probably ...

anyway on another note apparently the heavenly sword demo is suppose to come out july 26 in europe. Some say that US might get it this week.

I can't wait to try this game!

Yeah, I REALLY want to try out Heavenly Sword. I was actually expecting the demo to be released last week during E3 along with Lair, but oh well.

I want to get my hands on the Lair demo as well, because I'm not really sure what to expect of this game. I have heard so many different things about it, both good and bad :/.

well wait wait wait what do you mean now

That the open beta is a rumor in general or that it's a rumor whether it's real open beta, i.e. unlimited beta users?

The Lair trailer was so awesome, so much better than any MGS4 or COD4 or whatever stupid hypeshit game trailer so far.

Wait a second... lair is actually going to turn out to be a good game? With the "price drop" and upcoming games that I actually want to play, I'm considering buying a 60G PS3.

When's the first big RPG going to be released?

Well, Disgaea 3 was just announced. I don't know if that's considered the first 'big' RPG though. I personally love most of the Nippon Ichi games, but I wouldn't consider them a Final Fantasy in terms of 'big'.

Also holy hell. LOCO ROCO FOR PS3. WITH TILT CONTROLS. Why are the PSN games pretty much the coolest thing on PS3 right now.

Something else I just read, Katamari Damacy Creator Delivers New PS3 Game. While it sucks that Katamari is remaining a 360 exclusive, at the same time I would almost want a brand new innovative game over something I have played 3 different times already :\. BUT HAY. THAT'S JUST ME.

Jesus that's a lot of PS3 news for me in one day.

I can testify Lair is indeed going to be fantastic. At least for flight sections.

I've no comment on the land battles myself. They were pretty shitty in the very early builds I played, and I didn't get to try them in the newest code.

I've been pretty uncomfortable with the tilt sensor, but Lair felt like the sensor was designed specifically for it. It simply made sense. Dragon flight felt so wonderfully natural I almost pray there will be a free flight mode in the game that will let you just chill out and cruise around on your dragon, away from the overblown drama and epic of the storyline.

The scale was deliciously massive in the latest code, though.

http://www.ps3blogi.fi/images/ps3_227_1182377527.jpg

Great news and things are looking up for us, but somehow I don't think Katamari can stay 360-exclusive for long. With PS3 sales and game releases looking up as it is, they'll regret their decision sooner or later.

Why?

Katamari is a huge hit in Japan, and the fanbase it has here are mostly Sony fanboys, I would think. Thats two regions in which its biggest fans won't own a 360. So unless its incredible and changes the face of Katamari, it probably won't sell on 360. I doubt those Japanese would buy a 360 just to play Katamari, but they've done weirder things, so who knows.

OMG locoroco for ps3!! that is a must buy for me XD

as for the open beta I,m not so sure anymore :\ I think there was no official announcement (yet) that there will be a open beta in July, so that's why I said that the open beta is a rumor, but I'm not discarding that we might get it someday...

Anybody remember White Knight Story? This game completely fell off my radar. Apparently they have a demonstration of the game up, and they're going to have a playable demo for TGS. Via IGN, this little snippet sounded pretty cool -
1,000 different NPC characters? Color me impressed. Here's hoping for a demo in the near future...

Depends on what kind of RPGs you like, dude.

For instance, Oblivion is already out, but yeah, as for Japanese RPGs, you might want to wait for FFXIII.

Till 2009, lol

Wow, I completly forgot White Knight story, hope to see some nice videos of it when TGS comes. That game looked hot.

And more Loco Roco! I love those cute buggers.

Though I doubt I'll be playing them till next year, but its nice that theres gonna be a new installment despite sales slumping in Japan.

Well umm he was asking for "big" RPGs. Sure, I could have told him to get Marvel: Ultimate Alliance or hey what about White Knight Story, I mean look, this guy is holding a sword in his hands how awesome is that.

well there's always enchanted arms but I'm not sure if it's worth the purchase, but I heard EBgames is selling it for 20$ now so maybe for that price...

yeah Oblivion is pretty much the BIGGEST RPG to come in terms of size and greatness. Should check it out 0_o

Just get a 360, 5 billion games coming out this fall. Along with three MASSIVE RPGS.

Sorry, your 360 will be broken until then.

Just kidding :tpg:

Umm, let's keep things like 'just get a 360' out of this thread, yes?

Stop calling Oblivion an RPG already. Just because it has swords and armor doesn't make it one.

It's interesting to see J-RPGs are largely missing from all next-gen consoles because of partly the smallish user-base for both 360 and PS3 in japan, and probably because most J-RPGs have a lineage of very old and "out-dated" mechanics everyone's trying their best to get rid of right now, it seems. If people don't want 2D games anymore, why should they want to stand in a row waiting for a turn?

Uhh, what makes a game an RPG? I haven't played Oblivion, but everyone calls it RPG, and if it's anything like Morrowind, then I'm pretty sure it is an RPG. What do you call it, first person bow-shooter?

I think Oblivion is a tactical espionage action game.

Then again, Qwarky, I have to devastatingly disagree with your point of view concerning your observation that "J-RPGs" are missing from all next-gen consoles because of partly the smallish user-base for both 360 and PS3 in japan because as far as I am informed, the typical "J-RPGs" like Final Fantasy are not only popular in Japan (I mean, of course they are, why should those Jappos play homosexual RPGs like Oblivion or Neverwinter Nights), but also outside of Japan, especially in the US and A and in Europe, too (!)

Or it could be people just aren't looking. Fifteen jRPGs are in the works for the PS3 according to this: http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2007/1202.html.

On top of that Megazone 23, Tear of Tiara, and the Sega Sakura Taisen teams new game have recently been announced. Now how many of these making it stateside is a different matter but they are being made. I think it is more of an issue of a lot of these developers are just now coming down off of PS2 development projects to start new PS3 projects. Of mentioned I know 4 or 5 of those games are 2D sprite based games.

Notice how the article doesn't actually list the 15 titles, since they don't know them, and neither does the general public. Hence my use of words, largely missing. Aka no one in RPG Forums is interested in buying the console just yet (since any other type of quality game seems irrelevant).


Mush, I couldn't understand half of what you were trying to say, but it sounded like you were saying PS3 doesn't have a small user base and the reason is.. that.. Final Fantasy is popular.. everywhere? I think?

I was saying I haven't heard of that many JRPGs being developed right now for the PS3 (nor 360) and I can only assume it's partly due to not that many people owning the console just yet. In Japan, at least.

A column at an RPG fan site saying they heard someone tell them that some magazine might have said that so and so many titles might be in development isn't quite the same thing.

And you'll notice FFXI and beyond has been doing their best to step away from the JRPG traditions.

No it doesn't list all 15 titles, but it does specifically mention 11 of those 15 with direct confirmations (not rumors) from each company. Plus the latest three announced also have specifics.

And no there have been companies like NIS, GUST and Takuyo that have purposely held on to the jRPG traditions and all of their games have been selling well.

Have they released said well-selling games on the PS3? No? Right. In development.

Let's see how the HD crowd will like them. They won't have the same audience.

Yes I know that, but I was trying to say that this way of thinking doesn't really make any sense at all because it's not like Japanese RPGs are only successful in Japan. I am not really well informed about how many people in Japan already have a PS3, but the game developers shouldn't really look at the Japanese market when they produce games, I guess