate racial group. That's why you go for the fag jokes imply that he has a black baby accuse his women of being slutty and unfulfilled at home ATTACK THE WEAK POINT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE I got nothin'.

THE SOUTH WILL RISE AND LOSE AGAIN!!1

Honestly, though, I think that word has been used for too long out of its original context to be offensive. Nevermind that it really shouldn't have been offensive in the first place. Oh, but I must be a bigot

That's not up to you to decide, mate. That's up to the offended group to decide.

What was its original context, to be dismissive of black folks? Cuz it's still being used that way, Klanny.

lol original context, language evolves, etc

I'm actually more insulted that he didn't insult Mexicans. Then again... We don't heckle; we attack.

Ok, I admit defeat.
I will promptly burn a cross on myself.

I still don't understand why certain uses of the word are offensive. For some people--usually those of older generations--the word is used not to express an undying hate for black people but, rather, as the primary word that they were taught for referring to black people. Yes, it is up to the offended to decide, but I'd like them to be a bit less caustic about it. Guh, I don't know.

I'm still going to burn a cross on myself, though

I think that if he used NIGGER as a point of topic - if he threw the EXPLAINATION of his use - into the crowd, it would've been a victory like the internet has never seen.

one can only assume that darkies understand that insults are contextual, and that someone is more likely to come across a racist person than a racist and also a race traitor.

Personally I would like dudes to buy my drinks everywhere I go without the implied sex at the end of the night but we don't always get what we want. Don't know why you would even think it's appropriate to insist that black people sanction you calling your (black?) friends nigger, though.

Assuming that all blacks are not savages, of course.

Seriously though, one cannot deny that the word has a certain disgusting levity to it. You curse people out when you say nigger. Not nigga but nigger.

However, it should also be said that the word was used properly. Michael Richards wanted to insult those people and struck at a base nerve with a lot of people - not just blacks. The word is there to be insulting, obviously and it's a great, gallant thing that we're able to have the choice of flinging racial slurs at anyone we chose (thought the effects of that are ours to reap, obviously)

The whole thing boils down to White Man's Guilt in the audience and wouldn't be such a big deal if it wasn't from a celeb. I bet you dollars to donuts we wouldn't have seen this if it was Bobcat Goldwaith screaming about chinks.

That is a fairly safe assumption.

because no one goes to his shows anymore?

Really sounds like these guys just made a wrong turn on thier way to Def Comedy Jam. This could've been avoided.