I think you may be jumping the gun in condemning them. The more I think about it, the more likely my hypothesis seems plausible.

Would you rather Shinsen come out with 5 revisions of some episodes, because they find out, after watching the later episodes, that the words they decided to use in them were inadequate/improper translations, and that better, less confusing phrasing could be used instead?

I'm torn between my lust for the rest of the series as soon as possible, and my desire for coherent and complete concepts and plotlines. I will by no means, however, say that Shinsen has gone to the shitter.

Of course, maybe I'm just being overly optimistic again, and hoping for the best possible explanation. :)

It's not about translation. Just download episode 15 and watch it. Then put your self in place of a person that have to place all subs on the screen so anyone will have time to read then AND understand.

Shinses stuff is on summer holidays that's why other projects are on and EP is stopped till they get back. Besides as I was saying in episode 15 there is one thing (or more) that connect it with episode 23.

Yeah, because if you don't know what they are talking about it 15 you'll be like who are those ships in teh backround?

Spoiler about episode 15 & 23 in one:

For those who would like to see Vincent, Re-l and Pino on paper here are good news.

Ergo Proxy: Centzon Hitchers and Undertaker (manga)
(Release date: 18.08.2006 - 3 Days left)

Not much news about it directly as long as someone can translate info from official site:

It's possible that Manga will take of from the moment that 23 episode ended.

Holy crap... a sub of episode 15 by [Pino-no-Usagi]​! (rabbit pino WTF?)

http://pino-no-usagi.edwardk.info/%5...5D.avi.torrent

Lets see if its any good. But still, finally a release!

Surely you mean "rabbit pino FTW!", seeing how cute pino is in that rabbit suit.

Anyway, the subs are pretty good. I had no problem understanding what everything was about. Of course it's a weird episode, but that's to be expected with Ergo Proxy.

Also Vincent isn't too good at game shows. Those questions at the beginning were easy.

.. wow.

I'm guessing [Pino-no-Usagi]​ is the new Anime-Jiyuu, the op/end graphics are identical, as is the font used.

Ugh, that was one confusing episode.

But one of the most important on our journey for understanding or true face of Proxy. You'll see for your self =D

http://www.flaresoft.net/BeforeAfter.jpg
ARGH, typesetting. :(

EDIT:
"Was a great time. Enjoy Shinsen's or Ani-Kraze's Ergo Proxy version." That's what #Anime-Jiyuu topic say. Think that few of then joined forces with Pino-no-Usagi.

I thought they did a very good job on the subs I'm impressed, I wasn't one too care much about the notes anyway.

OK. [Pino-no-Usagi] is the same as [Anime-Jiyuu] was but without one member. They are working on Ergo Proxy now only. Today they released another episode. You can get it here: [Pino-no-Usagi] Ergo Proxy 16 [48BFBDBD].avi. Shame that they don't make HD version like Shinsen or Anime-K. Better this then nothing =).

Did that second OST ever see its way out? I'm anticipating some more music from this series :).

August 25th

• Ergo Proxy OST2

It's from Nipponsei "Future" list. So it will be here soon :)

As much as I love the concept of this Anime and still watch it, it has gotten very strange. That whole game show episode was funny, but it's starting to make me wonder if either Vincent and Real are on drugs or in Wonderland.

So what, are Pino-no-Usagi any good then? I'm seriously considering just downloading from them for episodes 15 onwards. Are their subs for episode 15 fairly decent?

Shinsen aren't on holiday anymore, they're still putting out Blood+ and have even started doing Night Head Genesis and FLAG. Heck, they've started doing Demonbane as well. They sure aren't in any hurry to get back to work on Ergo Proxy it seems....

:(

I've watched all three episodes by Pino-no-Usagi so far, and I can say they're fairly good. At least they seemed good to me. Why don't you just, you know, actually download one and see for yourself?

okay, so I just saw episode 17 but...

A lot about Raul and Pino. Small spoiler about meditatio 17.
Ergo Proxy Original Soundtrack opus 02 released!! Someone made a double torrent with both OST's on board in ISO format. Have fun!
[EAC]Ergo Proxy OST 01+02(ape+cue)

Including full version of Kiri!! 4:18!!

^youve got to be kidding me.....YES!!!!!!! :)

So who wants to upload mp3 rips of the second OST to rapidshare, or sendspace, or whatever? Eh?

I'm definitely waiting for an mp3 release as well.

the torrent was pretty fast...

Finally. Now all I need is the Air Gear OST.

Here is a much smaller download size version from Nipponsei. http://tracker.minglong.org/torrents...02.zip.torrent

its pretty sweet, and now i know the REAL lyrics :)

episode 15..

Episode 15 was very weird indeed. Reminded me of episode 11.

Just wathced 16 and it is the funniest episode of the series so far. Pino trying on Real's makeup and Real kicking Vince in the ass.

I couldn't wait got Nippon to release it so I got APE one first :) Thanks for the link to.