SCEA mentioned that any statements by SCEE about the removal of 60GB PS3s from the US market are false and should not be listened to. They still intend to produce 60GB models.

However like stated before, Kaz said that they are going to stop 60GB production.

It seems like no one at Sony really knows what is going on.

FU Q how come europe gets a starter pack =(

SCEE is not as retarded as SCEA?

Probably because Sony is reluctant to "lower" the price, and because WE had to pay 1.5 times the price of a US PS3 for an inferior product. Emulated backwards compatibility is the single worst idea ever.

Name a company that's not retarted. All three have their fucktards that need to committ suicide.

I was hoping to get the 60gig PS3 this holiday season (from my parents) because of the price drop. I don't even know if it'll last that long, considering people would want to buy it now while there's still a lot to go through. I'd much rather have the Europe value pack than the 80gig one if the price is still $600. :(

We already had to foot the bill for memory cards, which should have come with the system. Thankfully, with next-gen that is now a thing of the past. I mean, PS2 memory cards retailed for $24.99, so if you play a decent amount of games you could easily have spent a hundred bucks on just memory cards in past generations of consoles. In a way, that lowers the price of the next-gen consoles a bit in my mind, knowing that I won't have to put up with memory card purchases or 3rd-party cards corrupting data. :rolleyes:

That wouldn't work here... politicians would bitch like always... especially since it's GTA. The games coming this fall won't lead me to pick up a PS3. Maybe in 2 or 3 years I'll get one... and thats a big maybe.

And hearing about how their price drop is just to phase out a 60GB model to introduce another model at the same ridiculous $600 price tag just annoys me at the moment.

If there is a game thats gonna tip in the PS3's favor, is gonna be MGS4, which wont be out till NEXT year.

This year? Only Heavenly Sword actually looks awesome. I have yet to see anything else that would become the "Gears of War" for the PS3.

But can one or two games make a big difference?

It's not just one or two games. In addition to Heavenly Sword, there are solid exclusive titles like Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Warhawk, Lair, Ratchet & Clank, LittleBigPlanet (which I personally think will be a major system-seller for people on the fence), Folklore, Tekken 6, Home, plus multiplatform games like Stranglehold (PS3 gets exclusive collector's edition with high-definition version of Hard Boiled), Mercenaries 2, Haze (timed exclusive), Guitar Hero 3, Devil May Cry 4, Rock Band, Call of Duty 4, Unreal Tournament 3 (timed console version exclusive), Burnout Paradise, Assassin's Creed, and of course Grand Theft Auto IV.

So, there will be a shitload of games for a PS3 owner to play at the end of this year, and more exclusive blockbusters to look forward to in 2008 (Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid). Yes, the non-exclusives can be had on the 360 as well, but there might be some people (like me) who prefer PS3 because it doesn't have an issue of 'when will it break down?' While PS3 has been very weak so far, it still has sold about 3.5 million units -- and that's with virtually no games. Unless Sony really keeps fucking up with their price cuts and whatnot, I think it will do well in autumn/winter. They definitely won't dominate the market like they did with PS2, but PS3 will become much stronger competition for the 360 than it's been so far.

Hey guys did you know: The Ratchet & Clank Future TOD trailer is fucking awesome.

Did you also know: The Simpsons game must be a game for absolute retards, as far as I can see it from the "Sizzle Video". I mean, basically, you're running around and exploding in crowded areas, this is like a training game for suicide bombers.

well if they're going to keep calling it "next gen gaming" I expect games that couldn't possibly be done on old hardware with less graphical detail... in other words I want fully destructable environments and uh being able to see footprints in the dirt to tell where the enemy was or is :P

Also I expect to see all NPCs have as much lines as they do in Shenmue... and I expect to be able to ask them multiple questions. Stop giving us games that could be done on GC, PS2 or Xbox with fancier graphics. :)

You won't be putting up with memory card purchases, but you're still paying for that overpriced HD.

Hell, they could even preload the drives with some fairly basic games or maybe like a Best of Sony collection with some classic PSX games loaded on it (preload FF7 on it and you'd get 200000000000 sales on the first day).

They wouldn't do that unless they were preloading games that they didn't have to pay any licensing fees for. That's not a bad idea though; it would definitely make me not feel as irritated at paying three to five dollars a gig for a hard drive when under normal, non-console circumstances, I could get a much larger hard drive for something like 50 to 60 cents a gig. It would have to be a lot of decent games preloaded though.

I guess that's the problem with Sony not actually being a first-party producer and only having those second-party ones like Ratch & Clank that produce really sweet games.

It actually makes me surprised that Nintendo didn't preload the Wii with Mario 1, 2, 3, World, and 64 (and Sunshine lol). I miss having a real Mario game at the console's launch. I wonder if they could have come up with a novel way of using the Wii controller like ROB for Gyromite.

Hey psst it's me... has the open Home beta already taken place?

the open beta was always a rumor. I don't recall seeing an official announcement about an open beta...

Yes, it pretty much has started, more people have been getting invites. If you don't have it in your store, you haven't been selected (so it's not exactly 'open' beta, but yeah).

I don't have it in my PSN store, so that probably means I cannot participate :(

that's not the open beta, that's the closed beta that started like in may or something >.> an open beta is like when everyone can participate and not only on invite...

what musharraf is talking is that there were a rumor that after the closed beta there would be an open beta of Home in July ...

?

taken from Wikipedia:

"Release Date and Availability

Closed Beta (15,000 Users): May to Fall 2007

Open Beta (50,000 Users): A random day in July

Global Release Date: October 2007"

I just wondered whether that "RANDOM DAY IN JULY" was still ahead of us.

There won't be an open beta in which everyone can participate. >.> <.<

They say "50,000 users" in the Wikipedia article

edit_ here´s the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_Home

Yes I am aware of Wikipedia, but

50 000 is a number that is not equal with the total number of PlayStation 3 owners AKA everyone (it is smaller)

that's exactly why I said the open beta is a rumor >.>

an open beta is like when you can just register and you're automatically accepted and can play immediately, and a close beta is like when need to receive an invite to be able to play so the number of participants is restricted but I suppose you already knew all that >.>

Perhaps they mean "First 50000 get access to the beta" so it's not quite closed because anyone can get it, but it's not really open because not everyone can get it.