Do any of yall know the name of the theme playing when....
Jin and the others (in E.S-es) finally finish off Pellegri once and for all in Michtam (in the Archon Spaceport). There's a flute playing. Sad... sad... (not really)
MrSatan
Jan 9, 2007 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Sepharite
(Post 302903)
What's the difference between the revive (forgot what it's called) that costs 600 and the seven moons which cost 300 (heals all the HP/EP), while the other one only heals a majority of the HP.
i was wondering the same thing, and to my knowledge, seven moons is BETTER then revive, cause its cheaper, and restore hp/mp.
the only thing is that you can buy it only on miltia.
i guess that probably the designers of the game thought that miltia was accessible only one time, and then they change it.
that is my best guess about that.:katamari:
Sepharite
Jan 9, 2007 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MrSatan
(Post 360295)
i was wondering the same thing, and to my knowledge, seven moons is BETTER then revive, cause its cheaper, and restore hp/mp.
the only thing is that you can buy it only on miltia.
i guess that probably the designers of the game thought that miltia was accessible only one time, and then they change it.
that is my best guess about that.:katamari:
That's exactly what I thought... until after Miltia. The after effects are hideous. If you use it to revive a character, they automatically turn to stone and is immediately removed from the battle. So, I suggest doing the Seven Moons sidequest instead.
MOLD
Jan 9, 2007 05:46 PM
Wha...? There's a Seven Moons sidequest? I remember I used Seven Moons after Miltia and nothing happened to my people...
Leknaat
Jan 10, 2007 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Guest
(Post 289167)
Whoa.. I just saw The Da Vinci Code and it hit me like a ton of bricks.
Spoiler:
I bet the developer's really liked Dan Brown's novel. I'm surprised no one mentioned the similarities between Episode III and that movie. Of course, it doesn't come until the end of the game, when we find out about KOS-MOS's origin. I remember T-Elos saying Mary Magdalene was the partner of The Messiah, but I don't think she meant Jesus. It was obviously chaos since they had that kind of relationship. I'm more curious about Shion's role as Mary's 'maiden', a rather insignificant relationship which I believe deserved alot more detail. It'd have been much more interesting if they connected her to an actual person, with a real name.
Urge to replay Xenosaga III has increased by 72%.
(I just got the game, so that's why the late entry)
I'll do it as a spoiler just in case there are those--like me--who couldn't get it until now.
Spoiler:
I read the DaVinci Code before the movie came out, and the theories used in it are CENTURIES old. I had heard the theories myself and wanted to see how Brown had presented them to his readers. He did a fairly decent job--although bits of the story were contrived for entertainment purposes....
Wilhelm calls chaos "Yeshua"--which means Jesus. And Mary Magdalene was the companion of Jesus. And KOSMOS translates into order and chaos...well...chaos. So, who was everyone watching in Lost Jerusalem? Remember, Margulis was told they had worshiped a man they THOUGHT was the Messiah.
The person they were watching could have been nothing more than a man spreading the word of God--you know, a preacher. And since chaos was there, he could have helped the man along by performing those miracles that we know about.
Just something to ponder...
As for the ending. I thought it was a rather neat "trick" by the company. Think about it. People have been speculating about the Xenogears/Xenosaga character connections (not to mention certain building similarities *wink wink*), and reincarnation kept popping up. Living a life over and over and over....So, we can just go back to the beginning and keep playing over and over and over....
And, one last thought. About Allen:
About damn time!
MOLD
Jan 10, 2007 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Leknaat
(Post 361034)
And, one last thought. About Allen:
About damn time!
Hahaha! I know, right!?
The ending was quite sad... Why did (blank) have to die?!!! (though it looked pretty cheezy without the blood... -_-) Agh! Of all people... Now I really wish the company would come out with a fourth episode... that'd be... so awesome!
Leknaat
Jan 10, 2007 05:25 PM
I don't know how many people don't know about that part of the game (although I knew before I even bought the game), so spoiler tags might be good.
And how else were they going to explain the similarities to Xenogears with the characters? If you think back to what was said during that time, it all makes sense.
MOLD
Jan 12, 2007 09:23 PM
Ok... not really sure what Xenogears is so...
Well, I wouldn't be surprised there were similarities. I mean, just look at the names. Just from that, I know there has to be some relationship.
Leknaat
Jan 13, 2007 01:53 AM
Okay....
So you do know what Xenogears is?
MOLD
Jan 14, 2007 11:41 AM
Ermm..... no... heheh... Heard of it. But never actually made sure I knew what it was. Feel free to explain. ^^;
ZealPath
Jan 14, 2007 04:46 PM
So who here would pay for a standalone HaKox game with a ton of new levels, featuers, etc?
I totally would, but the opinions on this mini-game seem to vary.
Leknaat
Jan 15, 2007 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MOLD
(Post 364682)
Ermm..... no... heheh... Heard of it. But never actually made sure I knew what it was. Feel free to explain. ^^;
Go here and look at it, and tell me if there's a familiar-looking image on the front page. :)
Wha?! There's a Citan Uzuki?? He reminds me of Jin...
And on the front page... well there's this robot-thing that looks like an E.S.
B.K.
Jan 18, 2007 10:18 PM
There are a lot of Xenogears cameos in Xenosaga. Xenosaga itself is just a retelling of Xenogears Episode I. If you read Xenogears: Perfect Works, you see a lot of things that are similar.
Leknaat
Jan 19, 2007 12:38 AM
BK--huh, wha? What do you mean "retelling?"
MOLD: You found the connection. That's why Jin was where he was at the end of the game. :)
B.K.
Jan 19, 2007 01:05 AM
I meant what I said. Xenosaga is a retelling of Xenogears Episode I. Obviously, they aren't the same. It's a retelling in the way some animes do retellings of stories from previous seasons/series. The very basic story is based off of Xenogears Episode I, but there are a lot of alterations to it that it becomes its own story.
Leknaat
Jan 19, 2007 07:57 AM
Okay. I see what you mean now. More of a "based on" approach than an actual retelling.
Marina
Jan 22, 2007 12:49 AM
Thanks a lot Yamamanama,it's really great song :)
I'm quite disappoint the way they use "KOSMOS~Hepatica", the song itself is really really great but didn't work in battle scene... I really enjoyed it on OST.
About Shion and KOSMOS relation
Spoiler:
Nephilim said that Mary was Shion's other half? But the rest said that she is the maiden of Mary...so what does that mean? She is the same person(The part of Mary that died when used sealing power and the will is KOSMOS? ) or ....
B.K.
Jan 22, 2007 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Marina
(Post 370591)
About Shion and KOSMOS relation
Spoiler:
Nephilim said that Mary was Shion's other half? But the rest said that she is the maiden of Mary...so what does that mean? She is the same person(The part of Mary that died when used sealing power and the will is KOSMOS? ) or ....
From the Xenosaga Episode III: Perfect Guide:
Spoiler:
17. What is the Maiden of Maria?
Shion's previous existence, the Maiden of Maria-- what kind of person was it? In the era of ancient Lost Jerusalem, the Maiden of Maria existed at what kind of position? And what kind of ability did she possess?
{captions}
1) Maria, as the actualized existence of the power of Animus in the real-number domain. She was the partner of the Messiah in the era of ancient Lost Jerusalem. (EPIII)
2,3) The graveyard of Rennes-le-Chateau. In the era of ancient Lost Jerusalem, Maria died when she divided the power of Anima into the Vessels of Anima, and this is where her body was laid to rest. (EPIII)
4,6) From the sealed Lost Jerusalem, only the land in the vicinity of Rennes-le-Chateau appeared in real-number domain space. (EPIII)
5) The hypersphere that surrounded Rennes-le-Chateau. (EPIII)
<<The "Apostles">>
"Apostle" means a person who devoutly endeavors in holy work. In the era of ancient Lost Jerusalem, there were 12 Apostles for the man who was called the Messiah. Because this number of people was used also in connection with later eras' religious authorities, nowadays after thousands of years have passed, it is difficult to confirm the exact number of people or exact members. There also existed many people around the Messiah who were similar to the Apostles.
Among the people such as that who encircled the Messiah, was Maria. She was the partner of the Messiah, and her existence, the same as chaos, was someone extremely close to the Messiah.
And then, in order to use that power of Animus in Maria, there was an existence that was also called Maria's Apostle. That was the Maiden of Maria-- Shion's previous existence.
[Refer to section: 15, 32]
<<Maria's Death>>
If the Maiden of Maria is necessary in order to use the power of Animus-- Maria's real form-- when the power of Anima was divided, the Maiden of Maria probably used that power.
The ability of the Maiden of Maria is the ignition that allows the release of the power of Animus, and it is also the released power's control. By that meaning, the manifestation of the power of Animus requires both Maria and the Maiden.
At that time, the power of Animus scattered throughout the UMN, and Maria's real-number domain existence died. Her body was buried at Rennes-le-Chateau.
Ages afterward, Maria's consciousness was revived in Kos-mos, and she spoke that long ago she ended up allowing the Maiden to die. Does this indicate that the Maiden of Maria also died along with Maria at that time? Or did Maria die, leaving the Maiden behind, and afterwards, the Maiden fell into a situation that lead to death? Either way, it is perhaps that the death of Maria and the death of the Maiden are not unrelated.
[Refer to section: 15, 25]
<<The Maiden's Death>>
Before the death of Maria. Shion's previous existence, the Maiden of Maria, met with death. But it is unclear what kind of event it was. However, the consciousness of Maria that had awakened in Kos-mos regretted that she was not able to protect Shion who was once the Maiden. In other words, it is thought that after chaos' power was divided, in the interval until Maria died, Maria lost the power of Animus, and right before her eyes, Shion's previous existence, due to some sort of incident, met with death.
[Refer to section: 25]
<<Apostle and Maiden>>
The Maiden of Maria constantly accompanied Maria. It was just like how the Messiah's Apostles accompanied him.
In other words, just as the Apostles were present where the Messiah was present, so too was the Maiden where Maria was present. If an image of those times had been left behind, maybe a figure of the Maiden of Maria could have been confirmed.
[Refer to section: none]
Leknaat
Jan 22, 2007 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by B.K.
(Post 370624)
From the Xenosaga Episode III: Perfect Guide:
Spoiler:
17. What is the Maiden of Maria?
Shion's previous existence, the Maiden of Maria-- what kind of person was it? In the era of ancient Lost Jerusalem, the Maiden of Maria existed at what kind of position? And what kind of ability did she possess?
{captions}
1) Maria, as the actualized existence of the power of Animus in the real-number domain. She was the partner of the Messiah in the era of ancient Lost Jerusalem. (EPIII)
2,3) The graveyard of Rennes-le-Chateau. In the era of ancient Lost Jerusalem, Maria died when she divided the power of Anima into the Vessels of Anima, and this is where her body was laid to rest. (EPIII)
4,6) From the sealed Lost Jerusalem, only the land in the vicinity of Rennes-le-Chateau appeared in real-number domain space. (EPIII)
5) The hypersphere that surrounded Rennes-le-Chateau. (EPIII)
<<The "Apostles">>
"Apostle" means a person who devoutly endeavors in holy work. In the era of ancient Lost Jerusalem, there were 12 Apostles for the man who was called the Messiah. Because this number of people was used also in connection with later eras' religious authorities, nowadays after thousands of years have passed, it is difficult to confirm the exact number of people or exact members. There also existed many people around the Messiah who were similar to the Apostles.
Among the people such as that who encircled the Messiah, was Maria. She was the partner of the Messiah, and her existence, the same as chaos, was someone extremely close to the Messiah.
And then, in order to use that power of Animus in Maria, there was an existence that was also called Maria's Apostle. That was the Maiden of Maria-- Shion's previous existence.
[Refer to section: 15, 32]
<<Maria's Death>>
If the Maiden of Maria is necessary in order to use the power of Animus-- Maria's real form-- when the power of Anima was divided, the Maiden of Maria probably used that power.
The ability of the Maiden of Maria is the ignition that allows the release of the power of Animus, and it is also the released power's control. By that meaning, the manifestation of the power of Animus requires both Maria and the Maiden.
At that time, the power of Animus scattered throughout the UMN, and Maria's real-number domain existence died. Her body was buried at Rennes-le-Chateau.
Ages afterward, Maria's consciousness was revived in Kos-mos, and she spoke that long ago she ended up allowing the Maiden to die. Does this indicate that the Maiden of Maria also died along with Maria at that time? Or did Maria die, leaving the Maiden behind, and afterwards, the Maiden fell into a situation that lead to death? Either way, it is perhaps that the death of Maria and the death of the Maiden are not unrelated.
[Refer to section: 15, 25]
<<The Maiden's Death>>
Before the death of Maria. Shion's previous existence, the Maiden of Maria, met with death. But it is unclear what kind of event it was. However, the consciousness of Maria that had awakened in Kos-mos regretted that she was not able to protect Shion who was once the Maiden. In other words, it is thought that after chaos' power was divided, in the interval until Maria died, Maria lost the power of Animus, and right before her eyes, Shion's previous existence, due to some sort of incident, met with death.
[Refer to section: 25]
<<Apostle and Maiden>>
The Maiden of Maria constantly accompanied Maria. It was just like how the Messiah's Apostles accompanied him.
In other words, just as the Apostles were present where the Messiah was present, so too was the Maiden where Maria was present. If an image of those times had been left behind, maybe a figure of the Maiden of Maria could have been confirmed.
[Refer to section: none]
Thank you. That confirms what I thought.
Spoiler:
KOS-MOS' eyes always turned blue when she used her power to help Shion--Mary protecting her Maiden. This is why Shion was necessary to awaken Mary. Remember in Episode II--Shion (and Allen) were put in danger just so KOS-MOS would awaken and go after Shion. The more Shion was in trouble, the more times Mary would emerge until complete. (At least that's what they hoped).
MOLD
Jan 26, 2007 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Leknaat
(Post 367782)
BK--huh, wha? What do you mean "retelling?"
MOLD: You found the connection. That's why Jin was where he was at the end of the game. :)
But... what was the connection between those two? I know they look similar, but how does it connect with the ending?
Sepharite
Jan 26, 2007 08:13 PM
You really have to play Xenogears to really get it. Seriously, us telling you will just ruin it if you're thinking of playing it. But don't think - play it now! Grr.
B.K.
Jan 27, 2007 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MOLD
(Post 373814)
But... what was the connection between those two? I know they look similar, but how does it connect with the ending?
There is no connection between the two. Xenosaga and Xenogears don't connect. Events in Episode III make it impossible for Xenogears to ever happen.