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Technophile Mar 26, 2006 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by T1249NTSCJ
Here is some interesting news...Seems more is left to be done.

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/03/24/gdc2006_ps3_no_hdmi/

Wait, wait, wait. So, all those people buying HD TVs now in preperation for the PS3 are gonna be screwed over cause their TVs' HDMI inputs are incompatible with PS3's HDMI output? If that's the case, I can't wait to see the angry cosumers. I get at least 5 people a day telling me they're getting an HD tv just for the PS3. I really, really like how Sony's thinking about the future and making sure the PS3 won't be obsolete anytime soon but it's almost as if it's too good and advanced for the current standards.


Oh and I want that GIANT panasonic touch screen TV! ;__;

Metal Sphere Mar 26, 2006 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Technophile
Wait, wait, wait. So, all those people buying HD TVs now in preperation for the PS3 are gonna be screwed over cause their TVs' HDMI inputs are incompatible with PS3's HDMI output? If that's the case, I can't wait to see the angry cosumers. I get at least 5 people a day telling me they're getting an HD tv just for the PS3. I really, really like how Sony's thinking about the future and making sure the PS3 won't be obsolete anytime soon but it's almost as if it's too good and advanced for the current standards.


Oh and I want that GIANT panasonic touch screen TV! ;__;

Along with the Region-free announcement and the HDD bit, it was revealed that the PS3 will have the HDMI 1.3 revision which is backwards compatible with older versions. The only difference in this one being the ability to carry DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD sound.

Mercury Mar 26, 2006 05:18 PM

That's a nice TV you got there MetheGelfling. :cool:

You know 1080p TVs (or any 1080p large display devices) are not super cheap today, that's for sure, but there are getting cheaper and cheaper every month. Look at that one for example: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1138084694260

IMO, for $2.5K, that's pretty cheap, and for that price it even accepts a 1080p signal on four (4) inputs (1x HDMI, 2x DVI, 1x VGA). Good stuff.

Man, you are an American, take advantage! ;)

RacinReaver Mar 26, 2006 05:21 PM

You people would seriously pay over $2000 for a TV?

El Ray Fernando Mar 26, 2006 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver
You people would seriously pay over $2000 for a TV?

Why not?

If you want excellent picture quality, HD capabilities, and an overly large screen like me then it makes sense.

Megalith Mar 26, 2006 05:25 PM

$2000 is definitely an absurd amount of money.

Mercury Mar 26, 2006 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver
You people would seriously pay over $2000 for a TV?

For a TV? Nah. For a super large computer monitor that would serve also as a large gaming, movie and TV screen? Of course, and if you're talking about Canadian dollars, well it would be more.

It depends on your priorities and your situation I guess, I would have never bought a $2K monitor when I was a student for example. Also, one should not get in debt for buying a TV, and parents should not allow their kids to buy deluxe stuff like that while letting them take advantage of free-everything at home...

And imagine how PS3 RPGs will have a cinematic feel with a large screen like that; a projector would be more effective though :)

EDIT: About Megalith: that guy is amazing; he never comes out of character, never!

SouthJag Mar 26, 2006 07:42 PM

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/pro...=UTF8&n=172282 That monitor's not bad. Whoever posted the link earlier gets the credit, but it looks like it'd do the job pretty well.

Now that I've seen it though, I'm actually considering buying it. How would this work with the PS3?

LivingDreams Mar 26, 2006 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver
You people would seriously pay over $2000 for a TV?

I would for a Plasma TV.

Kaiten Mar 27, 2006 12:34 AM

I'd pay only that much money on a high quality LCD computer monitor. Most of the LCDs look better than the LCD TVs and plasmas I've seen. Most likely it'd run the vide through a ATI All in Wonder (for S-Video or Composite), or connect driectly to the monitor with HDMI. Plus I like watching movies on my monitor much more anyways.
Truth be told though, my current S-Video setup for my TV works perfectly for me. Good detail and great colors. The fact that DVDs don't look blocky (like they do on a LCD) makes it even better.

Meth Mar 27, 2006 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercury
That's a nice TV you got there MetheGelfling. :cool:

Thanks man.

www.sega.co.jp, most LCD don't have the contrast ratio seen in a plasma. And you're watching movies using s-video? geeze, your poor eyes. you need to some to my house. see how i roll.

Single Elbow Mar 27, 2006 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LivingDreams
I would for a Plasma TV.

I'm not willing to spend $2,000 for a TV that has a debated lifespan of about 5 hours and overheats quickly.

When I usually play, I play for like 7 hours if I really like the game. Sure, picture is nice but I'll do for the short-end unless that $2,000 will last long.

Meth Mar 27, 2006 02:14 PM

You don't know anything Terminus. Plasma own's your nuts and you're just sad cause you're broke.

"The lifetime of the latest generation of PDPs is estimated at 60,000 hours to half life when displaying video. Half life is the point where the picture has degraded to half of its original brightness, which is considered the end of the functional life of the display. So if you use it at an average of 2-1/2 hours a day, the PDP will last approximately 65 years."

so even at your 7 hours a day (what a nerd... you really should get out of the basement sometimes) that's still 23 years of playing time before your tv is spent. I'd hope that in 23 years you might be able so aquire another 2k to buy a new tv.

Spatula Mar 27, 2006 02:22 PM

For TV sake, here's a site which breaks down between LCD and Plasma.

Here's the Cost Factor found at the last page, of the site:

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The Cost Factor: How Much Do I Spend?
How much do you have? Seriously, though, budget and intended use will determine the direction you take in what technology you choose. Those with the strictest budgets will want to break into HDTV via LCD rear-projection or CRT rear projection. At this price range ($1500 - $2000) CRT rear projection will most likely be the better performer, but at the cost of weight and power consumption.

If you are desperate for flat panel, it’s going to be a question of size. LCDs cost more than Plasma TVs at equal sizes. The reason for this is production yields and undersupply. There is currently a condition of undersupply for many sizes of LCD displays due to the number of manufacturing plants available and the current configuration of those plants. Couple this with lower yields on larger display sizes due to burned out pixels and quality control, and you have a demand situation which forces LCD prices up for larger displays. A fair estimate would be that above 30” an LCD TV costs at least 30-40% more than a comparable Plasma display. If you want the benefits of LCD you will have to pay for it – and we thought Plasma was expensive!

If you are made of money and want the biggest flat panel around, Samsung and LG have been battling it out for years, but Samsung has won largest in both Plasma and LCD this year. They unveiled a 57” LCD TV and an 80” Plasma screen, both are top in their category and are priced at… well, more than you want to know.

So, as always, the choice is up to you. Spend your money wisely, and keep your eyes peeled for the new technologies as they break into the marketplace. Competition is always good and should do well to make all the technologies strive for better performance and lower costs to the consumer.



Soldier Mar 27, 2006 03:13 PM

http://ps3.qj.net/uploads/articles_m..._gr.image2.jpg

Here, there be Dragons.

Makes me wish this was a next-gen Drakengard.

Kimchi Mar 27, 2006 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Spatula
For TV sake, here's a site which breaks down between LCD and Plasma.

Here's the Cost Factor found at the last page, of the site:

About... 57' LCD... LG made 100' one I already posted the link from previous Here

And yea Samsung and LG makes BEST tv, sony and other companies makes nothing but piece of shit and expects you to pay for it.

Spatula Mar 27, 2006 03:58 PM

I've been very impressed with my Samsung LCD 17" monitor I got 2 xmas ago. It's not failed me yet, and quite affordable.

Technophile Mar 27, 2006 06:07 PM

Yeah Samsung LCDs are pretty kick ass. I'm personally gonna wait it out when it comes to HDTVs. Don't get me wrong, I think they look spectacular, but I just don't think the technology's peaked yet and the way HD channels and movies are offered is still far from streamlined. The TVs are slowly but surely getting cheaper and better. Also, there are still a handfull of other HDTV technologies in the works that are suppose to blow plasmas and LCDs outta the water both in terms visuals, longevity, and price-point.

I'm especially curious to see what Sony's gonna unleash since they stopped making plasmas partly to work on a new type of high-def TV. I think the PS3's lifespan will be long enough to warrant some waiting.

Oh and anyone else think that Sony might be pushing PS3's price way up in the air with the hype now so that they can actually launch with a semi-acceptable pricepoint like $350 and make it seem cheaper to us in comparison to all the speculation?


Oh and speaking of Sony TVs, it's funny how lots of people who like Samsung's loath Sony's even thoguh Samsung creates a lot of the inner parts and workings for Sony's TVs.

Megalith Mar 27, 2006 06:16 PM

Why don't you nubs just get a CRT.

The weight is only an issue if you have to carry it to the 2nd floor and you're Asian.

quazi Mar 27, 2006 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Megalith
Why don't you nubs just get a CRT.

The weight is only an issue if you have to carry it to the 2nd floor and you're Asian.

Or if you're in college and have to worry about transporting it home several times a year.

Meth Mar 27, 2006 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Technophile
I'm especially curious to see what Sony's gonna unleash since they stopped making plasmas partly to work on a new type of high-def TV. I think the PS3's lifespan will be long enough to warrant some waiting.


My guess is that it'll be something along the lines of the Canon and Toshiba SED. SED will probably become the next standard in display technology once the price is right. SED stands for Surface-Conduction Electron-Emitter Display and there's a lovely wikipedia article on the subject.

Megalith Mar 27, 2006 06:19 PM

So just buy two CRTs.

They ain't even expensive.

Spatula Mar 27, 2006 06:25 PM

I can't say much for Sony products since I think the only thing Sony I have are some CD-Rs and of course my Playstation 2. Most of the other electronics in my house are Panasonic. I have LOTS of Panasonic stuff (lol Microwave).

Megalith Mar 27, 2006 06:31 PM

I would take Sony over Samsung any day of the week.

Samsung products have awful power supplies.

Kimchi Mar 27, 2006 06:38 PM

Sony products sucks period. (consoles are fine.) Sony makes shittiest tvs, dvd players, everything but consoles. Korea is pretty ahead of tech comparing Japan.Here if you bother translating.


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