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The_Griffin Jun 26, 2006 11:02 AM

Ehh, I got myself a regular DS, actually. It was only ~90 bucks used, and it was in good condition.

I actually find the regular DS more comfortable than the DS Lite... my hands are fucking huge, so the lite is a taaaad too small for me :(

I've got Tetris DS, Mario Kart DS, MP:H (don't really like this game =\), Mario And Luigi: Partners In Time (LOVE it), and Brain Age right now.

I'm holding back on purchasing Gyukaten Saiban off of play-asia for a bit... I wanna save up a little. Besides, I need to get my car's oil changed soon. D=

I've been loving this thing so far... one of the other things I'm going to get for it eventually is NSMB, and Trauma Center. I'm considering Children of Mana and Castlevania, but I was never a gigantic fan of Castlevania and I'm unsure of how Mana is. Any thought, 'Lix?

Omnislash124 Jun 26, 2006 11:11 AM

I've played some of the other Mana games (Legend of Mana, Seiken Densetsu 3) and this new Mana game looks extremely promising. I was totally hooked on the previous ones, I hope this will be the same.

On another note, I guess I'll go with the DS Lite since my hands are relatively small. The battery life is what's pushing me. If it truly is what it claims to be, I'll be set.

Elixir Jun 26, 2006 11:54 AM

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I'm considering Children of Mana and Castlevania, but I was never a gigantic fan of Castlevania and I'm unsure of how Mana is. Any thought, 'Lix?
Well, I imported the original japanese version when it was $20 US at play-asia. I must say, it's impressive. On the DS Lite, it is beautiful. But since you don't have a DS Lite.. um, well, I was still impressed by it on the original DS. I did, at the time, import it when I had my original DS. Although at the moment, I'm sort of stuck. I've just been level grinding (which you'll get used to) Wanderer, since he's the weakest character you can choose from. His only real advantage is a higher amount of HP, and no real damage increment when he levels.

I'm definitely buying it when it's out in english, that's for sure. Hell yeah. You need to be one for dungeon crawlers or you might find it repetitive. Some of the dungeons can go on for quite awhile, and you're going to need to replay through a few of them for side-quests and item hunting.

The japanese version is surprisingly easy to understand. The only real problem is (well, lack of guides on GameFAQs for a start) the gems which you collect, because the gem translation guide available means you're going to be checking up from time to time. So yeah, I'd preferably wait for an english release, and keep the japanese release as a collector's item. Sounds fair, huh?

Oh uh... Dawn of Sorrow? Hmm, well, I picked that up and was addicted. Then again, I completed Aria of Sorrow just before buying my DS. Oh, I just remembered. Dawn of Sorrow on the DS Lite looks almost identical to on the original DS. So yeah, since you have an original DS, I'd say go for it.

If you're into flashing your DS/flash carts/SD cards and such, that's a great way of testing games before you buy. Which is perfect in my situation, because I don't like importing japanese titles without knowing too much about them. Then again, if you're getting something like this, you probably aren't going legit. My supercard sd/superkey should arrive soon. Then I can finally try out some of the more obscure titles (japanese, mostly) and the ones I'm not willing to pay for ($30 for Zoo Keeper? fuck that.) easily.

But, like all games, this doesn't have much replay value. In Dawn of Sorrow for example, there's a decent amount of modes available. But think, are you going to bother playing through the game twice, to collect souls and such? Sure, getting the Soul Eater Ring for 300k sounds interesting (which I have, and I've only noticed a slight improvement in collecting souls), and sure, collecting souls which you've missed the first time around is neat, but apart from that, that's it.

When you beat the game, it unlocks hard mode, Julius mode, sound mode, and a place-enemies-anywhere-and-beat-the-shit-out-of-them-at-your-leisure mode. Which is nice, because I like modes. I like them good. But I'm not too interested in Julius mode myself -- hard mode is no different from normal mode. All they dois decrease all of the weapons power. Which sucks.

But it's still another title I'd highly recommend. That's the trouble with DS games though, they lack replayability. The only ones which have real replayability I've found are Ouendan, Bomberman DS and Daigasso. I should be getting some more soon though, so I can't rule out a few obscure titles just yet.

Oh, and definitely get Gyakuten Saiban Best Price. I'm thoroughly enjoying it. $30 for Phoenix Wright is a steal, and you get to act all cool by having the japanese version. If Ouendan didn't exist, I'd probably consider it my favorite title.

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Originally Posted by The_Griffin
I've got Tetris DS, Mario Kart DS, MP:H (don't really like this game =\), Mario And Luigi: Partners In Time (LOVE it), and Brain Age right now.

I have an awesome idea! Send me MP:H since I don't have it. That way, you get rid of a game which you don't like, and in the process, you're making someone happy. Namely, me. It's a win-win situation right here.

BurningRanger Jun 26, 2006 12:31 PM

SO I played MP:H off a Gamestop download kiosk... and while the graphics are pretty awesome, the game sounded like I was playing a Gameboy Color. My first instinct though, was to blame this on the fact that it had to stuff 2 levels of MP:H into like 3 kb.

Can anyone confirm if the full game has like actual sound effects, or is it actually supposed to sound terrible?

Malmer Jun 26, 2006 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Omnislash124
I've played some of the other Mana games (Legend of Mana, Seiken Densetsu 3) and this new Mana game looks extremely promising. I was totally hooked on the previous ones, I hope this will be the same.

On another note, I guess I'll go with the DS Lite since my hands are relatively small. The battery life is what's pushing me. If it truly is what it claims to be, I'll be set.

Even if you get a normal DS, it's like a drug, you'll inevitable be going for the perfect one. Once you've tried it, you'll not be touching the normal one again (all large-handed people excused, sowwy).

Not convinced?

Then take THIS! And this and this, this, HADOOUUKEN!



EDIT: Also, I finally got myself a wireless router, so no more bitching firewall and the throwing of a dongle. YAY!

Omnislash124 Jun 26, 2006 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Malmer
Even if you get a normal DS, it's like a drug, you'll inevitable be going for the perfect one. Once you've tried it, you'll not be touching the normal one again (all large-handed people excused, sowwy).

Not convinced?

Then take THIS! And this and this, this, HADOOUUKEN!



EDIT: Also, I finally got myself a wireless router, so no more bitching firewall and the throwing of a dongle. YAY!

Lol, yeah, I'm set. It'll be $15.00 more expensive for the DS Lite + Mario Kart DS, but if it's what it claims to be (those shots look VERY sexy) I'll be happy. Thanks guys!

No. Hard Pass. Jun 26, 2006 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Malmer
Even if you get a normal DS, it's like a drug, you'll inevitable be going for the perfect one. Once you've tried it, you'll not be touching the normal one again (all large-handed people excused, sowwy).

Not convinced?

Then take THIS! And this and this, this, HADOOUUKEN!



EDIT: Also, I finally got myself a wireless router, so no more bitching firewall and the throwing of a dongle. YAY!


Actually Malmer, big handed people may still apply. I'm a 6'5" monstrosity myself, with large hands to boot, and I actually find this MORE comfortable than the old one. It has to do with the spacing of the buttons. I felt cramped on the old DS, whereas this one feels comfortable.

I'm posting the pic under a spoiler tag, so as not to stretch the tables.



And then one that WON'T stretch tables.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...s/IMG_0754.jpg

Sexxxxy.

The_Griffin Jun 26, 2006 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Elixir
I have an awesome idea! Send me MP:H since I don't have it. That way, you get rid of a game which you don't like, and in the process, you're making someone happy. Namely, me. It's a win-win situation right here.

Heh, I might actually consider that. =D

I still wanna give it a chance, though... the thing is that I like FPS's quite a bit, but the problem with MP:H for me is a) I find the controls a little awkward, even using the thumb stylus, and b) My hands cramp HORRIBLY after a few minutes of playing it, no matter what I do.

So yeah, I might wind up doing that eventually. The awkwardness I might be able to get over eventually, but I'm not sure about the cramping. :(

deadally Jun 26, 2006 03:39 PM

Deni, you only wanted to post that pic to proclaim your Mother 2 leetness

BTW, you rule. I fucking LOVED those stickers that came with the guide

Bubble Monkey FTW

No. Hard Pass. Jun 26, 2006 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by deadally
Deni, you only wanted to post that pic to proclaim your Mother 2 leetness

BTW, you rule. I fucking LOVED those stickers that came with the guide

Bubble Monkey FTW

I'm a huge mother fan, and I like to use the box for backing in pretty much every picture I do, for scale purposes. Because if you don't own that box, and you don't know how big it is for comparison purposes, you don't deserve to know.

Also, yes, Bubble Monkey FTW. Though I'm a Apple Kid's mouse guy, myself.

Infernal Monkey Jun 26, 2006 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Elixir
Holy shit, Infernal, is that some footrot flats I see in your ava/sig combo?

Sure is! I even scanned the cover myself and everything because the internet is LACKING Footrot Flats. >=|

Omnislash124 Jun 26, 2006 07:40 PM

Hmm....seems like the only Mario Kart DS games out are all $34.99 for a new copy and $29.99 for a used copy (at least at Gamestop). Er....Whatever...Any other games that will last a while because I don't plan on buying too many games too often. Mario Kart DS is a shoe-in, my anticipation for this game has been too much.

Rockgamer Jun 26, 2006 09:24 PM

Animal Crossing: Wild World will last you a while, as long as you stay interested in it (like Nintendogs, it's made to be played a small bit everyday). You could also get Metroid Prime: Hunters and Tetris DS, as they'll keep you busy for a while, especially with their multiplayer.

Elixir Jun 27, 2006 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Griffin
So yeah, I might wind up doing that eventually. The awkwardness I might be able to get over eventually, but I'm not sure about the cramping. :(

No, no, your hands will NEVER stop cramping, so send it to me immediately. Plus, all the game cases here are fuck ugly. That's why I usually import my stuff from japan/america since the black cases are less..

Wait. Sonic, what are you doing?

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...e/DSCF0015.jpg

Crystal white cases? Gigantic green age rating? Oh, well..

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...e/DSCF0016.jpg

OH GOD, YOU'RE FAT TOO. AND YES THIS SORT OF HURT MY HAND.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...e/DSCF0017.jpg

Sonic, you used to be cool ;_;

Sonic Rush is a great game and everything, and quite difficult in parts. But.. but these cases are a crime against humanity. With that said, I'm sure Infernal has loads of them.

deadally Jun 27, 2006 06:15 AM

Lix, I'd like to have one of THOSE cases, since I like to carry around a bunch of games in one case.

Much more convenient for trips, you see

And yes, the box is GINORMOUS (EB)

Infernal Monkey Jun 27, 2006 06:31 AM

Ahaha, I love how they went to the trouble of increasing the size of the ugly green rating for the Sonic case. THEY'RE ALMOST AS BIG AS AN XBOX. ;__;

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...tastybulky.jpg

Best part is Castlevania's instruction manual is really the only one that needs such a retarded massive case.

RABicle Jun 27, 2006 06:59 AM

Oh yeah that's Konami for you. My Lost In Blue manual is printed in 6 languages. More languages than are actually selectable in the game! Crazy! And yeah it's about 140 pages.

The other shit part of the giant white cases is suddenly, putting artwork on the spine is TOO MUCH TRUBBLE. It's particuarly mysterying against with Lost in Blue which otherwise uses the translucent case for full effect with a REVERSE cover. You get island scenery on the inside.

kat Jun 27, 2006 05:57 PM

So I'm totally ready to get a DS Lite now but would it be better just to wait? I don't have a massive amount of cash on my hands at the moment and all it would be used for is to probably play my GBA games, since yes I still have the original GBA and I just realized the other day how useless the screen really is. The only thing pulling me back is that I don't want to go through the anguish of ohmygod my screen has a dead pixel right in the middle of Mario's nose or something. I'm figuring in a couple of shipments all the bugs would be worked out but how common are bugs like dead pixels and WIFI not connecting, etc.

All the good games are coming out in Fall anyways.

FatsDomino Jun 27, 2006 06:23 PM

If you have a dead pixel then just have the machine replaced. Not a big deal. Nintendo has excellent customer service and consistantly makes sturdy products.

If you haven't purchased the DS yet than you can already look forward to an incredible amount of AAA titles available for the system already once you purchase the system. As it is there are too many good games out.

soapy Jun 27, 2006 06:27 PM

Most lcds, you can expect a dead pixel here and there... but I haven't seen any on my DS. On the PSP it's easy to see when the screen goes black, but generally it's always a white background so I haven't noticed anything... where do you guys usually notice the dead pixels? Maybe I just don't have any... either way, one or two won't bug me too much.

BurningRanger Jun 27, 2006 09:25 PM

Agreed with Acer. My biggest problem when I bought the DS Lite was "which of these fucking games am I going to get."

Infernal Monkey Jun 28, 2006 01:46 AM

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/img_ind..._lite_pink.jpg

NOBLE pink announced today, to hit Japan land next month.
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Cobalt Katze Jun 28, 2006 02:22 AM

Pink can be noble? New one for me.

Malmer Jun 28, 2006 03:43 AM

Oh yeah, noble like Princess Peach!

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Originally Posted by kat
So I'm totally ready to get a DS Lite now but would it be better just to wait? I don't have a massive amount of cash on my hands at the moment and all it would be used for is to probably play my GBA games, since yes I still have the original GBA and I just realized the other day how useless the screen really is. The only thing pulling me back is that I don't want to go through the anguish of ohmygod my screen has a dead pixel right in the middle of Mario's nose or something. I'm figuring in a couple of shipments all the bugs would be worked out but how common are bugs like dead pixels and WIFI not connecting, etc.

All the good games are coming out in Fall anyways.

1% of the people not having a problem write about it on the internet.
100% of the people having a problem complain about it on the internet of angst.

Dead/stuck pixels are actually pretty rare - you just hear of all of them. I asked the store manager at the local EB about it, and he never had a single return (old and new DS alike).

Just check pixels while you are at the store, unless those five minutes of checking are too much of a problem for you to overcome.

Wifi not connecting? Just get a router that isn't total crap.

Ofcause, if you won't be buying games for it until fall anyway, save your money...

Elixir Jun 28, 2006 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Malmer
Dead/stuck pixels are actually pretty rare - you just hear of all of them. I asked the store manager at the local EB about it, and he never had a single return (old and new DS alike).

This would be true if it was true. But it isn't, and you're wrong.

Dead pixels are quite common. Stores will either deny seeing any or mention that they've only seen a couple just to get you a sale. I think I've spotted a dead pixel on the top screen of my DS Lite, but it's at the bottom right and I can't see it very often.

It doesn't really bother me because I usually stick with 1/2 brightness setting. I'd rather have my DS Lite last longer than charging it every 5 hours due to having death-like brightness.

Besides, the colours wash out on 3 or 4. Then again, 3 and 4 is only there for when you're playing outdoors. If I somehow stuff up flashing my DS Lite when my gear arrives, I'll just use the "it doesn't turn on" excuse to return it for another one.

A great way of finding dead pixels is by turning the brightness to 4, going into pictochat, and ejecting a DS game. That way you have two magneta screens you can scan for dead pixels which are all one colour.

But I'm surprised at how little I notice this one. I didn't even see it until two weeks after purchase.


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