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K_ Takahashi Jan 6, 2007 12:32 PM

I find the story to be one of the most mished-mashed concepts I have come across in a while, though beautifully animated, $1 million per ep is pretty obcene, well...It's coming out fo Spike's budget so I guess there is no complaining.

One of the only problems I had was the fact that there were too many commercials, like...4, but no television watermark (that we usually see on the bottom right) so I cant complain, the runtime was kinda short (21 mins) and there was no ED animation, I guess a few illistrated manga images were just too hard to come by.

Lastly I noticed that there were two writers from each respected verison (Japanese and English) I wonder what the differences are story/dialouge-wise OR just language issues.

Spoiler:
Not to get off topic, but announced a few years ago was Tokyo Tribes which MTV is going to pull the same thing we've seen here, however, I cannot find any info on it at the time

S3 2007 Jan 6, 2007 09:53 PM

The animation for this title was incredible, but I just thought the story made no sense at all, they really didn't make it all that compelling.

I don't know maybe I need to see more episodes.

Soldier Jan 6, 2007 10:25 PM

I find it slightly disturbing how the samurai characters are all seen openly smoking blunts. The excessive violence is controversial enough, but an animation visually stating that "drugs are cool" is bound to piss off certain individuals.

S3 2007 Jan 7, 2007 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER (Post 358499)
I find it slightly disturbing how the samurai characters are all seen openly smoking blunts. The excessive violence is controversial enough, but an animation visually stating that "drugs are cool" is bound to piss off certain individuals.

Well that's TV today for you, I've notice that for awhile now TV has been on the decline.

crabman Jan 7, 2007 12:27 AM

Did anybody find it funny how Samuel Jackson only had like 2 lines but he did them incredibly well?

Like when he's number two, and not his dad i think his only lines are: Shut up, and oishii..... refreshing.

I dunno did anybody else expect something more stereotypic of Mr. Jackson like SAY WHAT AGAIN! I DARE YOU MOTHAFUCK4 I DOUBLE DARE YA!

chato Jan 7, 2007 12:30 AM

Hey , if they want to add PIFF in this anime then they can!. No anime I've seen over the past years did that yet =]

Rockgamer Jan 7, 2007 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by crabman (Post 358560)
Did anybody find it funny how Samuel Jackson only had like 2 lines but he did them incredibly well?

Like when he's number two, and not his dad i think his only lines are: Shut up, and oishii..... refreshing.

I dunno did anybody else expect something more stereotypic of Mr. Jackson like SAY WHAT AGAIN! I DARE YOU MOTHAFUCK4 I DOUBLE DARE YA!

Umm, he's also the voice of Ninja Ninja (the sidekick dude that follows Number Two around), so he had way more than two lines in total.

Soldier Jan 7, 2007 02:17 AM

Who plays the white gunslinger with the liver spots? He sounds an awful lot like Bill, of Kill Bill (though that might be intentional).

crabman Jan 7, 2007 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RockgamerXIII (Post 358653)
Umm, he's also the voice of Ninja Ninja (the sidekick dude that follows Number Two around), so he had way more than two lines in total.

O... well thanks for bursting my bubble i hope you're happy now.

Rockgamer Jan 7, 2007 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER (Post 358671)
Who plays the white gunslinger with the liver spots? He sounds an awful lot like Bill, of Kill Bill (though that might be intentional).

I've never seen Kill Bill, and I don't remember anybody with that description (was he one of the guys during the first fight sequence with Afro?). But aside from the main characters, everyone else was voiced by regular voice actors, no celebrities or anything.

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Originally Posted by crabman (Post 358691)
O... well thanks for bursting my bubble i hope you're happy now.

I'm sorry. :(

I thought that was really obvious, though. I noticed it right away when he first started talking.

Soldier Jan 7, 2007 03:59 AM

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I've never seen Kill Bill, and I don't remember anybody with that description (was he one of the guys during the first fight sequence with Afro?).
It's the dude who killed Afro's father. I think his name is Justice or something. Anyway, he's the main bad guy (most likely).

Rockgamer Jan 7, 2007 05:29 AM

Oh, that guy! Yeah, his name is Justice (or Number One, if you prefer), and I'm pretty sure he's the main bad guy. He's voiced by Ron Pearlman.

Newbie1234 Jan 10, 2007 06:47 PM

The first episode I thought was very well done, with an excellent first 10 or so minutes. I'm hoping that we'll be seeing more of Justice in the coming episodes and not have to wait until the last one.

Probably the biggest disappointment for me is that there are only going to be 5 episodes.

Shenlon Jan 13, 2007 12:27 PM

Just in case you missed it, spiketv is hosting the new episodes weekly on their site but they do take off the previous one.
Episode 2 up Now.
http://www.spiketv.com/mods/afro/player/index.jhtml

I think what the episode lacks in story and creativity it makes up in the animation. They're also pushing the limits on what they can do even at 11pm.
Spoiler:
Lke sex scene NoWay.
I think its a cheap way to get the series up and known. But since the main character is black it was obvious that they would make him get some "nookie". I'm awaiting the arrival of the crackhead :/

crabman Jan 13, 2007 01:48 PM

Lol, awaiting a crackhead.....

And ya Shenlon i totally agree with you; afro samurai is like a visual treat but not much else. Maybe it's all the commercials stopping the flow of the show but SOMETHING about it just makes me not interested.

Does anybody else think that ninja ninja might not exist? I mean seriously think about it. He might just be a manifestation of afro's thoughts. Like so far in the story it would totally fit; right?

Soldier Jan 13, 2007 02:25 PM

Already mentioned that theory in the first page. The way he popped out of nowhere in this episode nearly confirms my beliefs.

And yeah, I don't know how they're getting away with the excessive gore and moaning sex.

Newbie1234 Jan 13, 2007 02:48 PM

Episode 2 was pretty disappointing and pretty much acknowledged that Afro Samurai's story isn't going any better than the typical run-of-the-mill anime. Still, I can imagine this episode being a lot better had the show been just a movie and things immediately moved on.

Spoiler:
The flashbacks were mostly lame, aside from the first one where Afro gets his ass beat. How he gains his skills all of a sudden also seemed poorly explained, and they should've at least have had him grow up to be a teenager before kicking ass to make it more believable.

I was also not a fan of the sex scene. Thankfully it was short, because it was just pointless to me and felt like an excuse to have sex such as in a hentai movie other than something meaningful. I felt bad for Kelly Hu, especially that her character dies right afterwards... It also made Afro seem less noble and bad ass a character in my opinion, having been baited into having sex so easily.

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Originally Posted by crabman (Post 363621)
And ya Shenlon i totally agree with you; afro samurai is like a visual treat but not much else. Maybe it's all the commercials stopping the flow of the show but SOMETHING about it just makes me not interested.

I'd have to agree as well. The story is pretty weak aside from the cool idea of the headbands and expensive visuals. The commercials also really got in the way. I might end up just downloading the episodes the day after to better enjoy them without the commercials.

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Originally Posted by crabman (Post 363621)
Does anybody else think that ninja ninja might not exist? I mean seriously think about it. He might just be a manifestation of afro's thoughts. Like so far in the story it would totally fit; right?

That seems possible actually, nobody else ever seems to notice him. We've also had no back story about their relationship so far either.

chato Jan 13, 2007 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER (Post 363663)
Already mentioned that theory in the first page. The way he popped out of nowhere in this episode nearly confirms my beliefs.

And yeah, I don't know how they're getting away with the excessive gore and moaning sex.

Ever seen Aeon Flux? That had a shitload of "moaning sex" and they got away with it. As for the second episode..I can see where it's going but I also want to see something flawless and more action. They'll redeem themselves for the live-action movie--maybe.


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