It's Draeni or whatever, not Eredar or whatever. Draeni DESCENDED from Eredar, the same race AS that leader, whatever his name is.

Regardless, tier 3 is going to be bad ass for my rogue.

Both Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden, servants of Sargeras, are Eredar. You can easily see the resemblance.

man.. i know lots of you have way better.. but tonight, NS cover.. and brut blade dropped - I lost by 1 point, on both items! Sometimes I fuckin hate the dkp system

Yeah, I can hate it as well but it makes you earn your loot.

And Xellos, I suppose but thier race is still Draenai.

They are the Eredar. You can go "Durr but they're called Draenei," but shut the hell up. They CALLED THEMSELVES the Draenei. Like the remaining high elves called THEMSELVES blood elves. They are still high elves. Draenei are still Eredar, just uncorrupted Eredar. So you can call them Eredar and not be wrong.

Meh I suppose, Jessy, I suppose but they changed thier name so why not call them by thier changed name, that is like calling a black guy who was born in Britain and British African when obviously an African is someone from Africa but whatever floats your boat.

That's not exactly the same. Because we're talking about race, not nationality.

Whatever, I just think calling by what they are is the right way.

To each their own.

woot! guild finally beat onya.. now if we can just do rag.. lol

Our guild is fucking amazing. We just started MC about 10 days ago and we downed Rag 2 nights ago. Of course due to this, most of the server hates us because they claim its impossible for a guild on a server thats only 6 weeks old to be able to accomplish that. So far we got all of MC, ZG, Ony twice, Azzy, Kazzak all down. We tried 2 of the green dragons (got close on one) and we tried Razorgore (got owned badly...but mostly because of people not kiting properly). We also got a shitload of backlash from other alliance players because we started the war effort. now everyone is all bitching because Linen Cloth is going for 1g. Hell, why would they bitch? Id go farm linen and make some awesome cash.

Just reactivated my account, which i havent played since February 2005. 42 Undead Rogue - Bleeding Hollow. playing passively as CoV is still fun for me (which i just hit 20 in)

That is amazing, most guilds I know take a long time to get end game going, especially on alliance side. Though that is what I heard, I can't get passed level 30 for my alliance chars... Regardless, you know what I did when I saw the prices rise? I farmed the hell out of it and got some awesome money, heh.

I am a complete asshole. =D

I just left my second guild, because the leader was never on and outside of one guy, we never really did much in terms of instances.

So the second-in-command decided to set up a new guild, and sent me a letter of invitation.

And tonight, I sent my old GM a letter saying farewell... and I also included a copy of the invitation.

Assholish? Yup. Likely to cause bad blood between my old guild and my new one? Fuck yes. Likely to cause insane amounts of drama? Uh-huh.

But that's why I did it. >=D

Wee got that ring reward from veteran gear from the cenarion circle quests. Has 1% crit/1% hit and 6 str, so that will do me for a while.

Took ages to do, but i'm happy with it. Can't even imagine the shitloads of time and money that goes in the ones that need like 21 combat badges or something stupid like that. O_o

"You rock, rock!"

That's completely awesome; drama is fun for all :D

I have a stupid question, but I feel I need to ask. Does having 51 points in prot make someone a better tank? I'm currently in a debate with people in my guild who expect MTs to be dealt in 0/0/51 spec. Because apparently 51 points in protection makes someone a better tank than someone balanced like I am (14/0/37) and there's a high possibility that loot is going to be distributed to those who are in full defensive spec before those who are "hybrids" like myself.

I don't see how 0/0/51 is very helpful especially as a warrior... /me shrugs.

Oh and that drama is bullshit there. I don't care, I hate when people do that shit and then the guild breaks up.

I just restarted a new account. My brother and I shared one, but parted ways. We flipped a coin, I lose, so I had to buy a new copy of the game and start a new account.

All of the characters are on Llane. Mine is a Human Rogue, named Yale (hay, name generator made it and I was curious). He is in his upper teens now. But I'm a seasoned player (of sorts). I'll be climbing levels quickly.

I've already told the raid leader that I refuse to respec to 0/0/51 and that's it's insane to think people in that build are better tanks. Someone even said that 0/0/51 tanks take more damage, and I looked up and down that talent calculator and can't find anything else but the 5 points that give +10 defense to all equipped items or some shit like that. I dunno. But this is some bullshit. Officer's loot/rotation is a fair way to distribute loot, but if the shit goes to the 0/0/51s first and no one else can get till they're geared (which there are currently 6 people in that build and probably every warrior that wants Might will go that build) and it's just complete bullshit. I joined this guild because I was led to believe everything was going to be civilized. At first it was, then shit started going downhill.

If you're a warrior, 0/0/51 is stupid. You want 5 points in Tactical Mastery. And the way a 0/0/51 would take more damage is because to get 5 in Tactical Mastery, you might put 5 into Parry so you have +5% to parry, thus reducing overall DPS done to you.

Ignore them, period. You're gimping yourself unnecessarily by specing 0/0/51.

Imp. HS is good, as it's a high-aggro move that does damage, and less rage for that move is a GOOD THING. Deflection is incredibly nice for tanking, and TM is vital for ANY warrior, especially one who stance-dances (which any good warrior should do, even if they're tanking; OP anybody?).

So... yeah. Prot is good for tanking, but going full prot is just gimping yourself in anything but MT'ing. You can do just as good with your current spec as you can with 51 points in Prot.

A talent dump in any tree for any class is the sign of a true retard.

Quoted for truth =o

Every tree has its useless talents. The best build is always a medley of everything.

Anyone who says you need 51 in protection to be a good tank is a fucking retard. This involves wasting talent points on the crappiest abilities in protection, and you'll miss out some vital ones in other trees.

31 is more then enough, although personally i use 38 for one hand weapon spec and imp taunt.

If you go 51 you waste your points on...imp disarm? imp shield bash? imp revenge and imp shield block (3 points instead of 1) wow! they're all useless in 40 man raids.

Go 8/5/38 or 13/0/38. Imp heroic strike, deflection, malice/tactical mastery.

And no, you don't need tactical mastery to be a good tank, sorry, I don't have it and I manage just fine. I won't say I don't miss it, but it's hardly a must, i mean honestly as a MT you hardly ever switch out of defensive. The only time I switch out of defensive is to use berserker rage, and that doesn't need any rage, so...

By the by, are the servers down? o__O There's no chatter about it on Gamefags, which is where I check first if I have connectivity issues.

Just when I had a day off from work, too... ;__; They're down I s'pose. Off to run errands then...