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Megalith May 10, 2006 04:09 PM

Raiden's feature is nothing but an act of desperation by Kojima.

Pietak May 10, 2006 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Megalith
Raiden's feature is nothing but an act of desperation by Kojima.

Every time they get weaker and weaker. For fuck's sake, get some better insults. You suck at this.

Hantei May 10, 2006 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by evergreen
EDIT: To Hantei, about the Otacon crying, it's probably him angsting out about him being responsible for the MG's again.

Bah, I shouldn't be surprised if that's the case. Seems like there'll never be an MGS where he doesn't cry. I wonder who pees their pants this time... heh.

evergreen May 10, 2006 04:18 PM

Maybe this time he finds out his dad touched him.

Rock May 10, 2006 04:20 PM

It'll probably the same as with MGS2. First episode introduces "Old" Snake and gives you all the background on the setting, get you in the game, etc. Then Snake dies/commits suicide and along comes Raiden to save the day.

Or - and this could be a nice suprise - Raiden will actually turn out to be the bad guy.

evergreen May 10, 2006 04:24 PM

If he's got nanomachines and his change is Patriot related, he might have no choice in being a 'bad guy.'

Also, I don't know how I missed it before but the Gamespot synopsis reminded me: he's a lot like Casshern. Even the new color of the suit is like Casshern's.

Hantei May 10, 2006 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock
Or - and this could be a nice suprise - Raiden will actually turn out to be the bad guy.

Haha, that would be a nice surprise. But highly unlikely. I'm willing to bet that Raiden's mission is to find Olga's child, as the conceptual sketchs hinted this.

SketchTheArtist May 10, 2006 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by evergreen
Maybe this time he finds out his dad touched him.

Wasn't that adressed in the second game?

evergreen May 10, 2006 04:26 PM

Really? Been a while; I just remember the stepmom/mom bit.

Pietak May 10, 2006 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
Wasn't that adressed in the second game?

HAHA, no!
Spoiler:
That's his step-mother, she seduced him.

SketchTheArtist May 10, 2006 04:30 PM

lol

I know, I was just kidding.

The crying bit, I'm sure it has to do with the fact that Snake has 6 months to live, even if he's in his early 50s.

evergreen May 10, 2006 04:30 PM

They're all just easy shots. Seriously though, I liked Raiden and I could never understand everyone's animosity towards him. Now everyone and their grandpapa want to play as him. Sure pulled a quick one Kojima. Kudos.

Hantei May 10, 2006 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by evergreen
Also, I don't know how I missed it before but the Gamespot synopsis reminded me: he's a lot like Casshern. Even the new color of the suit is like Casshern's.

Haha, you're right it does looks like him. Even the way his the eye pieces retract is every similar to Casshern's mouth piece.

evergreen May 10, 2006 04:39 PM

Looks like Kojima pulled a Tarantino!

WolfDemon May 10, 2006 04:39 PM

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Except Snake can't even damage them with a gun. His only option is to hide. I'll bet you'll feel different when 2 or 3 of them are relentlessly chasing you down (like the Terminator) and you can't even damage them.

It seems like the legs are the weak point, seeing as they bled a little when he shot them and once Raiden was done they looked like a side of ham. Maybe later in the game when you get stronger weapons you'll be able to at least stun them for a while to make your escape, if not destroy them completely.

Scary shit when it reached up and grabbed that ledge.

evergreen May 10, 2006 04:41 PM

Oh yeah, funny thing: did anyone notice that metalgearsolid.org crashed or whatever due to capacity problems?

eprox1 May 10, 2006 04:46 PM

Was it just me, or did the graphics seem a little...different than the trailers from last year? Don't get me wrong, they are still fucking amazing. Hell, they don't even really seem worse, just different. I don't know, it's almost like they had a more 'artistic' quality to them...

Or it could just be that the video I watched wasn't of the highest quality...

Hantei May 10, 2006 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfDemon
It seems like the legs are the weak point, seeing as they bled a little when he shot them and once Raiden was done they looked like a side of ham. Maybe later in the game when you get stronger weapons you'll be able to at least stun them for a while to make your escape, if not destroy them completely.

I think the missiles on the sides of their head is another weakness. As Raiden showed by turning the Gekko's guns toward em.

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Originally Posted by BlueBomber
Or it could just be that the video I watched wasn't of the highest quality...

I definitely think it's just the quality of the trailer. Can't wait till the high res/def trailer hits the net/magazines, as this one doesn't do the graphics justice.

Taterdemalion May 10, 2006 05:05 PM

If only the PS3's controller was as capable as the Wii's, we could be slicing down Metal Gears playing as Raiden. That would be the only instance where people would choose to play as Raiden over Snake. Unless Snake himself carried a sword.

Spatula May 10, 2006 05:13 PM

Snake isn't really a sword lover; hence how Raiden got his sword from Snake in SOL. Plus Snake with a sword just isn't....Snake.

espressivo May 10, 2006 05:21 PM

That would be funny though, seeing Snake with a sword.

chato May 10, 2006 05:21 PM

did everyone catch the 15 min trailer? its on stream right now... if anyone has it. please upload it.

evergreen May 10, 2006 05:28 PM

Tit mouse.

Freddy Krueger May 10, 2006 06:54 PM

Hmm how soon untill a HD ver you think? a HD ver of the shorter one came out the same day it premierd.

Soldier May 10, 2006 06:57 PM

That wasn't really "hi-def", but just a clearer camera shot.


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