Amish tragedy
 

Well said Alice,

There is no place on earth that is safe, maybe one little help we could give to reduce these horrible crimes, as starters, would be to try and change the law which currently enables whomever to walk into a bloody gun shop and buy rifles or guns...common Amerika...we Romans were alive and ruling long before you guys and it is certainly not a coincidence that our law does not forsee 'free' distribution of weapons.

cheers

amman2003

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2523941&page=1

Damn. :(

Amish
 

How admirable of them to have this rare gift of forgiveness, what absolute sense of the essential qualities of life...so much wisdom and respect for the others, so much love for life and nature...but in the wrong country.

amman2003

Their 'gift' for forgiveness is insincere at best. The Amish will forgive anyone for anything if they think it helps in the afterlife. When people are ignored by the outside world and are left to account for themselves, things run amuck. I found the story about sexual abuse in the Amish community very interesting from ABC News. A girl tells her story about being raped since a young child by her family, and how her mother knew about it and turned a blind eye. I watched the court proceedings for the case and was blown away at the Amish community who came to court and were ashamed of the girl for involving the outside world in their affairs, but were crying for the release of the men who raped her,...her brothers.

Go to Google and type in "Amish Sexual Assault Case" and click on the ABC News link.

I just read about the forgiveness thing the Amish are doing. I guess if that is what they need to do, then so be it.

Personally, I would have a hard time forgiving someone who killed those young girls.

Whoa... makes you wish there was less of a stigma attached to sexual deviancy and the acquisition psychological help. I mean, maybe if it were easier to admit that you were a pedophile, it would be easier to get help? Maybe if he leveled with his wife instead of telling her in a suicide note, he could've gotten the help he needed, and those kids would still be alive. Alas, being sick is apparantly a terrible thing in our society, and not at all a symptom of the human condition.

I don't care that they're Amish. Innocent people get hurt every day, and it's always a tragedy. Where one person could've been healed, a lot of people were hurt, and that's always a testament to the fucked up state of affairs that the human condition has become.

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I have a new respect for the Amish community. I think it's pretty arrogant and over-cynical to assume that they would forgive the shooter for selfish reasons, and that's coming from a cynic. You know nothing of the situation, and thus have nothing but your own personal bias to base such an assumption on. The fact is that we are all capable of doing terrible things of this nature, given the right stimuli and a lack of help from loved ones. Once you recognize this, the reason why they forgive even a child killer becomes pretty obvious.

It's also excessively lame to judge an entire way of life by the idiocy and depravity of a few individuals. If a person fails to understand their own religion, then they are an utter moron, since most religion is designed to be understood by all who seek it. The people who turned a blind eye, the people who would weep for the victimizers before the victim, have no understanding of the way of life that they, themselves, are a part of. Forgiveness is divine, but one should forgive the victimizers only after they repent, and after the victims have been helped. To see a sin and turn a blind eye is essentially the same as committing it yourself, as anyone with even a basic understanding of Christianity should know.

This is precisely why people should not be born into a way of life, but should instead explore all options and choose for themselves. If you don't understand the doctrine, than don't call yourself a believer. 'Nuff said.

It makes you wonder. Like what the hell else KY Jelly is used for.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KY_Jelly

Yeah, ionuk tomb, because the entire Amish population must account for the actions of one family.

I'm not saying that Amish are incapable of sin or something. But don't be a dumbass.

I didn't say that the entire Amish community should account for it. I was just pointing out the lack of rationalization on the part of the members of the Amish community that were at the courthouse.

I'm pretty certain that anyone would forgive most people if they really thought doing so would provide themselves a better afterlife; this is a somewhat moot point. Honestly, I think that most forgivness for murder and other heinous acts is "insincere at best."

I'd still really like to know what made the murderer go nuts.

Must not have been able to go through with the molesting... got angry and decided to shoot them all.

I think the cops showing up made him panic... and I think he had a lack of decision before hand...

Lemme guess, "he played Quake, GTA etc and listened to rap and metal music etc" too ¬_¬

No one said that, second he's an adult, wasn't he around his 30s?

They'd be saying that if it was a 15 year old doing this.

I think he was in his 40s.

But yeah, I would blame it on videogames.... just kidding:biggrin:

I don't think they will get a full understanding of what happened that day. Its unfortunate, but with him being dead, there isn't much to tell. Maybe on of the girls who was there can tell.

Yeah, definitely video games. Especially Counter-Strike: Amish Town.

I can't see how anyone has the ability to forgive such an evil monster like that pedophilic murderer. If someone like "him" ever killed my family, I would never be able to forgive such a monster. I'd hunt "him" down and kill "him" in a gruesome slow manner.

Those kids had it coming. The Amish are stinky tax evaders.

Sarcasm.

Gotta admit that did actually make me LoL irl.