Still, Disgaea 2 will arrive in europe somewhere in the next 6 months, probably by Koei. From what I understand, NIS don't have a european publisher that can get these games out there. But Capcom have their own. It wouldn't be wise for them to cancel releasing the game in europe, because I'm sure it would sell well.

There's no telling what's going to happen at the moment.

In other news Rockstar announce 14 new GTA games to be released across various platforms. Bad graphics, low framerate, numbingly lame gameplay and HARDCORE content are rumored to be making a return.

I have never played Viewtiful Joe, God Hand or Okami (or any CLOVER game for that matter) but it's sad to hear about the team closing their doors. I always meant to try out Viewtiful Joe and Okami looks interesting. This is probably a good time to see what I've been missing.

Not all hope is lost!

Hmm so does this mean they will still be making games perhaps under a new name or such 0-o?

You never know, they could pull a Konami. =/

For Capcom it is. They signed on the wrong guy and ditched the main creative output being Hideki Kamiya. It'd be nice if Kamiya and Inaba can setup their own development studio but then the problems come with funding, publishers and the like. If MSGS were smart they'd snap up Kamiya without question.

They never even got to the Wii ;_;

This is how a lot of companies are formed. They start out amall, make some really good products and then seperate & expand. It's true that change can be scary, but it is also required to move forwards my friends.

Some examples are;
Epic Games (Used to be owned by Atari)
Kojima Productions (while seperate they still produce exclusively for Konami... for now)
X-seed (used to be part of the SCEA)

You should try Viewtiful Joe 2 (GC or PS2, doesn't matter). It's very cheap now.

Epic was never an inhouse developer for Atari. Atari has been their publisher for years, but Epic Games, and formerly Epic Megagames and Potomac Computer Systems, were always independant.

I just found this shimmer of good news for all you gamers in Europe.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6159819.html

It looks like Clover isn't ACTUALLY closing until March '07, and according to the article they'll be working on the PAL versions of Okami and God Hand up to that date. Close one, eh?

Okami WILL be released (and maybe God Hand) in Europe. But I wouldn't be so happy about it. C(r)apcom Europe will probably cut those games in someway like it often does.

Its not like Capcom will fall apart without Clover, they lost something great yes, but not like they're gonna go bankrupt after Clover officially leaves. As long as both studios continue to make great games, I'm happy.

I was always under the impression thast Clover was growing perpetually with wonderful games like VJ and Okami under their belt. This is tragic news! Too bad their niche games didn't translate into long-term prosperity. Maybe if we all buy Clover games at the last minute, the sudden spike will change the outcome ;)

Unfortunatly it's pretty much set and done my good sir. But give it some time, I'm sure that we'll see Clover calibur titles coming to lite in the next year or so.

AH SNAP.

CLOVER HEADS FORM NEW STUDIO - "SEEDS"

oh hell yes :tpg:

What the fuck, this is the second best news this month.

AND WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE THE FIRST.

Seriously though. This is fucking awesome. I expected them to end up somewhere eventually, but not so soon...but still. What does this means in terms of games like Okami - does that have a chance of seeing a sequel by these guys, or is that out of the question because of Capcom?

Senko no Ronde for 360.

Well the major guys shifted to Seeds, and since Clover hold the rights to Okami there's no reason why they wouldn't be allowed to make a sequel. I mean it's their game.

Oh. Granted I don't know the business or legal aspect of it or how any of this works when companies separate, I guess I just assumed that because it went through Capcom, Capcom had the rights to it and not Clover. But if I'm wrong, I'm happy.

Link to source, as all I've heard from elsewhere is that Capcom holds the rights to Okami, Viewtiful Joe, etc... Anyway, this is both good and bad news. They may end up doing no name games that never leave Japan, or they might get funded by one of the big three. If they had simply been absorbed into the rest of Capcom or maybe another company, we could see their talents influence other titles.

Most of the creative directors and masterminds who actually created Clover's games did get absorbed into Capcom, because they needed them to work on the larger next-gen titles. Clover's lead designer left with a few programmers and directors, but no one who was all that important and can't be replaced with someone else in the huge company of Capcom.

Whether Clover or Capcom owns the rights to Okami, VJ, God Hand, etc. I don't think that you're going to see any sequels to any of Clover's work any time soon if ever. SEEDS is too small to make such a thing, and Capcom is going the route of big name sequels and new IPs, none of Clover's games fall into either category due to poor market figures.

Source of the 360 game being first in development would be nice yes...

I'm not sure how to make a response without insulting Kensaki's lack of intelligence.

I don't have a source for every fucking thing I know. Clover made the game, Capcom published and distributed it. Are you saying Clover don't hold the rights to what they created?

That's cause you make it up as you go along.

No, the franchises are owned by Capcom. Source.