This is me acknowledging that I fucked up

And this is you still pouting about it

Nah, nigga. I'm just pointing it out.

I'd much rather die than have another 6 week fight. Far more interesting.

on the upside as a warforged you are nearly impossible to kill anyway barring coup de grace dickery

Yeah I try to make sure everybody has some kind of ranged option so you can do something against flying enemies other than stick your thumb up your ass. Gheth doesn't have a bow because he already has Lance Of Faith. :shrug:

Yeah, basically the only reason I went with the morningstar back there is because it's ranged 10/20 instead of 5 and I didn't want a fire sandwich :(

HOUSERULE UPDATE

Player's Handbook, pg. 286

After you spend an action point, you must take a short rest before you can spend another.

This rule no longer applies because it is bullshit.

I fully support this house rule! :)

A pity I have only one action point. Maybe next time.

Additional Spam:
Hi Pang.

Is it possible that the minions are so tired from running, that Garrmondo can just reach across and close the door on them? :D

expanded map as requested by Zerg over AIM:

http://www.saxypunch.com/missile/emancipation08B.png

If only you guys had a ballista or something that could pierce multiple enemies this fight would be over in minutes.

Wizards of the Coast actually did give archer rangers attacks that pierce multiple enemies, as a Christmas gift :)

If Glock is still alive by then, I think there's a class act for bards coming his way pretty soon...

Thanks, Pang

Why not just do a second wind now, Garr, and use up that minor to draw either a heal or antivenim potion from your pack? At least you'll get extra defense. I've a feeling you'll need it...

Oh well. Maybe next time.

P.S. If you spend your action point at the next turn, a saving throw of 6+ should suffice against poison. What with all the nice stacks.

While we're talking about stacking up stuff, can I clear up how many effects stack? For example, Gordok's attack dazes enemies, granting us combat advantage. Gheth's spiritual weapon grants combat advantage too. Plus the +1 bonus from Glock's Song of Courage...

Combat advantage doesn't stack with itself, so no additional advantage is gained from Weaponing an already-dazed target. Of course, the dazes will probably expire before the weapon does.

How about cover, Pang? Let's say I'm shooting an enemy who is hiding behind allies, AND is also hugging a wall, such that he would still have cover even if there's no enemy in front of him...?

Cover doesn't stack either; it just upgrades to Superior Cover if three or more of the "imaginary lines" are obstructed. (PHB pg. 280)

http://www.saxypunch.com/missile/cover01.png

Dmitri the peasant wants to fire on this hobgoblin with his sling. Dmitri's player draws an imaginary line from a corner of his space to each of the four corners of the hobgoblin's space. One or two of the lines are obstructed; the hobgoblin has cover against Dmitri's sling attack.

http://www.saxypunch.com/missile/cover02.png

An alternate-universe Dmitri is fighting a hobgoblin and a skeleton at the same time. In this case, due to the skeleton 3 of Dmitri's imaginary lines are obstructed. The hobgoblin has superior cover against Dmitri's sling attack.

http://www.saxypunch.com/missile/cover03.png

Dmitri from Universe A repositions. Despite the lack of skeleton, the hobgoblin still has superior cover because at least 3 of the imaginary lines are obstructed.

http://www.saxypunch.com/missile/cover06.png

The hobgoblin calls to Maglubiyet for aid, and a big-ass statue falls out of the sky, blocking Dmitri's line of sight. However, despite the hobgoblin deriving cover from two sources, he only benefits from ordinary cover; only two of the imaginary lines are blocked.

http://www.saxypunch.com/missile/cover05.png

Suppose Maglubiyet drops the statue in a slighter better position. Now the hobgoblin is getting two sources of cover, and gains superior cover thereby — three of Dmitri's imaginary lines are obstructed.

CONSIDER YOURSELF EDUCATED.

Thank you, Professor Pang. That was quite a comprehensive treatise on cover. It will prove most useful if and when I put my plans* into motion. :)

Two questions though:

1. http://www.saxypunch.com/missile/cover03.png
It seems to me that the imaginary lines pass through the 5:30 corner of the wall just fine. Does the little edge obstruct the lines that connect to the 1:30 and 7:30 corners of the target square?

2. The rules say there is superior cover if "three or more" lines are obstructed. I'm curious as to why the designers find it necessary to add "or more" -- isn't it the case that you can't attack the enemy at all if you can't draw a single unobstructed imaginary line from one of your corners to one of his?

* Plans to do a dungeon delve, that is. I'm getting very curious into seeing how it's like to "play" on the other side, for once.

It certainly looks like the lines clip through the corner of the wall to me. Arguably it's a small obstruction which Dmitri could easily aim past given time, but you have to keep in mind that a combat round lasts about 6 seconds. There's not a lot of time for fine adjustments to one's aim, and so even the smallest obstruction represents a chance for things to go awry.

Admittedly it's an inexact science, since it depends heavily on who's drawing the lines and everyone's collective perceptions. Even this simplified example is imperfect since the line ends aren't snapped 100% on the corners.

Wow, another hot set of dice for Pang. Man, I want in on Framarth's crit luck... Hopefully Gordy's Second Chance will result in less damage and consciousness. It'd be freakish if Pang crits off him again (though I wouldn't be surprised if he gets high damage, with the way the stars are aligned)!

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Moving and attacking while dazed... that gnoll is totally cheating :mad:

EDIT: Mobile melee. Fft fft. Never mind :( (The Secret Cow Level thread is actually fourth on Google results for "mobile melee" gnoll)...

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I'd like to ask about the terrain in the room Cal is in. Are those dividing walls inside the room? Or just decorative fluff of some sort?

Seeing as how the dice roller has decided it might be time for a new player soon, has Zeph elaborated any on his choice of "Some dude again"? I think if not we should have a community vote on it.

I'd favour a Bullywug Psion, the group as stands is crying out for a psychic frog.

http://www.freewebs.com/ibored12398/hypnotoad5uf.gif

I'm kinda hoping the next guy would play a defender class, as we got more than enough leaders/controllers right now. (Especially if Garrmondo bites the dust here.)

But it looks like it'll have to wait until wvlfpvp .__.

Oh Zerg, you and your playing the game sensibly.

As a casual observer, seeing you guys muddle about deciding what the best course of action is in any given situation I'd suggest that a leader is exactly what you're lacking at the moment. Garrmondo has a shield and Glock is made of metal, what more defense could you possibly ask for?

He may be made of metal, but Glock's almost as squishy as I am (and with less fortitude, go figure) :tpg:

I'm not asking for more defense though. Cal just wants a tank with tons and tons of HP to go out there and be his meatshield, so he can shoot happily with impunity. Surely Bob can relate? :D