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value tart Feb 18, 2009 02:06 PM

It's more about stubbornness, I think. Everyone here knows that the option is there, but they'd rather beat him "legit" out of sheer "I've done this before, I can do it again" stubbornness.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Feb 18, 2009 02:10 PM

I'm surprised anyone would try Crusher spam against any Shoto, let alone an AI controlled Shin Akuma.

Chaotic Feb 18, 2009 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotobu (Post 682614)
There's a plethora of people waiting on live, and the netcode for this game is fantastic.

I totally agree with this. Even fighting someone with a horrible stability level, I could get a full match without a single bit of lag.

It's fucking amazing.

WolfDemon Feb 18, 2009 02:38 PM

I actually ended up beating him by spamming Honda's Sumo Headbutt and Super Combo, using the Hundred Hand Slap when he got too close. After around 340 Shoryukens and 6000 Hadokens, I somehow managed to bring him down. But even the friendly chirp of the Achievement Unlocked noise couldn't console me after so many sound beatings.

kensuke Feb 18, 2009 06:33 PM

Has anyone else noticed how even if you pick 'easiest' difficulty, sometimes the CPU just goes into complete ass rapage mode? I was happily playing through the game with the CPU not even blocking, and then suddenly it was using focus attacks and doing ultras on me.. I think it must be a bug, because when I start a new game, if I cycle the options to hardest and then back to easiest, I don't get this problem..

chaofan Feb 18, 2009 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kensuke (Post 682675)
Has anyone else noticed how even if you pick 'easiest' difficulty, sometimes the CPU just goes into complete ass rapage mode? I was happily playing through the game with the CPU not even blocking, and then suddenly it was using focus attacks and doing ultras on me.. I think it must be a bug, because when I start a new game, if I cycle the options to hardest and then back to easiest, I don't get this problem..

It's one of two things (maybe even both)

(1) Everyone is still trying to get used to the game mechanics and new techniques, thus some CPUs seeming frustratingly hard. If they've played it in the arcades, then it's the initial adaptation to a console controller.
(2) Capcom's inability to understand what easy means strikes again.

I'm starting to defeat the easiest and easy difficulties with no problems now, suggesting that option one is probably more accurate to you and everyone else's situation :P. Easy to grasp, difficult to master, if I should use one cliché.

Summonmaster Feb 18, 2009 09:40 PM

I'm going to guess from these complaints that the AI tends to become "psychic AI" the further you progress. It's not too bad if you're used to all the SNK fighters pulling cheap shit like that at every final boss regardless of the difficulty level. Heck it was even in MvC2 when the computer feels you are winning too much and is down to its last character.

So far I'm enjoying the new characters although overall they seem rather plain to me. El Fuerte and Abel seem very fun to play for all the mixup options, although I don't think my brain could handle actively knowing what I want to mix up in what each time on a regular basis.

Hit me up on the PS3 version whoever has it! :)

chato Feb 18, 2009 10:12 PM

Niice. SM , It's about time.. since the JUS days XD. I'll probably be around tomorrow. I'll see you around if you there.

As far as the complaints about the slow movements and the Ai, Im perfectly fine with it. The only character I think gives me a hard time is just Abel and his stupid grapples. Everyone else is fine.

Btw, Gen is the Man..and Rose is badass..

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Feb 18, 2009 10:28 PM

Anyone else having issues connecting to ranked matches, or is that just me? Maybe 1 in every 15-20 attempts gets me in. Occasionally, (maybe 1 or 2 out of those 15), it says lobby full, but otherwise just gives a generic error message of "CAN NOT PLAY".

Hotobu Feb 18, 2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OutRunner (Post 682749)
Anyone else having issues connecting to ranked matches, or is that just me? Maybe 1 in every 15-20 attempts gets me in. Occasionally, (maybe 1 or 2 out of those 15), it says lobby full, but otherwise just gives a generic error message of "CAN NOT PLAY".

Could be two things. #1 check your NAT type to make sure it's open.

#2 The game just released and is an immense success. Chances are by the time the search completes and you go to connect someone has beat you to it and the session started.

To alleviate the problem just create your own match and let people come to you.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Feb 18, 2009 11:00 PM

It's not my NAT. It's open. Everyone says this all the time. Yes, thank you. Not to be snarky or mean offense or anything but I'm not a complete idiot. :p

By the time the search completes and if I get a full room, yeah. I get "Full room" errors. "Can not join because the match is full" or something similar. No. Instead I get "CAN NOT PLAY". That's the error, verbatim.

No issues with player matches. In and out of that with no troubles at all. It's seriously JUST ranked matches. Hosting and letting people come to me takes an unholy length of time, I assume most of them can't connect to me via that mode the same way I can't connect to them.

I have no idea why it's limited to just that mode.

kenpo Feb 18, 2009 11:09 PM

if someone tries to grab you (abel, gief) just backdash, don't get predictable with it btw. As for the ai just use gief and 360 them to death or lariat.

Lukage Feb 18, 2009 11:48 PM

People are still fussing about the "street date?" Ugh.

Yeah I was confused when I got to fight Akuma and then after defeating him, not getting the character. I got my Sakura, so I'm happy.

Also fuck E. Honda. He's cheaty again and its annoying as fuck. He just punches through any of Chun Li's kicks? Kiss my ass.

Miles Feb 19, 2009 12:19 AM

lol

I've been playing through the game on very easy to unlock shit and have had zero issues beating the game without using continues. As soon as I use Sakura and get to Seth, his second round form beats the living shit outa me every freaking time. He blocks everything and uppercuts the shit outa my health. What the heck is going on with this shit? I tried at least 15 times and could only get him down to like 30% health.

Random fucking difficulty spike for no reason.

SimDaddyGT Feb 19, 2009 12:57 AM

Heh. first run-through arcade mode done with Gief on Medium. Only lost 2 rounds out of the whole run - one to Bison and ... wait. nvm. Just one round, to Bison. Seth came awfully close to beating me in the 2nd round, but I yanked out an EX 360 grab.

Frankly, I think the game is good, but I'm still lost in the past with 3rd Strike. Plus, it's kinda crazy how I go from playing a fast, strong character like Makoto to Zangief, who requires a lot of stick-spinning and can't move for shit sometimes.

Chaotic Feb 19, 2009 02:17 AM

That took me a while to realize who the hell people were referring to when they were saying Gief. (Chaotic is slow :gonk:)

This game is treating me weird... I own an arcade stick, but I seem to fight a lot better using the standard 360 controller. Not sure if that's a good thing or not. T_T

Also, I'm down to unlocking the last three characters (Akuma, Gouken, and Seth). Tried to unlock Akuma using Zangief and ended up fighting Gouken instead. Followed through with the "supposed" criteria, and didn't unlock anyone.

Anyone know what I gotta do to unlock him? I'm beginning to question whether or not the requirements to unlocking him posted on GameFAQs is right or not.

Karasu Feb 19, 2009 03:55 AM

Yea same here. I have akuma and I was going for Gouken. I did three ultra finishes, and prolly three perfects. I faced him, and beat him...but never got him. Im sad now lol.

OmagnusPrime Feb 19, 2009 05:48 AM

Perhaps we may see DLC characters after all (maybe free additions, who knows):

Quote:

Street Fighter IV producer Yoshinori Ono said characters T. Hawk and Dee Jay can be added to the fighting game if fans shout loud enough.

"The development team said, 'We want them in!'" Ono told Famitsu. "Honestly, we did the modelling up to the pre-texturing. We made the fight settings for T. Hawk in Street Fighter IV.

"If users make their voices known, this prep work is something we can revive at any time."
[ source ]

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Feb 19, 2009 05:57 AM

I was much more of a fan of the idea of NO DLC CHARACTERS FOR FUCK'S SAKE. So much for all those above-the-usual-bullshit speeches we've read.

OmagnusPrime Feb 19, 2009 06:16 AM

In fairness, he's putting the choice in the hands of the fans (so we can hardly complain if en mass we go "Yes, more characters please" and then "WTF, DLC characters, you bastards") and if they're free then you still can't complain at all. As I said to you on AIM, let's not put the angry cart before the rumour horse.

Also, whilst I still lack SFIV I do have a Mad Catz Tournament Edition Fightstick and fuck me is it nice.

Chaotic Feb 19, 2009 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime (Post 682848)
Also, whilst I still lack SFIV I do have a Mad Catz Tournament Edition Fightstick and fuck me is it nice.

Oh, damn you, OP. All I got is the clicky Hori EX2 stick. :(

Plus, I found another way to unlock Akuma on 1UP... I'll go ahead and try that later tonight.

OmagnusPrime Feb 19, 2009 09:42 AM

Got the game too now, and fuck me Seth is the cheapest cuntiest piece of shit on the planet.

Summonmaster Feb 19, 2009 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime (Post 682880)
Got the game too now, and fuck me Seth is the cheapest cuntiest piece of shit on the planet.

Not saying it's any easier, but I tend to be able to hit him more with lots of aerial attacks. I learned that the hard way when he started spamming teleporting piledrivers while I was trying charge moves with Chunny and Bison. As well, jumping attacks usually made his psychic lightning kick move whiff as well as bypassing sonic booms. The only trouble with this is that his shoryuken hits a lot of times for a chunk of damage and you are also vulnerable to being proximal shot out of his belly mid-match onwards.

KCJ506 Feb 19, 2009 01:17 PM

What I think sucks is that we have to download alternate costumes. Not to mention that they're ridiculously overpriced.

Chaotic Feb 19, 2009 01:29 PM

And just for the record, GameFAQs is a useless piece of shit. I was chatting with a friend about how to unlock Akuma and I referenced 1UP and what they said. Another friend of his jumped in and said this method worked. So for Akuma and Gokuen, here's the unlock criteria.:

How to unlock Akuma and Gokuen:

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/66/akumaoverbw5.jpg
Complete Arcade mode with every unlockable character (Dan, C. Viper, Sakura, Cammy, Gen, Fei-Long, Rose) have at least one perfect round, and never use a continue. Akuma will appear after you defeat Seth. Defeat Akuma to unlock him.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9163/goukenoverqf7.jpg
Complete Arcade mode with Akuma, never use a continue, and perform at least two Ultra finishes.


Gonna try this myself when I get home.


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