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Sarag Nov 14, 2006 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
The girl is a idiot, nothing more....

Honestly, shouldn't she have told her parents or the police if she was abused by this guy? I would just mislead the guy saying he could stay under the bed and then report him.

He was either a very good seducer, or the girl was just too easy to manipulate.

She was twelve years old and you're blaming her? what are you, retarded?

Misogynyst Gynecologist Nov 14, 2006 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by a lurker
what are you, retarded?

Look at who you're responding to, lurker.

Luckee Cookie Nov 14, 2006 11:00 PM

I'm just surprised how this was able to go on for 3 months :\

Conqueso Nov 14, 2006 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
The girl is a idiot, nothing more....

Honestly, shouldn't she have told her parents or the police if she was abused by this guy? I would just mislead the guy saying he could stay under the bed and then report him.

He was either a very good seducer, or the girl was just too easy to manipulate.

Yeah, it's totally the victim's fault, the way it always is with rape.

Acacia Nov 14, 2006 11:22 PM

That's undeniably creepy....geez, I really can't imagine how the guy could've gone un-noticed for 90 DAYS (maybe the cops rounded up...? =/ )

I mean, he had to have gone to the bathroom and stuff, right? Wouldn't the parents kind of notice the running water if the kids were in the same room or "mysterious footsteps?" What about the increase in the water bills or the necessity for more groceries? If he didn't/couldn't wash, then why didn't the mother notice a smell or something?

...Gah, this shit creeps me out. Poor little girl...

Infernal Monkey Nov 15, 2006 12:17 AM

I can't help but laugh at this as I imagine the guy popping up like Oscar the Grouch, shaking his head around with anger for scraps of food.

Chibi Neko Nov 15, 2006 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Devoxy
Not everyone is capable of knowing they're being abused or manipulated, or just how to articulate this to adults. Sometimes there are fucking obvious signs. He could have easily threatened her life and therefore all she could do was give off hints. You don't fucking know, way to be a totally insensitive bitch about this.

The girl is 12, not 5. It does not matter what the guy threatened her with, she had to have left the room at some point, thus giving the opportunity to inform a adult.


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Originally Posted by a lurker
She was twelve years old and you're blaming her? what are you, retarded?

Sure why not, I am as retarded as the 12 year old. The 10 year old sister had the sense to confess to the police.


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Originally Posted by Conqueso
Yeah, it's totally the victim's fault, the way it always is with rape.

It can be, if the guy raped or abused her, she could have informed her parents after she left the room. Seeing that she didn't, the guy would still be in the room and contiune to rape or abuse her. This is not a spontaneous rape that happens on the street where the guy jumps you and then runs off, this girl had many opportunities to inform someone while the criminal was staying in one spot.

Alice Nov 15, 2006 07:38 AM

Ohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygod...I am so creeped out right now. But seriously, how did the mother not know? Surely this child would have been acting suspiciously, or at the very least spending way too much time in her room behind closed doors. Parents these days. =/

And Chibi, get real. She was manipulated, and it was probably a piece of cake for this sicko to do it. Twelve-year-olds know right from wrong. Of course they do. But it would be very easy to convince a little girl not to tell, especially one with a low self-esteem who possibly has been convinced that she is in a relationship with a man who loves her.

Bloggs Nov 15, 2006 07:41 AM

Because every girl that gets raped really wants to put it out in public? Be real, if a 12 year old girl was getting abused by an adult then the first thing they are is scared shitless of what their Parents might do/think let alone if they get threatened by the rapist.

I blame the parents not taking enough attention to realize there was something wrong with the bed or even if their kid was acting strange. Surely they had to make the bed in the morning, how the fuck can somebody not notice something that's been slashed at with a knife?

Freelance Nov 15, 2006 08:01 AM

What I don't understand is how the mother was oblivious to the fact there was a man living in the house. There's no way he could have hidden so easily and so quietly that he could get away with it for three whole months.

The fact the girl told her sister about it, yet the sister never told anyone else about it doesn't make any sense at all as well. What kind of family is this?

At least he was caught though. That's a good thing.

Balcony Heckler Nov 15, 2006 08:02 AM

I think in this issue, you have to look at both sides of the spectrum. first of all, I agree with the side that this was incredibly stupid for her to do, and to allow this to happen without telling anyone, it was undeniably stupid, however, most kids aren't that smart anyway, and I also agree with the point that some kids wouldn't recognize rape and abuse anyway. so I guess it's kind of a moot point in that light

Chibi Neko Nov 15, 2006 08:10 AM

So we are in agreement? The girl was easy to manipulate....

Balcony Heckler Nov 15, 2006 08:14 AM

yes, I think we can agree on that fact that the girl knew very little about her situation. either that or she liked it, but we'll leave that to the sewers to figure out

Paco Nov 15, 2006 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
This is not a spontaneous rape that happens on the street where the guy jumps you and then runs off, this girl had many opportunities to inform someone while the criminal was staying in one spot.

I hope you don't ever have children because I'm quite sure that you would eat them at the first sign of "easy manipulation".

Soluzar Nov 15, 2006 05:59 PM

I don't think it's fair to blame the kid. I mean, you don't know her situation... neither of us do, but I can imagine a scenario in which this would all seem pretty sweet to her.

Suppose that this homeless dude isn't actually repulsive to look at... suppose that she's the kind of girl who never gets any attention from guys her own age. Suppose that he made her feel special... is she really so stupid for thinking that what they had might have been special?

Don't misunderstand me. From an adult point of view, the answer is clearly yes. From a 12-year-old point of view, is it really so clear-cut? Do they have the kind of life-experience that teaches us that you can't trust things people say when they want to get into your pants? Not always...

Metaconsciou§ Nov 15, 2006 06:29 PM

So creepy. o.o

I wouldn't let my 12 yr girl old use the bus alone without out being informed about these threats first. I also wouldn't purchase a bed for her that someone could hollow out space to hide in. x_x

Oh well... I guess crazy shit like this happens because the gene pool is attempting to cut out the uncessesary... -_-

Soluzar Nov 15, 2006 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Metaconsciou§
I also wouldn't purchase a bed for her that someone could hollow out space to hide in. x_x

Yeah, because you could really expect that to happen a lot... O_o

Seriously though... a lot of divan beds are hollow underneath anyway. It's not like this guy had to hollow it out, all he had to do was make an entrance in the outer shell.

Sarag Nov 15, 2006 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
It can be, if the guy raped or abused her, she could have informed her parents after she left the room. Seeing that she didn't, the guy would still be in the room and contiune to rape or abuse her. This is not a spontaneous rape that happens on the street where the guy jumps you and then runs off, this girl had many opportunities to inform someone while the criminal was staying in one spot.

You don't know anything about rape. I know you feel inclined to give your opinion as a woman and as a minor but you know nothing about what you're talking about.

Double Post:
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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
So we are in agreement? The girl was easy to manipulate....

Twelve year olds are easy to manipulate, well stop the presses here folks.

Why do you think child rape isn't that bad, Chibi Neko?

Metaconsciou§ Nov 15, 2006 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Soluzar
Yeah, because you could really expect that to happen a lot... O_o

Seriously though... a lot of divan beds are hollow underneath anyway. It's not like this guy had to hollow it out, all he had to do was make an entrance in the outer shell.

If decided to have a child I think I would be paranoid of boogeymen. :(

Chibi Neko Nov 15, 2006 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Devoxy
Do you know what threatening does to kids that age?

Yes I do

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Originally Posted by Devoxy
Have you undergone sexual abuse or manipulation? Do you know what goes on in the mind of a child who does? Read up on some sexual abuse cases before spouting your shit.

I will not go into details... but I was 6, and I did something about it by informing someone who could take action.

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Originally Posted by Encephalon
I hope you don't ever have children because I'm quite sure that you would eat them at the first sign of "easy manipulation".

How is this even related to what you quoted me on?

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
This is not a spontaneous rape that happens on the street where the guy jumps you and then runs off, this girl had many opportunities to inform someone while the criminal was staying in one spot.


Paco Nov 15, 2006 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
How is this even related to what you quoted me on?

If you can't see the relation then I don't know what to tell you.

Sarag Nov 15, 2006 06:49 PM

No kidding. Being a rape victim doesn't give you the authority to call other rape victims pussies because they were raped at an older age than you.

It's strange how you can go through something and know nothing about it, but there you go.

ramoth Nov 15, 2006 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
I will not go into details... but I was 6, and I did something about it by informing someone who could take action.

Then you weren't manipulated. End of story. This guy had the girl hook, line, and sinker. How is this even similar?

Also, if you're not going to tell us the details, don't dangle it in front of us. I'll bet this is the same behavior which got you raped in the first place. Man, you sure were asking for it.


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