"We want to ban black people the right to vote." "We disagree." "STOP IMPEDING PROGRESS."

"We want to destroy the separation between church and state." "We disagree." "STOP IMPEDING PROGRESS."

"We want to go back to a hunter/gatherer population wherein the leader is he who swings the strongest sword." "We disagree." "STOP IMPEDING PROGRESS."


I totally see your point. You're well-educated and on point with everything you say. And, to top it all off, you're a stunningly talented debator. Next you can tell me all about how black is white because the liberals invented black so it's a lie.

So explain the post above where I just did.

Well, what would have been the point of that? Bush isn't up for re-election, and neither is Kerry. His statement comes as no surprise. He meant what he said, and when it didn't slide by like he expected he had to turn tail and back out. It's this kind of attitude that lost him the election in 04. He acts like he's a man of the people, when it's obvious that through this type of rhetoric, that he's an elitist. This is just Kerry showing his true colors, and I'm sure most of the Dems are pissed.

Also, I've gotta agree with Aramaethe and say that the use of MJ Fox as emotional propoganda is pretty sickening. The poor man has a disease, and politicians are using him to win elections. It was just as disgusting as when John Kerry tried to group himself in with Chris Reeve. Politicians would have you believe that voting for them could cure MJ Fox, and that the other side would rather see him suffer and die. But really, every side is guilty of using the spin machine, and it's shitty when anybody does it. Elections are just a dirty game.

I didn't say they were liars( they are though ). I'm just sayin what I think is best for the country. Those quotes are ideas I don't agree with. Ahem, are you black? Cause if you are...j/k.
You bitch at me because i said someone was narrow-minded but noone will hear me out because i am extreme right wing.

For the last time: MICHAEL J. FOX WAS MAKING THESE COMMERCIALS WAY BEFORE THE ELECTIONS. He's been doing it since he pulled back from Spin City. He's been campaigning, INDEPENDENTLY OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, and supports people who support Stem Cell research. If it was a Republican, he'd support them. He's campaigning for a cause, not a party. Did you even watch the fucking commercial? Did you see the other one's he's made? God, people. Do your homework before you start ranting.

Actually, it's not entirely useless. Thank you for coming in and giving us a live demonstration of how John Kerry learned that saying something stupid, even if it's just one thing, serves as a lightning rod that brings everything to a screeching halt as everyone turns to blast you for saying something stupid.

And then, like Senator Kerry, making it worse by not just shutting up and going away after saying something stupid the first time.

First off, the first sentence is the fucking height of hypocrisy and idiocy. Congratulations, I'll make you a medal. And no, we don't dismiss you for being right wing, we dismiss you because you make blanket statements with no proof backing them up whatsoever. If I walked into a club and yelled "people who like techno are ruining the country!" I wouldn't expect them to be dismissing me because I'm tall, I'd expect they're doing it because I'm clearly an idiot. You follow me here, chief?

Sure he is (MJ FOX on making his own decisions), but for some strange reason, I don't get the impression that those that would benefit from his support actually care about his cause. They seem to care more about their own personal advancement. But then again, that's just the impression that I've gathered. Perhaps I'm wrong to label all politicos as power hungry scumbags instead of humble public servants.

Michael J Fox has proven himself to be a very intelligent man over the years. I'd say he's more likely to be using the politicians than the other way around.

I think MJ Fox's cause is a noble one. I'd just like to see some of these politico's show some support for his cause all the time instead of just election time.

Let's hope so.

Ya, that I can fully support. I think politicians could do a lot if they'd just fucking stick to their guns.

You can't be serious... weaselish? No, I'm talking about indictments and breaking the law. I mean, come on... Tom Delay, former House Majority Leader had to step down because of taking bribes and money laundering. And what example do you bring to argue with? Michael J Fox?

Take a look at this article.

That quote couldn't be in any simpler English. If certain Republicans could stop taking bribes and chasing around underage boys then maybe they wouldn't be endangered of losing their majority standing.


Thanks for the added useless spam... not that you'll probably even read this post or follow-up with the topic, but I'll elaborate and explain something to you anyway. Polls are not only won by slinging mud desperately at your opponents. Things like setting a positive example and not being under investigation tend to help campaigns go a bit smoother. When you've got over a dozen spots threatened, all you care about is trying to take the negative focus on that and put it somewhere else.

Look, I'm not saying that all of yall's points aren't valid ones. But, I'm not going to write a ten page essay about why i dislike liberals just for the sake of a forum, that is why I make blanket statements because I will do nothing more than speak generally on a topic unless I feel it is absolutely necesary. Kalekkan, I see what you are saying now, I think i misconstrued what you were saying.
But seriously, is what I'm saying really stupid? Or do you just refuse to accept my beliefs because they are extreme? I don't see any other reason why you wouldn't. Who are you people to say that something is stupid. OH! I forgot that you people sit and play with Gamingforce all day long. That obviously counts for something right?

No, but my three degrees do. As does my long term involvement in politics. But I mean, clearly I'm dismissing you for being extreme, Simply Majestic. It's not because you say things like Liberals are ruining America, a country founded on liberalism, or because you run your mouth about how the left is using Michael J. Fox, when if you did your homework, you'd know he sought out the candidate, not the other way around. I'm saying you're wrong because you are. But keep talking, you make me look good.

Honestly, i don't care about your degrees, I'm working on mine. That doesn't make you right, and it doesn't make me think any better of you because you are involved in politics. Doesn't the candidate have to agree to someone's support as far as ads and promos go?

You don't have to, but, uh, generally people don't like being dismissed out of hand, especially by someone who has admitted he has no interest in actually debating anything in the debate forum.

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Oh no, I'm debating.

Like the part where you refuse to acknowledge others' arguments, and keep spouting tired pundit rhetoric?

If yo u read more carefully I am accepting their arguements. It is they who don't accept mine.

You've avoided their arguments in favor of explaining why you shouldn't have to explain yourself. Saying "my arguments are extreme" does not count as a valid point.

But hey, it's your funeral.

told u i wuz hardcore