In II, Jin is very useful. Since he doesn't have an ES in II, he's a co-pilot, and some of the combined attacks with others are POWERFUL.

B.K.: That's what I thought even before I saw the trailer. Don't forget, it also shows



So, here's two questions for those who have played all 3 games:

Do you think Episodes I and II would have worked better as one game?

And do you think the "events" described as happening 6 months prior to the events in Episode III should have been made part of the game?

I & II worked fine as two games. Yes, the story ending in I was abrupt, at the same time, the arc to the story fit well. And yes, those events should have been playable. Now if only Namco US could get off its ass and deliver the promised "missing time" stories that were on the Japanese XS III website, we could at least get an introduction to Doctus, among other things. I was all like "WHO THE HELL IS THIS BITCH AND WHY IS SHE ONLY IN THE GAME FOR LIKE, 10 MINUTES?"

I've played both games back to back a couple times. They work much better back to back, so I think it would have been even better as one game. Playing them back to back, the pacing of Episode II is much better.

Of course, what I really want is an English version of Xenosaga I&II. I managed to stumble through the Japanese version. There are a lot of interesting changes in the Episode II part of the game.

Doctus had a few interesting scenes in Missing Year. Here she is kicking KOS-MOS's ass. ;)

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...Public/dvk.jpg

LOL! Doctus much be extremely powerful to be able to do that to V4 KOS-MOS. Hmm, yea Missing Year told the story behind a lot of people that is left otherwise vague in XSIII.

I have to say though, the best scene to me is when Awesome awesome. To think he annoyed me much in the first 2 games.

Leknaat I think EPII should have never been made if that counts. :)

Ok seriously I think it would have been better if the first 2 were all one game. For one thing, EPII was short lol. Albedo's role in EPI would have synched VERY WELL with his role in EPII. He's a great villain but doing that would possibly put him to the top of all villains in the RPG universe ;).

Well...the body WAS an android, you know. SO, of course she'd be pretty strong. I don't think they ever reveal who she really is, do they?

I agree wholeheartedly! The words "About damn time!" came out of my mouth more than once. And how about


No--doesn't count. :p

Oh, no--we can't have anyone top Sephiroth, now can we? :rolleyes: But, as B.K. said, playing the first two games back to back helps. I did that when II first came out--to remind me of events, of course--but when I realized that after the intro, the game picked up EXACTLY where EP I left off--that's when I felt they should have been one game.

Or all three could have been one game split into Episodes. How many of us have played games with "3 months later" popping up on the screen? It could have been done.

That's not Ver. 4. That's KOS-MOS Ver. 1.1.

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/2...2scan12wx9.jpg

THIS is version 4:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6...os015qrmr1.jpg

Well my bad, it sure looked like version 4 to me.

As for who Doctus is, her name is mentioned in EPIII database, but who knows, could be just another 'code name'.

Im replaying II, man I remember how much I hate II's battle system.. but I really liked the GS Compaigns.. I wish III had them.. I think i was almost done with 3.. had 28hours at abels ark, I guess id have beaten it in 30ish hours.

One thing, anyone else have problems with III's cutscenes? Some of them stutter quite abit. Could be my ps2 though

Cool, a thread on XS3.

I'm new in this whole Xenosaga-business, and I'm about three hours into XS3 (thought I might try out the series). I don't know, so far, the game only like a long dialogue, and I don't understand half of what's going on (empires here, armadas there). Jeez.

wow you are playing episode 3 without having played the first 2 and you are complaining about not understanding anything that is going on?

hehe, you might want to pick up the first 2.

The first one is only like 9dollars.. 2nd one is about 15 or so. :P

anyone download fmvs from
BLUE LAGUNA?

Im playing xeno2.. and the cathedral boss is just kill me . . i want to just see the rest of the cutscenes so i can move to 3 again. I got 29-33, but the 34 video says file not found :/

Xenosaga is by far the best game series in the history of mankind. (fact) If you value your sanity, start with Episode 1 and 2, otherwise 3 will steamroll your brain with confusion. You won't understand anything until you're done playing and unlock the whole in-game encyclopedia. But why spend time reading about what happened in the last two games, plus the third when you can just play them and have fun? The saga itself was supposed to be 6 games, but due to problems with staff and development it got cut in half. As a result, Episode 3 does in one game what should have spanned 3, thats alot of information to process, and the best way to prepare yourself is by playing its predecessors.

http://delta.bluelaguna.net/fmvs/xs2...to%20Omega.avi

It works for me.

its obviously having issues.. ive tried all 3 severs like 15 times.. all i got was file not found.. now the 2nd mirror is available.. wtf

Actually, to update you on what Guest said:

XenoGEARS was made by Squaresoft at the same time that FF8 was in production. But, Square said--"No more money for Gears! We're giving it to FF8!" So, the second disc of Gears was full of narration with only a few playable parts. At the end of the game, you see: Chapter V.

Well, we got no more XenoGears, but the people who had worked on it at Square had left and formed Monolith--the people who bring you XenoSAGA. As Guest said, it was supposed to be longer, but due to money issues, and personnel changes (one of the main writers went bye-bye), they decided to stop at 3. (I remember speculation that XS3 was actually going to be for the PS3).

Now, legally, they can't call the game XenoGEARS since Square owns the rights to it, nor can they come out and outright say: Yes, they ARE connected--again, for legal issues. But, they can leave hints lying around leaving people to come to their own conclusions.

But, you TRULY need to have some familiarity with the first two games. There are too many references in 3 that don't make sense without it.

anyone know other than blue laguna, where i can get the cutscenes from Xeno2? I cannot seem to download anymore from that site.. all i get is 404 - file not found now.

Try now. It's working for me, too.

It might not be what you're looking for, but if you're desperate: http://www.youtube.com/user/shokkuweibu Youtube ftw!

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-...5sh-43-9k.html

So is anyone else buying this or what?

I've got the first Alter KOS-MOS figure, and it's pretty fantastic. This will hopefully be the same way.

Wow, thats an awesome looking toy. But as much as I love KOS-MOS I never buy anything more than the game itself. I don't even buy strategy guides anymore, thanks to GameFAQs. Maybe if they made a fully functional, life-size model of KOS-MOS.. I could think of some ways to play with her and buy one. >_>

Why only KOS-MOS? T-ELOS would be cool, too. Not life-size or fully functional, but cool, anyway.

ya, after pulling my hair out trying to get them from blue laguna.. i just watched them on youtube.. sure the quality wasnt as good.. but least i can start 3 lol