It's not too far fetched to believe that the first failure of the system could have brought down the plane and left the bunker intact. I would assume that the bunker would have built out of concrete instead of using anything metallic, if they knew about the magnetic fields before hand and that would have prevented the collapse of the bunker when the 'device' discharged it's extra electromagnetic force and sent things flying. If

All that would need to happen would need to happen would be for the 'device' to set off an enormous electromagnetic pulse when it was discharged, thus frying the electrical system of the plane flying over head, causing it to depressurize, rip in half and crash into the ocean. An electromagnetic pulse would have no affect on Desmond or anyone else within the vicinity.

Strange, for me the tube thing reminded me of that Futurama episode where Planet Express invades the center of Beauraucracy to find a massive pile of message tubes on the floor for Hermes to sort. Guess Lost isn't the only show to use recycled ideas.

I'm pretty sure those two guys in the station were speaking Portugese.

I know I'm certainly one of the assholes who expects the monster to be out there. Not because I love the idea of some black smoke fucked up thing howling in the woods, but because I expect people to be consistent.

At the beginning of the show, it was a main reason NOT to go into the woods. Now, people traipse through the woods non-chalantly as though no smoke monster actually exists.

And I am not debating the fatality of thing. I know it only killed the pilot (if even that) and made lovey eyes at Eko and Locke. But seriously, it really pisses me off that they had it as an interesting little quirk, and now its completely disappeared.

These fucking writers suck at consistency. I'll take it all back if they start working with the paths they originally laid out, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Maybe it's a shapeshifter? It's made out of angst anyway.

Could the horse Kate saw also be it?

Seriously, ditch the monster and focus on The Original Settlers' evilness. They're badass in their rampant haterism.

The appearance of random bizarro animals (black horses, polar bears, GIANT FUCKING PTERODACTYLS the screech "HURLEY") is probably just something to blame Dharma for.

Or maybe the island really is, like, Noah's Arc. And we can totally blame Dharma for it.

I mean, Desmond WAS on about there being "no outside world." You never know~ I know I would enjoy and end-of-the-world scenario.

Are you talking about "the hostiles" aka The Others? Because they're REALLY not that interesting if you ask me. =/ They're going to have to step it up a notch if they want to catch my attention. And it can't involve an EXPERIMENT GONE WRONG. -_- This is not Dr. Moreau's Island. ;_;

I kind of agree with that. I mean, even after they discovered the Others, which were another reason not to go into the woods, there they still went, traipsing around as though they were in Candyland or something. :rolleyes:

I personally like them. They're just so incomprehensible it gives the whole series a fear of their unpredictableness, you know. The horror aspect of the beginning of season 1 is back, in my opinion. They totally aren't going to let Michael out just yet. Even if it were possible, unlike what Desmond had empirically experienced.

Maybe it's a space station complex, that's just a huge bubble of ocean floating in space with fake always sunny sky with completely random and meteorologically illogical rainstorms. The thought gives me shivers.

They've got directions to lead the series to, alright.

EDIT: Another thing with he space stuff. The not-pushing-button leading to emo unstable gravity would even back up the story I just now jokingly conjured. D:

EDIT 2: That talking archaeopteryx was indeed creepy, now that I think of it. It said Kate's name too.

I really don't think that's what's happening. It's been done in other movies/shows.

Just take Truman Show + Dark City and there you go. I saw an Outer Limits episode where a town was teleported (buildings and ground and all) onto an alien planet in a giant bubble.

It's played out.

I HAVE heard a rumor about the "every 108 minutes" thing regarding a satellite thing. I wish I had a link to the rumor. It is an ACTUAL thing - a satellite needs to collect data every 108 minutes to do something. Man. Someone correct me if I am completely off base with the theory. (I said thing a lot more than necessary in this paragraph. ;_; )

Now that I've seen some Portuguese dudes out in the middles of a snow storm monitoring things, I THINK it's plausible. I will have to look for the theory.

Also, DeGroot is an actual author about electro-magneticism as Sarah and I discovered when we were looking at electro-magneticism books in Borders, once. I nearly had a heart attack when I saw the name in that section.

And I think the Others as they are now are fucking boring. Unless they're like space aliens who are trying to colonize Earth or something. But I mean, theres not a whole shitload they can DO. But maybe they'll get creative, and ignore consistency again!

Damn, the finale was awesome. And with all that they revealed, it seems like it'll take them 4 or 5 seasons to explain how deep things go. I wish Michael had given Jack, Kate, and Sawyer a "peace out" gesture when he was leaving on the boat... that would've been pricelessly funny.

Loved the bit with the broken statue with 4 toes. I enjoy the theories that the others are some space aliens, or maybe they're people from the future somehow studying "primitive" humans. Maybe the cast of Lost isn't on earth anymore, but on an ark on a new planet that has been terraformed. The giant magnet may provide a simulated magnetic pole and help secure the gravity and orbit of the planet. In some ways, I hope that they story isn't another retelling of an allegory of the cave style story like the Matrix, the Truman Show, or Dark City. It'd be nice to have something else to really throw you for a loop.

No, I disagree. The bunker itself has a metallic hull. Or what about the counter? It crumbled as well before Desmond activated the failsafe. That should have happened before a plane got broken, at the very least. I'd actually find it more believable for the plane to just be sucked toward the island instead of breaking in half. For it to break in half, I'd imagine there'd have to be two opposing forces on either end of the plane.

Oh, and the heiroglyphics. They still don't really have any purpose. Whoever put them there is an idiot.

But not as idiotic as the person who set up the system. I figured that there would be a reason for the button needing to be pressed by a human as opposed to the process being automated. I'd sooner trust an automated system to discharge a giant magnet then some people who are going to be trapped in that bunker for more than a year. I mean, Kelvin's friend (forgot the name) blew his own brains out, I'm guessing because he was bored as fuck with the process of putting in the numbers. Whoever created the system had to see that kind of thing coming and should have known that humans aren't psychologically stable enough to consistently handle a task that could destroy the planet (presumably).

And you know what still gets me. The map on the blast door. It had no purpose either. Originally I theorized that whoever was drawing it was hiding it from his partner in the bunker, but then I found out both Kelvin and his friend and Desmond were all aware of it. SO WHY HIDE IT? Why make it only visible with a blacklight when you can get out a piece of paper and a pen and get to sketching, and hang it up on the wall? Is there no paper? Then carve it on the fucking floor. But why make it invisible? The only reason I can think of is to save the revelation until late in the season.

Double Post:
This is how I feel. But shit, if they've seen it as few times as we have, maybe they figure the odds of it showing up are slim.

Also, lately there has been increased talk of the Mapinguari. I've been trying to find the pic of one that someone recently got off the hansofoundation website that shows one. I thought that the Mapinguari was just a red herring, but since this whole Lost Experience thing is serious business, I'm wondering if the Mapinguari actually has something to do with the island, whether or not it's the actual monster.

Oh yeah here is the pic:
http://djdan.am/mn_img/beast/reconstruction.gif

What does everyone think would've happened if Desmond never turned the key and they all left the hatch, and let the thing continue to go berserk in the hatch?

It couldn't have killed everyone on the island, I wonder if it would just continue until the entire hatch just caves in.

Presumably, every metallic object from around the planet gathers at that one point.

(I have no idea.)

I don't understand why people like Eleo and Sass watch shows like this, because it's obviously never going to meet their standards for credibility. I mean, if that's your bag, to pick apart a fantasy show for the little bits of gleaming artistic liberties, that's cool, but I don't see how you can enjoy the episode and pull your hair out at the same time.

(Also holy shit I love this show, but where are Locke, Eko and Desmond, and why is Charlie being such a cockknocker about explaining what happened?)

Sorry if it's been mentioned before, but why is Kurgan back as Desmond's partner? He was in Sayid's military flashbacks, and now he's in the hatch... hmm.

Well, Inman said that he was kicked out of the army for people following his orders, indicating war crimes. He then went and joined DHARMA.

I thought it was a very good finale. The statue has me intrigued, as does what the Others want with Sawyer, Kate and Jack. I loved the stuff in the Hatch. The ringing in Charlies ears is most likely due to the dynamite going off than the EMP, but ya never know. I felt sooooo sorry for Locke at the end. And Desmond better be alive. I love Desmond so bloody much.

Oh, and CHARLIE AND CLAIRE!!!!!! YEEEEEHAW!!

I agree; Eleo has been complaining about this show for as long as I can remember, and he still keeps watching it. It's the same with Alias. Oh well, what can you do.
I dunno about Eko and Locke, but it has been revealed in a podcast that at least
Charlie, it seems, has lost some of his memory or something. Maybe it's because of the EMP? Everyone on the island seemed pretty ''whatever'' about the huge flash of light, maybe it's some psychological effect of it.

Actually Aardark, I remember the first season being good and have, for this entire season, been waiting for it to get good again, but it hasn't.

Now I just hate the show; my goal is to destroy it.

I often find myself watching extremely bad series as well because I just wish them to get better, so I kind of don't understand how that's wrong in any possible way.

I don't have much of a problem with finales if they have cliffhangers. It's Lost, I expected as much. But after that whole situation with the hatch, to end up at Charlie being his retarded self and Claire kissing him (AWW HOW FUCKING ADORABLE LA DEE DA) was just a slap in the face. I hope he dies of a heroin overdose.

And I mean, going to the Portugese guys at the monitoring station really didn't add much to it. It was really sort of like a "So what?" ending, and that's what bothered me, because so much EPIC CRAZY shit was going on, then bam, "So what?"

Quite irritating.

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I like Charlie! He's funny! Plus I've been waiting for that kiss for 2 seasons now, 'bout time it happened. And most likely the EMP scrambled his brain a little bit. We do have an electric charge running through us so it could be affected.

I can't say that it's objectively wrong in all possible cases, however I personally believe that a person should have certain priorities. Like, it's probably more productive to try finding another show that you like more, instead of effectively wasting twenty hours on something that you don't really enjoy. Your watching of extremely bad series does not contribute to their getting better. I think it's pretty likely that their level of quality is quite independent from the actions of one (potential) viewer. If they do get better sometime in the future, you will probably hear about it, one way or another, and will be able to start watching the series again. Another way is just watching, say, one out of every five episodes, to see if the quality has improved.

If Eleo, really 'hates the show and wants to destroy it' then it would really make more sense for him to find a better show, and make a thread for it, thus making it more popular, and, ideally, taking some fans away from the boring shit that is Lost.

Of course, this is all just my opinion, and I don't insist that it applies to everyone (or anyone else, for that matter), but at least now you have one subjectively possible way of how it is 'wrong'.

You sound pretty annoyed.

I'm just wondering, what is your opinion of the show? Did you find Season 2 to be excellent?

At least, the Charlie/Clairet-thingie, sets up some things for the next season..

I'm wondering, where Michael goes with the boat, and what's Sayid doing now, making black smoke all on his alone.

Is Michael just cruising around the Island, going to the original beach "Hi there, I brought Walt. Ohh, seems like I forgot Jack and so no.."?

Probably, Hurley also gets killed on his way back to the camp - hell, this is Island is too fucking dangerous.

Where has Charlie been while Desmond turned the key? Just some thinking about, who died by the incident and who didn't..

and aalso:

The sciencetist at the end of the episode just showed, that the Island must be placed anywhere on earth - if not, the magnetical waves must transfer through dimensions. Woo.