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If you can ignore the fanfiction.net plot and lack of decent character development, pretty graphics and nostalgia can get you though at least one viewing the movie. The right subtitles can make it good for multiple viewings, especially if you're a bit jaded about it. If you can accept it for what it is -- pretty fanservice with no substance -- you'll do fine. I doubt it was trying to be any more than that. Unfortunately. It's just as well to make peace with that, turn your brain off, and be marginally content with watching pretty CGed people beat the crap out of each other for an hour and a half. |
I think since the FF7 compliation series was announced, along with the spoiler trailers, one has to at least realised that all this IS just a way to cash in by milking FF7 off using products that look pretty and has no substance. I don't care what others say, DoC would NOT make good sales if it was an original title and not part of FF7.
I enjoyed FF7AC, as it is STILL more entertaining than the dismal Spirits Within, however, the story does lack plot, depth and development. |
You should keep in mind that the original running time was only 60 minutes. It's not like they had room to insert much dialogue. What other choice did they have but to make sure all the characters got required screentime, AND do something useful? And despite the fact that it's FFVII, Square was still taking a big risk by making this movie, like they did with Spirits Within. The majority of fans want to see their favorite character in action, not sitting around and chatting all day.
Personally speaking, anyone who says AC was just mindless action is wrong. Above anything else, it gave proper closure to one character's emotional conflict that the original game failed to do. If you want more dialogue, wait for the inevitable finale (which, I've decided, should play out like FFVIII and focus more on the characters and their relationships, while the whole "saving the world" deal takes only second priority). |
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I love that part where Cid made his first appearance and said "Whiskey and handjobs for all my men!" Good stuff. |
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I've shown the parody version to two different groups of people, and Cloud's "Current mood: sad." moment seemed to get the biggest laugh both times. That and "BUREAUCRACY!!!!" The parody version has utterly spoiled me, though. So much that I can barely watch the real version any more, because it just seems so damn boring in comparison. When I watched the dub, I kept half-expecting Vincent to start pimping Dirge of Cerberus ("DIRGE."), or for the dramatic final battle to happen against a discussion of hair care products, knitting, and plans to have coffee. Far more entertaining than the REAL plot, heh. |
I'm sure this movie'll still be flamed if it approaches the more philosophical aspect of the story with very little actions and fancy motorbike sword fights. If S-E wanted deep plot, they might as well make a FF7 sequel rather than a movie.
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As for substance, I agree that it's lacking. And I for one think that outsiders to FF7 will only notice/appreciate the movie's graphics and flashy fights (that's what drew others in, like my uncle). Heh, infact that's all I ever watch it for now, and I'm thankful for those assets. Explosions and flashy fights is what makes a movie worth rewatching to me. |
The 20 minute feature was a completely different story. The story with Kadaj and co was 60 minutes.
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VINCENT: In 2006, you will reach new levels of intensity. DIRGE OF CERBERUS will rock you to your core. Cloud: Dirge of...what? Vincent: Allow me to expand your vocabulary. DIRGE: Cloud: ...a funeral hymn or lament. Vincent: CERBERUS: A three-headed hound guarding the entrance to Hades. What do you get when you combine the two? You get a DIRGE OF CERBERUS. |
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No, story would've wrecked it. Not that the original FF7 had a groundbreaking story or anything, but the game is so far removed from what Square has and does now that any advances they try to make with the characters would only go in the wrong direction, and upset the fanboys who finance this sort of thing.
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Personally I thought the movie suffered because they brought back the rest of the party. They deserved more exposure than one or two lines a person. That part felt like a sitcom reunion more than anything. :( But since I wasn't expecting much more than awesome flashy things, I'm perfectly happy. What were you expecting anyway? |
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1) Sword fights. God, I LOVE sword fights. Don't ask me why. I just do. 2) (Keeping in mind I've only seen the Japanese version)--the VA for Kadaj is the same person who does Amano Ginji from GetBackers. It was interesting hearing him as a lunatic. 3) Reno and Rude. You have to feel sorry for Rude....... 4) The motorcycles. 5) Easter eggs (and a fanfare ringtone). 6) Cloud's sword. Whoever came up with that idea has my thanks. and 7) The music! I have listend to the soundtrack at least once a day since I got it. As for the story: Spoiler:
And, yes, the brief appearances of the others--except Tifa--was disappointing. However, that may have been a plot device. To prove that although he may not see them all the time--he still has friends. I dunno. |
That sig is hilarious. Is Sephiroth dragging a squid behind him or is that supposed to be Jenova's head?
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I thought it was a squid at first, too. Then I realized that it's Jenova's head.
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No, it's a squid, but it REPRESENTS Jenova. It's a Jap thing, or maybe a-few-jap-sites thing. All I'm saying is that Sephiroth is probably morally against calamari.
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At any rate, I kinda wish they went into more about why he was feeling guilty (I reckon he feels maybe slightly guilty about the state of the world in that his actions ultimately amounted to fuck-all) and more about what geostigma was, how it was affecting people, that sort of thing. Make it the new AIDS or some shit. I think that in spite of the compilation project they have going, they really don't want to make any definite changes to the world because it worked so well the first time. That's why Tseng and Rufus are back (although the way in which Rufus came back was great) and Cloud is still distant and weak. |
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And people are a bit mistaken when they say that the Cloud in AC is no different than the Cloud from the original game. That isn't really true. In the beginning, Cloud was basically an asshole. He was arrogant and lonesome, but he was distant or guilt-ridden. He becomes this way halfway through the game, after Aerith dies and he finds out about his past. He regains some confidence by the end of the game, but is clearly full of guilt again by AC. I don't think this was forced in order to milk the story, it's just a natural progression of Cloud's character. There was never a moment in the game where Cloud lets go of his past (you can blame the ending for that one). Like I said before, the final story, whenever SE decides to end it, should focus on Cloud clearing away any problems he has left. Finally being able to settle down with Tifa and their "kids" without any regret should be the perfect way to end the series for good. |
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Also, Cloud isn't the same, but he's very similar to how he behaved in the game. They were trying to recreate some of the appeal from FF7 and so they set things up to be very similar to FF7, even bringing folks back from the dead to do it. |
Well yeah, it would've been nice if the story was at least included on the DVD or summarized (especially since it tells you where Denzel came from, and why his prescence is significant). At least "Distance" describes the reason for Cloud's mood in better detail.
Despite some similarities, I still find AC Cloud a much more extreme case than game Cloud at his worst. |
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The situation you're describing was a result of Sephiroth's tampering. I don't really count that, as those events were beyond Cloud's control. And he didn't go completely mental on his own, it was the mako poisoning and mind control that did his brain in.
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LMAO Why Cloud was guilty is pretty simple: "We let her die." He was right there, and there was nothing he could do about it. He even says that he "can't save anyone." But, if she hadn't died, then the planet couldn't have fought back, and Sephiroth would still be blocking the way.... God, Cloud is FF7's VASH.....(There had to be another way.) |
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