I think the reason people feel safer in a car is due to the fact that they feel in control. Theyre behind the wheel, and not putting there lives in the hands of some faceless pilot.

Another reason might be, if your car gets in a wreck, or your car breaks down, your not going to plummet thousands of feet to your death. In a plane theres no escape.

I feel a little bit nervous because my best friend is taking a plane out of Britain tomorrow. But then if you look at it statistically then there really isn't any point in being worried. At least they seemed to be on the case for this incident.

All I'm glad for is that these monstrosities to humanity were captured before they could perform their evil deed.

I thought the same thing when I heard on Fox News that the 'terror alert is back to red!'

Great. Back to wondering if that neighbor down the street is a terrorist, again. People piss me off.

I'm going to fly to Great Britain just to prove the fucking point.

Very happy nothing happen. But I'm hoping this doesn't limit what we can carry on to a plane even more. Like, now they might not let us bring any electronic devices or drinks onto a plane. Great, 18 hours of actual nothing.

Security is important, but there is other ways of insuring safety other than removing the ability all together. Better security at the customs and scan gates. But they haven't announced anything yet, so I'm just pre-emptively ranting.

Here's a list of what you're allowed to take on UK flights, at least for the short term. Forget about electonic devices; you're not even allowed to take a BOOK with you. I doubt they'd even allow tampons if they could manage to rationalise that it wasn't a big deal to hose the stains off the seats between flights.

Incidentally, if they're so afraid of liquids now, maybe it isn't the best idea to be making such a show of airport authorities dumping "potential explosives" all together in bins in the middle of CROWDED AIRPORTS.

I wasn't being sarcastic, I mean, obviously they planned to blow up the airplanes over the atlantic ocean, not over some US territory. Sure, there would have been quite a lot of US-American victims, but still, you cannot really say that these attacks were exclusively aimed at the United States of America.

That's humor at it's fucking best.

Hm...I daresay plenty of people voice "the truth." It is still...a free country, after all. As far as the items a person can take on a plane being so limited, I think it's less because they're potential threats, and more because it saves time on searching - thereby cutting the time a person would have to spend in line to get screened.

Double Post:

Oh hah, yea, I wasn't sure what you meant. But I do think "attacking the US" includes attacking citizens of the United States. And nope, definately not, these attacks weren't exclusively aimed at the US BUT - they did target US borne flights on US aircrafts. Britian is just as much a target than the US though.

On another note - the scariest thing is that it seems the suspects/the people trying to carry this out were actually FROM Britain, "homegrown" terrorists I believe the term is. Scary, right?

Well, they were mostly all originally from Pakistan, but the majority of them were British nationals, yes.

Yeah, and 2 of them had actually made Martyr tapes - ha ha, I guess those are kind of awkward now.

btw, big ups to your sig [and avatar].

Actually, British airports don't have bins, neithre do our stations. You can thank the IRA's policy of putting bombs in them for that.

As for everyone making dumb 8/10 - 9/11 links, the plotters were British and over here yesterday was 10/8/06. We write our dates the more sensible way.

I don't understand why anyone would be more scared of flying today than two days ago. Surely the fact that they caught a load of terrorists is reassuring? Now at least they can't actually blow anyone up whereas a couple of days ago they could have. The only reason to be more scared of flying now is that the US has increased the number of gun-toting air marshalls on our flights making it slightly easier for a committed highjacker to get hold of a weapon on board a plane.

I work right near Gatwick airport and I've never had such an easy drive to work as today. It's also nice and quiet without an eazyjet plane going over every five minutes. I find it pretty amusing though that most European and domestic flights have been cancelled yet all the ones from India and the Middle East are still flying fine.

I can't imagine there'll be any anti-muslim backlash over here though. The people who want to beat up "Pakis" wanted to beat them up already. That shit's been going on ever since we invented the damn country.

wow I'm so glad they were cought before anything actually happened. We didn't need a recap of 9/11.
Although the terrorrist sure are getting less creative nowadays.

It's reassuring to me, but I know my parents are trying to ban me from studying in England next semester. They think that b/c they foiled their plot this time it doesn't mean that they won't do it next time. They think the terrorists are going to try to find more clever ways of working around the counterterrorism forces and airport security. I know it's risky and they may be able to find a way around all the securities we have today, but as Rudy said on Larry King Live last night, life is full of risks and we shouldn't cancel our plans b/c of this, right?

I think the lack of creativity is what causes the U.S. Government to believe that it could be Al Queda related. Supposedly, Al Queda has been known to try the same thing a few times with little differences here and there in order to create more damage with less chance of getting caught. However, I agree, but I'm not going ot fuss too much about it since it allows the U.K. and U.S. a better chance to catch them before they strike.

this incident is perfectly timed to draw attention away from the israeli massacres in lebanon as well as giving bush a much needed boost before the US senate elections in a few weeks (nothing like a terrorist threat to instill fear in people and improve your popularity). i guarantee that most of the 19 people arrested are innocent and will be released without charge, just wait and see...

Israeli massacres? The only reason civilians are dying is because the cowardly Hezbollah fighters choose to make their bases in civilian areas. You do seem to forget, however, that these Hezbollah fighters are even worse. They're the ones throwing hundreds and hundreds of missiles into Israeli civilian areas.

That's fucking bullshit if you're not allowed to take a fucking book along. Where did you hear that?

Are the airliners taking a hit financially after this threat? Seriously, the British government is overreacting to this situation. The liquids turned into a bomb doesn't happen magically. If anything, they did it before they even showed up to the airport and put them in containers disguised as everyday objects. People do that all the time to sneak in booze to public events to avoid paying the high prices.

They caught the terrorists before they came on board, why all the unnessecary bullshit?

I'd certainly not want to fly to Britain, not because I'm scared, but because I don't want to deal with that bullshit.

mas·sa·cre (ms-kr)
n.
The act or an instance of killing a large number of humans indiscriminately and cruelly.

pretty much summarises what the israelies have been doing these last few weeks.

would you rather they made their bases in an open space with neon signs which read 'israel, please bomb here'? they're fighting a war you buffoon.

i'm not going to dignify this statement with a response.

and you'refrom palestine

/end insult

Well, that would explain his severely biased outlook on this, then.

what he says is probably biased and his second post was terribly rude, but it is possible...

bush might be trying to keep the whole terrorist thing alive and using that to justify his war on terrorism.

having england do it could also make it seem not as "set up".


regardless, if it is true, the terrorists are really getting pathetic...blowing up planes in the ocean? at least do it in the country you hate

Not really. Sure, there have been civilians killed in the crossfire. They were not killed cruelly. They were killed because of the radical militant group known as Hezbollah.
I'd rather they make their bases away from highly populated civilian areas and holy temples, like a normal army group. But, no, they choose to be cowards, and use civilians as human shields.

Killing thousands of people who live in that country accomplishes the same thing. Ten fully loaded trans-Atlantic flights would easily surpass that amount.

true, but they could do even more damage for the same cost if they did it on u.s soil

What!?

Have you ever heard of the terms 'terrorist' and 'guerilla' warfare? It's essentially the only way they stand a chance against an organized army such as the IDF.

You know, we already have a thread about Israel's war in Lebanon. Please use that thread, not this one, to discuss Israel's war in Lebanon. Thank you.