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Tommyspud Sep 23, 2006 02:05 PM

Ah, yes... Sonic Adventure 2, I remember going online with that and getting rare chao eggs, because I had all of the emblems at that time. Anyone else thought it was funny that you could play as BIG the cat in it, and Big's random cameos, when they took him out of SA2:B almost completely?

Winter Storm Sep 23, 2006 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SonicPanda
I'd say both of them paled in crapulescence to this bad boy:

http://www.geocities.com/dollydeux/c...Controller.jpg

LOL. The only and ONLY reason to get this system was for Doom, and even then you could've just bought it on PC. Don't hate on the Jaguar calculator though because they tried :P.

Tommyspud Sep 23, 2006 02:19 PM

Yeah, it (The Jaguar Controller) was an interesting idea... But, it failed completely...
Like so much other things.

speculative Sep 23, 2006 02:33 PM

I <3 it. In fact, I bought brand-new unopened one off Ebay just a couple months ago, and hunted down about 15 games for it. To say the least, DC has the best version of Rayman 2, which is one of the best platformers in history.

The DC had many innovations:

-Memory card slot moved to the controller: each controller has 2 memory card slots, and there's native support for up to 4 controllers, so that equals 8 total memory card slots.
-Built-in modem: Even the PS2 and GC which came after had no built-in Internet support
-First major system release (I think?) with a built-in cooling fan: Hardcore!
-The GD-ROM: although it didn't work, the anti-piracy theory of using a different format could have worked in future variations...
-The VMU: mini-games and the ability to see things your fellow couch-potatoes can't, such as which play you will execute in a sports game, etc.

I know there's more, but that's what I can think of off the top of my head...

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Originally Posted by Shenlon
The biggest problem with dreamcast other than the controller was when you popped in a game and then when it reads the disc it would make some very loud scratch noises.

Just like the wide assortment of drivetrain noises in my scooby's AWD system, that loud noise means DC = serious power. :D

evilboris Sep 23, 2006 03:02 PM

Ah, the Dreamcast. The typical case of console being pushed into mud by hype only even though it was leagues ahead of the competition. It was a wonderful console with some truly peerless games, but unfortunetaly Metal Gear Solid 2 completely disabled it from the market. SEGA being completely retarded at selling a console didnt help either - I can't think up any of the well executed things from their previous generation that they repeated, only their faults.
A great loss for gaming, since the machine could've been kept alive up to this day by a smarter, perhaps richer company. It was certainly powerful enough to be so.

SuperSonic Sep 23, 2006 04:02 PM

Dreamcast...love it, and still play it. I only have 6 games for it, plus the demo discs that I received in my monthly Dreamcast magazine. I got Sonic Adventure on launch day and damn it was it awesome. The last game I got on that system was Sonic Adventure 2. I still play both games to this day (and a little Sonic Shuffle when I'm feeling like it) because they are two of the greatest games not only on the Dreamcast, but from the entire Sonic series.

Controller: Didn't have a single problem with it. VMU screen was freakin awesome and the controller was pretty neat. No problems at all.

I still think that it could've competed with PS2, Cube, and XBox. Honestly what I think really killed the Dreamcast was the fact that it didn't support DVD playback while the PS2 did. Back then, DVD Players were very expensive. PS2, while still expensive, you could have DVD playback at a less expensive price.

Dreamcast was the last game system I ever pre-ordered. Sega did it's launch completely right. 9/9/99...good launch of games...Dreamcast is truly a gem. I still love it.

Summonmaster Sep 23, 2006 05:35 PM

I used to hate it, especially since it didn't disprove Sega's console failure trend (GG, Sat, DC premature deaths :(). After a friend showed me the joys of the fighting games, I grew to love it.

Power Stone 2 - the craziest party game ever. You don't have to even like fighting games in general or know how to play. Just grab a weapon and smack up the opponent, be it an umbrella or dragonslayer sword. Trumps Super Smash in insanity. Stages have never been so persistently interactive.

Project Justice - I never thought I'd get to play this game in my life, the fabled sequel to Rival Schools. Very fun character designs, and my innate love of music automatically gravitated me towards Yurika.

Last Blade 2 - Very well ported from AC/Neogeo (?). It's a shame that this didn't grow more in popularity with all the swordplay action and repelling.

The dpad/stick made me cry, with the terribly difficult time in comparison to the PS2 controller I had with pulling of simple moves such as qcfs or even just trying to not jump.

Also, due to realizing that several great RPGs such as Grandia II and Skies of Arcadia were ported from it (or vv?), I respected it more.

Finally, DC spawned the funkiest rhythm game ever to grace my PS2 with a port: SPAAAAACE CHANNEL 5~~!

Kesubei Sep 23, 2006 05:42 PM

Dreamcast lover. I still collect and play games for it (Roommania 203 being my latest), but my DC has been failing me lately. In the middle of a game, it fades to black and reset to the command screen. Sad, sad.

It was sad to see it go, especially since the Naomi hardware is still used.

BIGWORM Sep 23, 2006 10:50 PM

I think the best VMU minigame by far was the 3 Power Stone minigames. I never got into the Chao games for SA and SA2, though that would've been nice.

UltimaIchijouji Sep 24, 2006 01:07 AM

I love my Dreamcast. I need more games for it. The other day I fixed some controllers I bought from Gamestop and my friends and I had a 4 way Power Stone 2 match. It was beautiful. I still play Ikaruga often, and its the only system I'm eager to buy games for right now.

devilmaycry Sep 24, 2006 04:23 AM

I love it ofcourse, it's IMHO the best console ever right along with MegaDrive.
I would like to play it again but I don't feel much inclined to buy another since my own DC died on me and apparently this is common... I think I'll wait for nullDC emulator and play it on my PC with a 360 pad sometime in the future.

*AkirA* Sep 24, 2006 07:58 AM

This system will live on in my heart. Shenmue 1 and Grandia 2 keep the memory going, and who could hate some of the hour long, crazy, arcade shooters/brawlers.

Grawl Sep 24, 2006 10:40 AM

The system is too good to hate. Sonic Adventure 2 will always have a place in my heart (ROLLING AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SOUND, GOT PLACES TO GO, GOTTA FOLLOW MY RAINBOOOOOOW, CAN'T STICK AROUND, HAVE TO KEEP MOVING ON!). Probably played that game the most on the system, trying to master the levels and get an A-ranking everywhere (and failing at that).

nazpyro Sep 24, 2006 10:48 AM

<3.

It's the best free item I've ever gotten. A friend of mine acquired 3 broken ones from somewhere, and since I helped him repair all of them, he gave me one. Plus some controllers, some VMUs, some rumble packs, a keyboard, and an initial library of about 30 copied games. Now I haven't had time to go through many of the DC games, but from those I have, I love it I love it.

devilmaycry Sep 25, 2006 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Grawl
Probably played that game the most on the system, trying to master the levels and get an A-ranking everywhere (and failing at that).

LOL, I got all A-Rank emblems but it took me 80 hours to do it officially, of course it must've taken around 100 because I didn't always save.
I also got all emblems on Sonic Adventure 1 (no reward AFAIK) and all A-Rank on Sonic Heroes dispite not being a DC game.

Technophile Sep 25, 2006 05:04 PM

http://www.futura-online.com/e-tiend...controller.jpg

I absolutely love, love, LOVED the DC controller. It was nice and hefty, and just filled up my hands in a rather satisfying manner. Also, the VMU/memory card is one of the best original features that people have desighned into a controller. The cord coming out from the bottom really wasn't a problem since you can just clip it into the back. The only issue I had with it was that it forced you to hold your palms directly parallel from eachother which got kinda tiresome in long play sessions. But I can overlook that.



DC in general was a great system. It had a ton of fun games and was a bit ahead of it's time. Vastly underrated.

No. Hard Pass. Sep 25, 2006 05:11 PM

http://www.gamearts.co.jp/products/grandia2/2_logo.gif

Awesome.

Discussion the fuck OVER.

Kesubei Sep 25, 2006 10:05 PM

Grandia II, eh? I loved that game. I haven't played it in a while, but I remember being amazed at how dark the plot became.

Alot of people like to compare it to Skies of Arcadia (the DC's other big RPG) and say that Grandia II wasn't as good.

Shenlon Sep 25, 2006 10:12 PM

yes grandia 2 was an awsome game. One of the best things about the dreamcast version is that the soundtrack came packed in. A very nice addition

Grundlefield Earth Sep 26, 2006 02:43 AM

5 Reasons

First and foremost: Skies of Arcadia (Arguably the best rpg to this date still)
2. Shenmue
3. Grandia II
4. Ecco the Dolphin: Defender of the Future
5. Jet Grind Radio

And of course I bought it for Sonic Adventure. Best graphically looking game to open up a console EVER.

DC I compare to Xbox, neither accepted that well even though they should have been, and it is a shame that there are so many retarded people out there. So many godly games.

Winter Storm Sep 26, 2006 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWittyComment
Grandia II, eh? I loved that game. I haven't played it in a while, but I remember being amazed at how dark the plot became.

Alot of people like to compare it to Skies of Arcadia (the DC's other big RPG) and say that Grandia II wasn't as good.

Alot of people compare all rpgs to SoA, much like Fanboy Fantasy 7. I must say I'm shocked so many people like Grandia II, when in the Grandia appreciation(or was it III..) thread, the game gets knocked on pretty bad as being the worst of the series. I have the PS2 version, there is only one difference between the two, Ryudo says his Sky Dragon Slash line in a different order.

DC: "Sworn enemies, you shall be defeated! Take that! Sky Dragon Slash"!
PS2: "Sworn enemies, take that! Sky Dragon Slash! You shall be defeated".

:eyebrow:

speculative Sep 26, 2006 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BZ
And of course I bought it for Sonic Adventure. Best graphically looking game to open up a console EVER.

Have you played Rayman 2 for DC? SA's graphics are top-notch, but I feel the art direction in Rayman 2 is world's ahead of it, which for me puts it on top...

Golfdish from Hell Sep 26, 2006 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by speculative
Have you played Rayman 2 for DC? SA's graphics are top-notch, but I feel the art direction in Rayman 2 is world's ahead of it, which for me puts it on top...

Rayman 2 wasn't a launch title. It came along later in the DC's life. :doh:

I remember the press was balls-up for Soul Calibur the entire holiday season, a large part due to the graphics (which were redone from the arcade version). I'm kind of in agreement on Sonic Adventure being a great looking launch title (possibly the best looking), since the smoothness of the worlds wasn't possible on the N64 or PS1 and it still looks quite pleasant by today's standards.

Burp Sep 27, 2006 10:40 AM

Simple: If you love Japanese gaming, you will love Dreamcast to death... great selection of Fighting, Shooting, Dating Sim and Puzzle games, maybe one of the best ever on any console before the PS2 apocalypsis.

By the way, Sega confirms that Border Down was the NOW REALLY OFFICIAL last Dreamcast game ever...

Elixir Sep 27, 2006 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Burp
By the way, Sega confirms that Border Down was the NOW REALLY OFFICIAL last Dreamcast game ever...

So what about all the Dreamcast titles released to the public after then?


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