As for the main game. I was right. Her mistress is named; Lightning (romanji; Rightuningu)

Here's more what they had to say on both XIII games. Still, they [both stories] may still be in speculation.

Main XIII

Versus XIII

What do you guys think of this?

I was shocked to learn there was actually some truth to the stupid Lightning rumors, but keep in mind that the translations say it's a "code name". So it could work on that sense.

Clearer Translations:


More detail about the New FFXIII character:

Hmm.. so basically is he a blond older tougher looking Dante? Interesting.

And FYI, the Agito footage is the same. (not that we seen it yet anyway.)

The new guy

A possible Summon (Shiva?)

Solid design on the male. Doesn't look like a Cloud/Squall ripoff, doesn't look like a bishonen either.

Kinda reminds me of Seifer a bit, what with the jacket (and beanie, from his KH2 appearance) Which is not bad, because he was an awesome character.

Summon looks awesome too :) Looks kind of technology-infused almost!

Hmm, sounds like theres a new trailer out there somewhere.

Yeah, it says it, there was a new trailer shown along with the old one (with new scenes). Overall, I'm not really enthused. We've got another "chosen one" story, and what sounds like another religon in FFXIII.

Amazingly, FFvXIII is actually sounds more interesting at this point. A cold war? From previous info, an isolated city and a crystal being fought over.

And tech-fused monsters/summons can look good, but they often don't.

Its a chosen one story, except the chosen one brings doom to mankind, not save it. A rare one from FF. And the Lightening is still frigging bad ass.

Most cliches have a pure white mage like girl who is kind, sweet, maybe a klutz and shes chosen to save the world using her pue magic powers, which is to me, ick.

But Lightening, she's a bad ass, shes a rebel as shown in the trailer of invading a train transporting the people in this harsh migration, she kicks a whole troop of soldiers and andriods asses, and she's supposdly brings doom to the world, making her actions a bit of a juxtaposition, which can lead to character development and good plot elements. And all this in a female character for once. Now imagine more characters that can have good development in this game.

And it doesn't have to be religion, could be a goverment thing like a Royal Cospiracy with the migration. It might related to religios type attitudes, but I doubt its anything like FFX. It might be an enforcment from a imposing Kingdom/culture or anything. Like some darker version of Robin Hood's world, theres no major religous element in that story, just oppression. Cept unlike FF12's empire, they are kinda helping people but also screwing them at the same time, instead of invade, they imported them in.

So personally I see potential in FF13's story, and the fact they finally have a male that looks attractive Dante DMC style instead of Jpop magazine boy idol style is fresh and more appealing. And a story that seems to be breaking away from the typical FF or even JRPG norm.

As for FFVS13, like the concept, but its still rather vague at this point.

They could be bringing a bag of Sun Chips and dip to mankind, as long as they're some "chosen one" it knocks the game down quite a few pegs for me. XII was a surprising breath of fresh air for the series, and now from what we know, it's going back to its regular self.

Also, don't expect that "doom" thing to last to the end, as a reversal will likely occur, revealing that it's actually the source of salvation/hope for the world.

I'm pretty curious about the crystal choosing a person, I wonder if that mean lend his power... and by this, what if the crystal that chose that girl "lightning" was somewhat the summon Ixion or maybe a crystal with the lightning power.

ok ok here's where I'm going:

remember this logo?
http://content.imagesocket.com/thumbs/logo_bigb16.jpg

we can clearly see a women transform into a unicorn, which is the link to my theory about Ixion


anyone think this could be true? or am I just pushing to far XD

Well I will admit the chosen one thing is getting old. Then again, Ashe is kinda of a chosen one herself in FF12, she didnt have some crystal ball tell her this, but her Royal blood and obligation was clue enough that we dont need it. FF12 was more about the world, where as the usual FF is more character focus. And I prefer character focused stories.

And it could end up as a ray of hope thing, though the fact they are pitching this as a bringer of doom thing, we might get something very different, perhaps something morbid or we in the end play the role of an inevitable villianess. Who knows at this point? I think this could be a fresh story personally, a darker path.

Really? Chosen ones are that way from birth, ordained by the gods, fate, whatever the hell.

The series has long followed your preference, it's one of the roots of complaints made of the Final Fantasy games. Let's leave the stale formula alone for at least another title or two, ok?

I agree this still holds quite a bit of potential and I'm looking forward to any sliver of information that leaks out, but it's not looking so great now.

Roots of complain being that it focused too much on characters or just simply bad writing?

I personally like to see a little more character interaction in FF12, I mean c'mon, the great TV shows like Lost, Galatica, 24 or alot of movies and anime wouldn't work if it wasn't for character interactions and development as well. FF12 had a different focus, but it doesnt' mean it needs to diminish the characters that much, half the party didnt get much development, just back stories.

Games like FF8 and prob others I'm not too familiar with had bad writing or bad characters and developments, but that doesn't mean character moments/interaction/development hindered FF, its all simply boils down to writers not knowing how to get out of the sterotypical characters arcs, rather than the element of character development hindering the story. And I feel that FF13 has a potential to take characters, ESPECIALLY the main female lead into a different path than the usual cliche, I mean her job class is already different, and she's far from a sweet and timid girl.

Its probably all a matter of opinion, but I still believe character is an important element in any story, and it should be toned down if its getting old or the focus is shifted, but not diminished like FF12 did to Vaa or Penelo and others. It still has a plot surrounding these characters, not a anthology of different sets of groups/army like FF tactics. As long as you have a permanent party of characters that you have to control, you have to give them some sort of development, otherwise they might as well be mute puppets. I see FF12's style of story telling work better in Tactics, cause we control a large range of characters that don't need much development, cause they are just part of a huge tale of the world and not part of the whole story from start to end.

Though this is just my view on how any story should be written. Take it as you will. You have raise alot of good points though with the bad cliches and bad writing that FF seems to have gotten stuck in for a damn long time, but from what I have seen from Lightening, I'm rather optimistic.

I'm agree Kairi Li on this, and what you said in spoiler doesn't change the fact that Ashe was a "chosen one", only reinforced it.



Furthermore according to your criteria FFXIII's Main Character isn't a chosen since she does not meet those requirements aside for possibly "fate" (i.e being there at the wrong time), but Ashe does meet some of them, Also aside for FFI-V (a bit VI as well), and X (kinda) there been any "chosen ones", so it's hardly overused.


Im not sure what this "formula" your going about is considering how different these games are from one another.


More info courtesy of GameFAQs.

A realtime vid of "Cocoon" as well as a image:

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5010/sspc6ey8gj6.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xct7VrBOJuc&eurl=

Of course, you could argue all that was orchestrated or "fated" so she would be the only one.




- You're chosen

That's all you need. We've got one where this is the case and another where it's not. That's all. Hopefully the series doesn't adopt the crutch of mediocre RPGs around simply because it hasn't abused it.


Are you being obtuse, or are you actually being serious here?

so I guess my little theory just got engulf in your discussion XD

Wait, what theory is that? As far as I know, that discussion's over.

This new info's got my mind racing here.

It wouldn't matter since there can be more than one "chosen one".



Except not that it. In many stories people are "chosen" for different they are necessary by Gods either. FFXII is no different. WWhat matters is what they are being "chosen" for, and in FFXIII's case it's not save anyone.


Yes, because the war bewteen two nations and strongheaded princess being resuced by thiefs like setting hasn't been overused before in "mediocre RPGs".



Your the one who's using blanket statements such as "formula" implying that every FF game is same except for FFXII, and yes I'm serious.

Hey I posted the exact same theory earlier in this thread! Good to know I'm not alone in thinking this.
http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/rp...tml#post139690

oh lol well I'm not alone thinking this ^^ I think it could be a neat gameplay feature, like every character has his own power and could invoke that summon, I don't know

Hmm, I think the Crystal is evil. Simplistic, no? Or, if not, leaning towards the dark. That idea sounds great Inhert. Maybe they pick more people and give them the power to destroy mankind (different element for each).

Her name/codename is Lightning, could it be related to the crystal's position in the sky and maybe the power it bestows?

Guess I'll enter the conversation...

In regards to the story in FFXIII, I hope they focus on it a little more. The FFXII story was horrid.



I hope FFXIII has more character development (than FFXII) and an intriguing plot, above everything else. Not having a "chosen" main character is challenging. Especially in a game oriented around fighting, and having a final boss. I'm glad that they are "going back" to the old FF style, it is very enjoyable, it just needs some innovative twists added here and there (I wouldn't mind a complete change, but that could easily be bad rather than good).

GAAH! And they have Hamauzu doing the music! After hearing the USaga tracks, and a few of the FFX tracks he did (including "The Decisive Battle" :-), I expect a brilliant Soundtrack for FFXIII, as for FFvXIII, I don't know that composer, but the music in the trailer is pretty good, I hope the style goes throughout.

The theory about the crystal and it's power (the Female ---> Unicorn deal) sounds pretty cool, considering this Fabula Nova Crystallis project is wide spread it would make sense.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think FFvXIII's soundtrack is going to be done by Yoko Shimomura, and hopefully in better quality than the KH2 OST...maybe it was just me who thought the quality of KH2's OST was lacking (the music in and of itself was fantastic, however).

Yeah, Yoko Shimomura will be scoring FFVSXIII. I'm curious to see how her score will turn out.

The synth quality was lacking due to the sound programmer, KH1 had the guy who did Chrono Cross, and we all know CC had one of the best sound synth quality during the playstation era. They got something else for KH2 and he did a horrible job, the POTC theme is marred. Thank god some tracks were orchestrated.

And I am interested in what formula Metal Sphere meant in the FF series that seemed to make it all the same to him. From what I have played, FF6 is very different from FFX. FFX-2 was also different from FFX itself. If you're referring to anime like cliches, well, it only started in the PSX era, FF6 and before didnt have the anime character stuff in it. For me FF12 had a so so plot that bounced from political to man VS god and it wasn't focused, and the lack of character interaction also hurt this.

The idea that we play a part in destroying mankind in FF13 (perhaps either for greater good like purifying the world or we're just plain evil) sounds intriguing and appealing to me. And the idea of a character not just summoning a summon, but BECOMING one makes it sound even more bad ass. Also love the idea of each character having a specific element in their power, makes it so each character HAS to be unique unlike FF7-12 (minus 9) which the only unique element is overdrives attacks.

And her codename could be something the people gave her, she was using more gravity elements than Lightening in the trailer (and fire attacks too), so I think they gave her that name cause she's fast as lightening, which she was. She took down a whole group of soldiers in a few seconds!